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re: Not trolling, Potential NO Votes?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:09 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:09 pm to The Sultan of Swine
Arkansas is a no vote. There are still a small handful of influential old hands involved with the program that remember the disease that is Texas.
Maybe the non-rooted AD and a cadre of actuaries will push for it, but it has to be a 90%+ no.
Maybe the non-rooted AD and a cadre of actuaries will push for it, but it has to be a 90%+ no.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:13 pm to BoardReader
I think Arkansas is a yes this time. They have for many years craved the big games with Texas of the past and they seem lost in the SEC.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:37 pm to dchog
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I think Arkansas is a yes this time. They have for many years craved the big games with Texas of the past and they seem lost in the SEC.
Arkansas actually seems to be turning things around lately with Pittman, but I would imagine the yes/no from Arkansas will depend on how many of your trustees remember the SWC days.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 8:58 pm to aggressor
I find it interesting how aggies are experts about OU. As someone who has been to OU games since 1959, I would advise you to let go of 77-0.
OU left the SWC, (as a founding member), to be part of forming what became the Big 8. Then they helped teams like Nebraska and sometimes schools like Missouri make a pretty highly respected conference. OU has enjoyed the RRR, and would hate to lose it. But, OU has never relyed on anyone else, including needing a scapegoat to focus for spewing venom about other teams
But, don't let facts get in your way of emotion.
OU left the SWC, (as a founding member), to be part of forming what became the Big 8. Then they helped teams like Nebraska and sometimes schools like Missouri make a pretty highly respected conference. OU has enjoyed the RRR, and would hate to lose it. But, OU has never relyed on anyone else, including needing a scapegoat to focus for spewing venom about other teams
But, don't let facts get in your way of emotion.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:13 pm to Diego Ricardo
I think it would be awesome and eliminates part of problem I see with the SEC with how it’s currently setup to where some teams don’t travel to other teams for many years. A conference should play each other a lot more then the current set up just from an outsider looking in. I think it strengthens the league top to bottom by playing each other on a more consistent basis.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:15 pm to BigBro
Getting rid of partial qualifiers is what killed Nebraska.. nothing else. Stop the lies already..
Every county and most cities had scholarships they gave to local athletes supporting them going to NE, when there were unlimited players on a team.
In addition, Nebraska was at the leading edge of PEDs. Elimating those two are the biggest reasons. Partial Qualifiers is #3
Every county and most cities had scholarships they gave to local athletes supporting them going to NE, when there were unlimited players on a team.
In addition, Nebraska was at the leading edge of PEDs. Elimating those two are the biggest reasons. Partial Qualifiers is #3
Posted on 7/22/21 at 9:25 pm to iamjethro
I am old enough to remember Arkansas in the SWC. The city I grew up in payed for all the Seniors of both schools to go to the Cotton Bowl. And I watched the pigs go silent when LSU beat them in the 66 game.
Texas has always controlled the refs until about 6 years ago. But, reality is Arkansas playing in Little Rock was considered a 7 point advantage to Arky, too. SWC official were as corrupt as any in the country.
Frank was a good guy and great coach. Darrell was a racist until the day he died. No texas coach runs the Football teams. The boosters control everything.
Texas can be a paper tiger, if someone has what it takes to stand up to them. No one in the SWC would. And early B12 was the same. Once Boren left OU, they have pretty well ignored Texas. But they don't have the juice they once had, if you stand up to them.
More and more of my texas graduate friends are like Stanford graduate fans. They are excited if they win, but if the don't . . . oh well. Texas has some internal problems that it is going to be interesting to see what happens this Fall. Some of their history, (Remember what I said about Darrell. I know guys who played golf with him after he retired), is causing a stir. Be interesting to see how that works out.
Texas has always controlled the refs until about 6 years ago. But, reality is Arkansas playing in Little Rock was considered a 7 point advantage to Arky, too. SWC official were as corrupt as any in the country.
Frank was a good guy and great coach. Darrell was a racist until the day he died. No texas coach runs the Football teams. The boosters control everything.
