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re: On3 grades first year head coaches

Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Print the cups.


Alabama is use to not winning its own division.
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
7357 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Anybody else find it astonishing that Lincoln Riley is still recruiting like shite on the OL/DL?


He’s an offense first dude. Just need a stud qb and some skill players and he can outscore everybody. Tells his DC, just get me the ball back from opponents scoring or whatever and I’ll outscore any team.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61787 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:37 pm to
Not to defend an (alter, I think), but your program doesn’t have to win championships every year for you to have an opinion….and winning titles doesn’t necessarily make your opinion better or valid.
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3168 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Napier catching flack for inheriting a program in shambles, built by the biggest coaching fraud in CFB history is a bit of a problem for me.



Nah, D + is right on que. Way over his head. SEC aint the Sunbelt.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
28780 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:42 pm to
Kirby won the east his first year?
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40342 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:54 pm to
If Freeman is a B then Kelly is an A+.
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
1479 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:55 pm to
While 8-5 is not spectacular, it certainly beats the shite out of 6-7...
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
10215 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 1:59 pm to
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A- is extremely generous for a soon to be 5 loss team.


Sure - winning the SEC West in year 1 after 5-5 and 6-7 seasons and a roster lacking depth sucks.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
5850 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 2:05 pm to
Kirby didn’t receive an A- grade for his first year.
Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5624 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 2:19 pm to
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He’s an offense first dude. Just need a stud qb and some skill players and he can outscore everybody. Tells his DC, just get me the ball back from opponents scoring or whatever and I’ll outscore any team.

That works out for him about 9-10 times a year, which is good and all.

BUT about 2-3 times a year he plays teams that play tough, fundamental football with some dudes in the trenches and his team gets smacked in the mouth.

If he wants to win a championship he needs to at least attempt to get some guys that can blow people off the ball.
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
7117 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 2:51 pm to
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Florida is dumb for firing Mullen
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For this idiotic take alone, you should never be taken seriously.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24881 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:16 pm to
Grading at this point is just dumb. You need 3 years to make any determinations.

Look at Riley for example. He took a title ready team at OU and blew a sure win vs GA in Rose Bowl with stupid tactics. And got worse every year until he finally didn’t even win conference. And he stole CW to take with which is why they won so many thus year. He left the cupboard empty in way out.

Venables had to further scramble to save what he could of that class and lost both 5* qbs plus many others. He may have finished 6-6 but lost 3 games by 3 and 2 were B12 refs and one was unlucky bounce wlse its 9-3 and people look at them differently. But his 23 class is top 5 and it will take 2 more years to see what his culture and house cleaning does.

Every program with a first year HC took over different circumstances. You can’t grade any new HC until 3 years to see how their culture and recruits do. Venables systems are 180 from Riley and you have to use wrong type system players first amd second years. Some teams had some talent and only needed a qb or a few players to improve. Thats what Riley did at uscw. Opposite at OU where BV walked into declining players and then lost top takent during coaching search. But now has a top class to go into 23 with. Riley class is not top 10 amd CW is so good he makes any team get 3-4 more wins than they would without him. Last years OU team was a 6-6 team but CW got them 4 extra wins.

You have to look under the hood to see whats going on and these coach rankings are click bait in year 1.
Posted by weremoose
Member since Nov 2015
5141 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:19 pm to
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Napier catching flack


They regressed bigly, yo.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
34725 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:20 pm to
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Alabama is use to not winning its own division



Now I know the offices are in Birmingham and that the fragile LSU can’t handle this hence all the crazy conspiracy theories, but the SEC says Alabama won the west this year along with LSU.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43194 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:34 pm to
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Kirby lost to Vandy in year one on the way to 8-5, and you people wanted him strung up.


Can I see some receipts on this?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43194 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:35 pm to
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Florida is dumb for firing Mullen. For this idiotic take alone, you should never be taken seriously.


I’m amazed anyone takes that guy seriously
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38672 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:36 pm to
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On3, a fine reputable publication.


Are you being sarcastic, because On3 is about as legit as it gets in regards to college football.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
38672 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:38 pm to
Pretty spot on except Freeman deserves a C- at best. I’m also a Notre Dame fan and have been very disappointed in his hiring as head coach. Great defensive mi d, but not much else.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11193 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:38 pm to
The life of an alter internet troll is the saddest shite I’ve ever seen. Your life must be so incredibly pathetic Cajun Bama
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
3177 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:39 pm to
So Kelly is the 4th best new coach? Congrats I guess.
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