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re: Nick Saban to help groom minority coaches for head coaching gigs
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:15 am to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:15 am to SidewalkTiger
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I've watched a lot of football and I've never heard anything like you described.
Of course, I'm not looking to make everything racially motivated either
You must watch every CFB Game with the volume on both the TV & the Radio turned down
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:20 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:Ok?
I dont think there have been thousands
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:21 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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You must watch every CFB Game with the volume on both the TV & the Radio turned down
Nah.
From previous statements you've made I dont think you watch college football at all.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:22 am to PeeJayScammedGT
You are so right. Black head coaches are just naturally better than other coaches and all these multimillion dollar football programs are just intentionally choosing inferior coaches because they want to lose games and have no motivation to hire coaches who will win. I can’t believe these racists are intentionally losing to avoid hiring black head coaches.
This post was edited on 8/7/20 at 8:24 am
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:30 am to Drizzt
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You are so right. Black head coaches are just naturally better than other coaches and all these multimillion dollar football programs are just intentionally choosing inferior coaches because they want to lose games and have no motivation to hire coaches who will win. I can’t believe these racists are intentionally losing to avoid hiring black head coaches.
Especially when the majority of people who run universities are liberal
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:38 am to RollTide1987
Yes, because color of skin should be considered first in any job. (Sarcasm)
These types of programs send the wrong message in my opinion...we'll never move closer to MLK's dream.
These types of programs send the wrong message in my opinion...we'll never move closer to MLK's dream.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:40 am to SidewalkTiger
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Being a good player isn't directly congruent with being a good coach.
Is the same true for Marketing, I'm sure there are tons of Community College Grads just waiting to "coach Teams made up of Ivy League MBAs" ---- people that are better than them at Marketing, but need to be "coached" by the guy the that isn't as good at Marketing as the Ivy League MBA?
Am I being unfair, that is how your logic works right?
There's is no magical playbook in the game of FB, the Team with the better players that makes the fewest mistakes that day usually wins
Amazing how Belichick's genius coincided with him having a HoF QB, before Brady why didn't his genius play calling and studious nature produce that same results
To quote a former NFL HC, "there are no geniuses in the Coaching Business, you have a bunch of PE Majors coaching other PE Majors"
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:45 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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Is the same true for Marketing, I'm sure there are tons of Community College Grads just waiting to "coach Teams made up of Ivy League MBAs" ---- people that are better than them at Marketing, but need to be "coached" by the guy the that isn't as good at Marketing as the Ivy League MBA?
Am I being unfair, that is how your logic works right?
There's is no magical playbook in the game of FB, the Team with the better players that makes the fewest mistakes that day usually wins
Amazing how Belichick's genius coincided with him having a HoF QB, before Brady why didn't his genius play calling and studious nature produce that same results
To quote a former NFL HC, "there are no geniuses in the Coaching Business, you have a bunch of PE Majors coaching other PE Majors"
Pure mental retardation and Internet diarrhea.
Per usual.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 8:47 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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Correct it does not GUARANTEE that, but I find it amazing that every white backup has "intangibles" and is a gym rat, and is a "student of the Game" and talked strategy & playcalls with his HS Coach Dad over every meal, and that's why they make great HCs but with all the Black back ups, none of the above is true, and none of the above is ever spouted by the Media & broadcasters
The black backups are too busy talking about rims.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:10 am to DatWood
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who's arguing racism over a 1% disrepancy? No one is comparing 13 to 12.
That's the point. I'm questioning the premise that the only metric we should ever compare is % of black players to % of black coaches. It assumes that all players regardless of race are equally likely to pursue a career in football coaching. Has this been proven? Also, some coaches did not play past high school, or did not play at all (Mike Leach). That group would draw from the general population (13% black).
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Are you arguing that the league is racist towards white people/other races and chooses to employ black people, assuming they're the better player?
I'm simply asking: if a person truly believes blacks are missing out on coaching opportunities based on the numbers, why don't they believe whites are missing out on playing opportunities based on the numbers? How can we just casually say "well, blacks are better players" but never say the opposite about coaches?
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:15 am to PeeJayScammedGT
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The 68% is what happens when you have an almost perfectly level playing field, and pure meritocracy takes over
Imagine if we had a pure meritocracy in all major Institutions here in America
Are you implying that blacks a naturally superior race? Seems pretty, what's the word, racist to me.
Also, I love the logic that whites in power are somehow racist enough to deny black coaches opportunities, but still award billions in black player scholarships and black professional playing contracts every year.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:27 am to RollTide1987
LSU is looking out for the Cajun minority.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:35 am to bogeypro
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These types of programs send the wrong message in my opinion...we'll never move closer to MLK's dream.
Actually , we'll never move closer to MLK's dream until the Majority Group in America believes in his dream, forget that, first the Majority Group in America needs to apply the Constitution equally to all Citizens
When MLK was alive, he was hated by whites, and now that he's dead "we need to get closer to his dream"
You're pissed that these Programs exist, maybe if the Majority Group didn't have the 400 year track record that they have, then these Programs wouldn't be necessary
If these Programs send the wrong message in your opinion, what messages do the confederate monuments send?
I know I know, different topic
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:55 am to RollTide1987
Coach Saban is a righteous awesome human being. The lessons you learn as child running up a hill at dusk at the end of bantam football practice and returning with a leaf are lessons you live with for the rest of your life.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 9:58 am to RidiculousHype
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How can we just casually say "well, blacks are better players" but never say the opposite about coaches?
For starters, you can't just say that casually. No ESPN reporter has even parapharased a sentiment like that without being fired. Bill Burr's got a funny skit on that. Now about coaching...........dude the first black HC in the SEC was in 2004. 2004. Imma repeat that one more time now. 2004. There is historically and currently, an undeniable bias against black coaches. That's reality. Comparing it to the general population make no sense. Former NFL players are more qualified for coaching positions than 99.999% of people who played only up to high school. You can't convince me otherwise. If anything, compare coaching percentages, to the overall racial makeup of college football juco-D1. That would be the best group to use.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:17 am to Drizzt
Yet, had we lost 8 in a row to
LSU, as they did to Bama, that's
ALL we'd be hearing. Amiright?
Course I am.
LSU, as they did to Bama, that's
ALL we'd be hearing. Amiright?
Course I am.
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:20 am to pvilleguru
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This isn't hard. When 13% of the population gets 70% of the playing time at the major college and professional level, and still can't get more than 13% of the head coaching positions, people are going to ask why.
It isn't hard saying that this particular 13% of the population excels at something, but it is damned near impossible to say that this same 13% may be less inclined at something else?
Posted on 8/7/20 at 10:38 am to bigDgator
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It isn't hard saying that this particular 13% of the population excels at something, but it is damned near impossible to say that this same 13% may be less inclined at something else?
I don't think that is hard to say but I believe the aspects of being a player and being a coach are connected enough that the number should be higher.
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