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Peter Burns accurately sums up the Orange Bowl this morning on X...
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:19 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:19 am
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Georgia destroying FSU was case study in culture
UGA had reason to be upset about playoff snub
Bulldogs locked in
Seminoles checked out
FSU's success was because of how well they hit the transfer portal
But transfers tend to be mercenaries who value self over team
It all comes down to culture. Kirby has instilled pride in his program where as Mike Norvell had to rely heavily on the transfer portal to jump start FSU's rebuild. I'm sure Norvell will eventually get things where they need to be but for now the Seminoles roster is just full of selfish players who have absolutely no loyalty to the team or the university.
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Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:24 am to RollTide1987
Its a reflection on the head coach and the culture he brings to the team. Much like last year when Bryce and Will played against K-State, Georgia felt they had something to prove. Yet again, compelling evidence that Kirby is
Saban 2.0 which should make Dawg fans pretty excited about the next 20 yrs or so.
Saban 2.0 which should make Dawg fans pretty excited about the next 20 yrs or so.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:27 am to RollTide1987
Those selfish players went undefeated.
Bama could not.
Bama could not.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:32 am to jangalang
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Those selfish players went undefeated.
They lost by 60 last night
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:32 am to jangalang
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Those selfish players went undefeated.
In the weak ACC....
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:42 am to RollTide1987
Disagree, this isn’t about culture but about getting fricked about as hard as a player could get fricked in life.
Regardless of your culture, if you went undefeated, won your championship game in what is supposed to be a major conference, beat 2 teams in the most difficult conference and then told you don’t even get a chance because your QB got hurt… even though Alabama won the damn thing just a couple years ago with a backup QB?
Ya, as a player I would be like frick all that bullshite too and not give a frick about the bowl game. I think it’s a testament to their coach that he was even able to get some players on to the field, I sure as frick would not have played.
Regardless of your culture, if you went undefeated, won your championship game in what is supposed to be a major conference, beat 2 teams in the most difficult conference and then told you don’t even get a chance because your QB got hurt… even though Alabama won the damn thing just a couple years ago with a backup QB?
Ya, as a player I would be like frick all that bullshite too and not give a frick about the bowl game. I think it’s a testament to their coach that he was even able to get some players on to the field, I sure as frick would not have played.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:52 am to Hellmet
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Alabama won the damn thing just a couple years ago with a backup QB
Surely you aren't really comparing Brock Glenn to Tua? Surely not?
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:55 am to samson73103
[quote]Seminoles roster is just full of selfish players who have absolutely no loyalty to the team or the university.[/quote
Peter Burns isn’t wrong but this a might standard to hold in current college football.
Peter Burns isn’t wrong but this a might standard to hold in current college football.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:56 am to RollTide1987
Norvell squandered a huge opportunity to build a great program at FSU by teaching those kids a huge lesson on commitment. Instead he chose to be weak and play the victim. I hope he never coaches another team after FSU. He is a terrible example of a coach.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:58 am to GooseSix
He blamed the committee last night said had they lost the conference title game, those players wouldn’t have opted out.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:05 am to FoTownBam
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They lost by 60 last night
The selfish players were not in the stadium.Hence selfish? Dense?
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:05 am to Hellmet
With even a close win vs UGA, the Noles could’ve shown they belonged and claimed a title. Hell, some organizations would probably have given them one. Those players knew they couldn’t compete, so they quit.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:06 am to jangalang
What’s worse is that his idiotic comment was liked by many morons who couldn’t put that together for themselves as well.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 8:07 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:10 am to jangalang
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Those selfish players went undefeated. Bama could not.
They went undefeated until a unified "football team" lined up on the other side of the football and took their asses to the wood shed.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:14 am to Hellmet
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Regardless of your culture, if you went undefeated, won your championship game in what is supposed to be a major conference, beat 2 teams in the most difficult conference and then told you don’t even get a chance because your QB got hurt… even though Alabama won the damn thing just a couple years ago with a backup QB?
Ya, as a player I would be like frick all that bullshite too and not give a frick about the bowl game.
So why didn't Auburn quit in 2004? They went undefeated in the toughest and deepest power conference, won the SEC Championship Game, and got left out of the national championship game in favor of USC and Oklahoma. Did any of them rage quit? No. They all showed up and beat Virginia Tech in the Sugar Bowl.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:18 am to RollTide1987
I am curious about the environment in that program. If I was one of the guys that played last night, I would seriously resent the opt out guys. Especially the ones who aren’t expected to be drafted highly.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:19 am to Crimson K
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With even a close win vs UGA, the Noles could’ve shown they belonged and claimed a title. Hell, some organizations would probably have given them one. Those players knew they couldn’t compete, so they quit.
Players have been opting out for years dude. It is a business decision post-irrelevance. FSU was not given the deserved opportunity to prove anything. Even if they did beat Georgia all they would receive is an "atta boii-our basketball team should be pretty good this year"
Bama faithful continuing to heehaww about these decisions do so only because deep down they know FSU was screwed, and they need more reason to justify the committee's decision.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:24 am to Hellmet
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Hellmet
Good thing you aren't a player except in your dreams.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:27 am to jangalang
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Players have been opting out for years dude. It is a business decision post-irrelevance.
Relatively few of the guys who opted out are projected to be drafted highly. A lot of them are basically just throwing a hissy fit and/or were just scared to be a part of a beatdown.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:28 am to FoTownBam
They didn’t lose. 30 of them weren’t playing. They were gone. Nice try though.
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