Texas can be a paper tiger, if someone has what it takes to stand up to them. No one in the SWC would. And early B12 was the same. Once Boren left OU, they have pretty well ignored Texas. But they don't have the juice they once had, if you stand up to them.
More and more of my texas graduate friends are like Stanford graduate fans. They are excited if they win, but if the don't . . . oh well. Texas has some internal problems that it is going to be interesting to see what happens this Fall. Some of their history, (Remember what I said about Darrell. I know guys who played golf with him after he retired), is causing a stir. Be interesting to see how that works out.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:30 pm to Old Sarge
Old Sarge, why do you think LSU would vote no? It’s clearly in our best interest. We have been trying to play the real Texas team forever
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:44 pm to aggressor
You aggies are so fricking clueless on the SEC, and bama power in College Football. And you have been here what 20 years. You got your first LSU win solely because Saban wanted it happen. The refs, the administration, the schedule makers, all bama people. The NCAA run by Saban buddy. 90% of NCAA recruiting rules are due to bama.
Texas can buy Bama 10 times before breakfast. People in bama have no clue how much money your school and alums have, it mind blowing. But that’s not football power.
Texas can buy Bama 10 times before breakfast. People in bama have no clue how much money your school and alums have, it mind blowing. But that’s not football power.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 10:56 pm to abellsujr
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Georgia fans just don’t want to lose their free ride to Atlanta almost every year.
I am amazed at how many don't want any part of bama in the regular season.
Auburn fans want both to be moved to the east so we can play bama, uga and uf every year.
frick this pod system BS. That will do nothing but penalize the two teams who make the SECCG.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 11:02 pm to AggnHou
A&M is the only one who would vote “No”. All others would vote yes. Money is a hell of a drug after a pandemic. Clemson and FSU are not coming to SEC ever. Why would they? The ACC is respected in all sports. Reason OU and Texas want to leave is the Big 12 has no market value in any sport. Football is the money maker and their TV contracts suck compared to other conferences. They don’t have a conference network package.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 11:03 pm to Old Sarge
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quote:LSU's voting Yes. Book it.
LSU will vote no, this is not in their best interest long-term at all
Posted on 7/23/21 at 12:32 am to Texaggie96
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One thing that's going to have to be considered. The ACC 4 Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, and Florida will lose their veto power over their in state ACC brethren joining the second Texas and Oklahoma join. The required votes to block a member will go from 4 to 5.
Well, if any of those four schools voted YES on Texas against the wishes of A&M that they not allow a second state school in the SEC, then the "ACC 4" would then be saying they clearly don't mind numerous schools from the same state. If A&M wants them to vote NO for the same reason, then they have to abstain, vote no, or STFU.
No Texas in the SEC!
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:38 am to ATCTx
ESPN will vote Ye$$$$; and therefore, most of the SEC will vote yes besides A&M...
They will vote yes to keep 2 very lucrative, marketable prograns away from the BIG conference.
They will vote yes to keep 2 very lucrative, marketable prograns away from the BIG conference.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:52 am to abellsujr
Dudd I am so rich I spent millions gambling...yes I am homeless
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:54 am to AggnHou
Bama’s gotta be up there…don’t want to risk the cupcake schedule
Posted on 7/23/21 at 4:16 am to AggnHou
quote:If we go to 16 teams and stop there, it's not a problem. If not 16, then the numbers are not going to be viable to even have individual conferences. The "one" conference that would happen would be no more than a group of independents seeking a massive television contract that will be equally shared by all. There is no real advantage to any school in that situation.
3. South Carolina - __% Would they want Clemson in SEC, maybe the align with A&M and vote no as a favor to keep Clemson out in the future?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 4:54 am to jumpstart
I truly don’t understand what is in it for the Mississippi schools and Arkansas. There’s no way they can compete recruiting wise with the new blood. Why weaken your recruiting pitch by increasing the number of SEC teams. Unless this is just is just about a few extra bucks then carry on.
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