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re: Nick Saban to help groom minority coaches for head coaching gigs

Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52472 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:07 pm to
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Look at :

JJ Watt & his brother

Kittle

The Bosa Brothers

Christian McCaffrey

And others


There are always outliers to any general statement.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90552 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

there are only three Black head coaches among the NFL's 32 teams and just 14 Black head coaches among college's 130 Football Bowl Subdivision squads.


13% of the population.

9% of NFL HC
11% of college jobs.

Seems pretty in line. I don’t know why people think 13% of the population should hold the majority of top positions in any industry. Just hire the most qualified and it will work itself out
Posted by Hogfan13
Member since Jul 2019
2947 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:30 pm to
AKA Statistical Outliers.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41256 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:30 pm to
I wouldn't hire a liberal for anything.

Well maybe if I needed a painter.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 3:31 pm
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10196 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:31 pm to
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Make white kids play baseball less? idk what else to say. It's not like they're passing over better white people to let black players play. Can't say the same about society at large, which is where I imagine you were going with that point.

I'm asking why in this scenario:
13% population
68% players
12% coaches

Is the 12 considered the problem, and not the 68? Seems the 68 is the number that's way out of whack.

Is your answer really that the 13/12 discrepancy is racism but the 13/68 discrepancy is just the way the cookie crumbles?
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4368 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:36 pm to
Who is starting the Coalition for white cornerbacks?


Talk about lack of upward mobility
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Make white kids play baseball less? idk what else to say. It's not like they're passing over better white people to let black players play.

You think there hasn't been a single white cornerback capable of playing in big time CFB or the NFL in the last two decades? Might have a point about participation rates though
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29048 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:00 pm to
To hell with qualifications. Black? You’re in.
Posted by Blind Zebras
We comin
Member since Aug 2016
1044 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:27 pm to
How can one race be such victim mentality pussies. It’s so annoying. You fricks have the same opportunities as everyone else. It’s 2020
Posted by DatWood
DFW
Member since Jun 2020
247 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:46 pm to
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I don't think Drunktitz played college ball.

It would be incredible if he could teach technique or form of any kind. It's amazing he even got the App State players respect. I see it going real, real bad for Mizzou with him. Chad Morris level bad.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 4:49 pm
Posted by DatWood
DFW
Member since Jun 2020
247 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:48 pm to
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You think there hasn't been a single white cornerback capable of playing in big time CFB or the NFL in the last two decades?

Nope. The ones who could choose to play another position or a different sport entirely.
Posted by DatWood
DFW
Member since Jun 2020
247 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:52 pm to
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Is your answer really that the 13/12 discrepancy is racism
who's arguing racism over a 1% disrepancy? No one is comparing 13 to 12. The racism is about % of black players in the league vs % of black coaches. If you think that's dumb well there's not much I can do for you, because you decided "frick that" to logic.
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Seems the 68 is the number that's way out of whack.


Are you arguing that the league is racist towards white people/other races and chooses to employ black people, assuming they're the better player? Cause that's some ridiculous shite right there.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 4:55 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 4:54 pm to
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Is the 12 considered the problem, and not the 68? Seems the 68 is the number that's way out of whack.

The 68% is what happens when you have an almost perfectly level playing field, and pure meritocracy takes over

Imagine if we had a pure meritocracy in all major Institutions here in America
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52472 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 5:10 pm to
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Imagine if we had a pure meritocracy in all major Institutions here in America


Where is there not?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50392 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 5:13 pm to
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Imagine if we had a pure meritocracy in all major Institutions here in America


This is an argument against forcing more black head coaches.
Posted by InGAButLoveBama
Member since Jan 2018
924 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 5:16 pm to
OK, but can we have some outreach to attract more White players? Why aren't we as concerned with the extreme under-representation of White players on SEC teams?

Personally, I am fine with the teams being majority Black, and I am ok with the coaches being majority White. Just maybe there are different avg skill sets across races.
This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 5:18 pm
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 5:53 pm to
Nick Saban has been on a roll trolling the overly sensitive racists recently.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 6:00 pm to
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Who is starting the Coalition for white cornerbacks?


Talk about lack of upward mobility

White cornerbacks get a much more level playing field to move up to highest levels of FB than do Coaching candidates, no one suspects a white CB of having any flaws until he puts his flaws on film

Minority coaching candidates don't quite get the same treatment because the hiring process is usually shrouded in secrecy
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 6:07 pm to
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Nick Saban has been on a roll trolling the overly sensitive racists recently.

Saban should just come out and let it fly, Saban should just say, donate all you want, buy season Tix and access to luxury boxes, but since none of your Sons run the forty in 4.4 seconds , I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing

Then of course Saban could just be a man with a pure heart that is doing this because it is the right thing to do, sometimes aging brings about a certain amount of reflection
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52472 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

White cornerbacks get a much more level playing field to move up to highest levels of FB than do Coaching candidates, no one suspects a white CB of having any flaws until he puts his flaws on film

Minority coaching candidates don't quite get the same treatment because the hiring process is usually shrouded in secrecy

I just want to win, I dont give a damn what color anyone is.
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