re: Nick Saban to help groom minority coaches for head coaching gigs

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I dont think there have been thousands

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I'm not saying this is actually what has happened, but here's some simple numbers.

Let's say there are 100 FBS teams. If an average of one player from every graduating class from every school eventually goes into coaching (either at the HS/NCAA/NFL level), after 40 years you would have 4,000 coaches. I don't think that's an outrageous number.

UA alone has 4 black assistant coaches that played in college (played at Hampton, McMurry, New Mexico, and Alabama).

LSU has 3 black assistant coaches that played in college. That's 7 coaches at just 2 schools.

Auburn has 7 black assistant coaches that played in college.

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horseshite! I'm Bama and I love Nick Saban, but that man does nothing from a pure heart or unselfish reasons.

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I don’t know. What was the motive to donate the money to keep Space Camp open in Huntsville?

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horseshite! I'm Bama and I love Nick Saban, but that man does nothing from a pure heart or unselfish reasons.

He's a jackass at his core and he works relentlessly to give himself and his program an advantage. This bullshite minority coaching gig is his attempt to reach a broader coaching base and to give him racial points in a recruits living room.

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Well, good for Saban to be smart enough to get the two-fer, better Recruiting for him and those Black families that are lucky enough to have their child in consideration for a Bama scholly and creating more exposure so that Minorities that give so much to the Sport on the Field can also give to the Sport off the Field as Coaches

The fair minded people see this as creating more exposure for those that "might not" get the exposure to further their career in coaching, the closed minded people see this as an attempt to give unqualified Blacks an easy way to take a job from a more qualified white male, cause the white male is under constant attack from the "evil libruls", that's why we need Trumpf in Office, we need him to look out for us white males under siege

That 2nd paragraph wasn't for you Sir, it was for a certain Ellis Shue Fan that I've knocked heads with a few times

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The fair minded people see this as creating more exposure for those that "might not" get the exposure to further their career in coaching, the closed minded people see this as an attempt to give unqualified Blacks an easy way to take a job from a more qualified white male, cause the white male is under constant attack from the "evil libruls", that's why we need Trumpf in Office, we need him to look out for us white males under siege

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I have no problem if people want to help other people get better and have more opportunities.

However, if you can't admit that white males are the one and only group that are systemically discriminated against in America today, then you're simply being dishonest with yourself.

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I have no problem if people want to help other people get better and have more opportunities.

However, if you can't admit that white males are the one and only group that are systemically discriminated against in America today, then you're simply being dishonest with yourself.

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Right on cue

No , the white male isn't systematically discriminated against, look no further than the incompetent boob that currently occupies the WH and runs and hides in the Bunker when PEACEFUL PROTESTERS gather outside the WH, that idiot's performance as Prez with no skillset for the Job is an embarrassment to all Americans

I cringe every time the Bunker Bitch has to make a Speech or speak in Public

Sorry pal, white males aren't discriminated against in America

A year or two under Saban can get anyone a head coaching job. Except Butch Jones. No one can fix that.

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For starters, you can't just say that casually. No ESPN reporter has even parapharased a sentiment like that without being fired.

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I'm not saying the media says it, I'm saying it's been said in this thread.

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dude the first black HC in the SEC was in 2004. 2004. Imma repeat that one more time now. 2004.

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And Locksley himself said that it's no easier for a black man to get major HC job now than it was 25 years ago. But consider that these schools have hired black HCs since 2000:

Notre Dame
Texas
Texas A&M
Florida State
Oregon
Washington
Stanford
Penn State
Michigan State
Arizona State
Arizona
Colorado
Maryland
Syracuse
Mississippi State
Louisville
Vanderbilt
South Florida
East Carolina
Houston
UTSA

And on and on. How can you look at that list of programs and seriously tell me black candidates aren't getting a shot?

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There is historically and currently, an undeniable bias against black coaches. That's reality.

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Again, historically and currently are two completely different things.

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Comparing it to the general population make no sense.

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I'm not saying use general pop as the only metric, but it's worth factoring in because some coaches didn't play past HS, or at all.

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Former NFL players are more qualified for coaching positions than 99.999% of people who played only up to high school.

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1) Great players don't always make great coaches, although I agree that playing experience at a high level is widely considered preferable
2) Not every former NFL player goes into coaching

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If anything, compare coaching percentages, to the overall racial makeup of college football juco-D1. That would be the best group to use.

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I was just looking at that myself. LINK LINK In 2019, across all NCAA (div I-III), 39% of players were black and 12% of HCs were black. In 1999, the first year the NCAA did the study, 28% of players were black. This is the better # to use, since current HC coaches were players many years ago.

What I'd like to know is how likely black players are to get into coaching compared to other groups. And if they do get into coaching, are they more/less likely to stick with it for 10-20-30 years, which is required for a HC resume.

Bryant tried to be the first in the early 1950s at Kentucky. That’s what most people get confused about when discussing the integration of the SEC.

People also seem to forget that Wilbur Jackson and John Mitchell were not the first black players on the Alabama roster. Just the first on scholarship. There’s a lot of mythology around that time period and subject.

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Right on cue

No , the white male isn't systematically discriminated against, look no further than the incompetent boob that currently occupies the WH and runs and hides in the Bunker when PEACEFUL PROTESTERS gather outside the WH, that idiot's performance as Prez with no skillset for the Job is an embarrassment to all Americans

I cringe every time the Bunker Bitch has to make a Speech or speak in Public

Sorry pal, white males aren't discriminated against in America

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I can honestly say I once didn't get a job because I was white. I had previous experience, a military background and the person they hired I don't think he ever had a job. Not in the years I knew him anyway.

He got the job because he was black. The company had 0 black people, as the town I lived in only had 2 black people in it. So they had no choice but to hire him instead of me because of it.

He was one of my best friends and was living with me, so I was glad he got the job.

I was 100% systematically discriminated against based on my race.

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I can honestly say I once didn't get a job because I was white.

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Same.

People like PeeJay cant accept that it happens though, it goes against their narrative.