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re: Josh Pate talks about how college football will be unrecognizable in 5-10 years
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:36 am to Byrdybyrd05
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:36 am to Byrdybyrd05
It's not entirely clear what College Football will look like in 5-10 years, but it will have definitely changed and could become something I will lose interest in because of the "free agent" component that comes with the transfer portal among others issues I see, but we shall see.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:36 am to RollTide1987
quote:he says, on a college football message board.
I am nowhere near as excited about the impending college football season as I have been in years past. I used to watch multiple games every Saturday but now tend to only tune in to the Alabama game. And even that I don't get as much joy out of as I used to.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:56 am to DaWGfan01
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Of course a player has to attend classes (and pass), otherwise they will not be able to play on Saturdays and improve their draft stock for the league.
Every SEC school has a useless major (used to be PE) that any athlete can take and stay eligible. Serious athletes can still get good degrees, but those that don't want to or are not college material can still get by. Vandy is probably the only exception to this.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:56 am to madddoggydawg
I am always excited when CFB season starts, even when my DaWGs we're having a few lean years.
Is CFB changing?, of course, maybe I am just an optimist but I think it will be just fine if the tweak some of the rules regarding NIL and the transfer portal..
Is CFB changing?, of course, maybe I am just an optimist but I think it will be just fine if the tweak some of the rules regarding NIL and the transfer portal..
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:06 am to DaWGfan01
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Players have a right to earn money off their name image likeness, and that's just the way it is in today's CFB landscape, if you don't like it, choose another sport to get into, or am NFL team to cheer for.
I think most people are ok with this. The collectives that are gathering money to entice recruits by guaranteeing money in exchange for their attending X University is the thing that I think most people don't care for.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:07 am to WG_Dawg
Reading this thread has me feeling disappointed in what CFB has transitioned into. You and RollTide1987 nailed it.
You should have to sit some time if you transfer, no immediate eligibility.
NIL also has too many hands involved. You should be able to sell a signed jersey like AJ Green did, or other related things like that (maybe some type of royalty). But making deals like $50k for each player on the OL shouldn’t be allowed.
The monkey is out of the bottle. It’s going to be very difficult to fix.

You should have to sit some time if you transfer, no immediate eligibility.
NIL also has too many hands involved. You should be able to sell a signed jersey like AJ Green did, or other related things like that (maybe some type of royalty). But making deals like $50k for each player on the OL shouldn’t be allowed.
The monkey is out of the bottle. It’s going to be very difficult to fix.

Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:18 am to GaTiger27
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The monkey is out of the bottle. It’s going to be very difficult to fix.
1. No more lowering admissions standards for athletes. This is where I would start.
2. Eliminate the transfer portal and go back to the sit out a year rule.
College football needs to actually be college football again, not just 100 hired guns who don't care who they're playing for.
I've said numerous times that SEC stadiums would still sell out and the atmospheres wouldn't change if every team in the conference looked like Mount Union. I have lost a lot of my enthusiasm for college football over the last 10 years or so, and I was someone who wouldn't move from the couch from time Gameday came on air until the Hawaii game ended at 3am. It just isn't the same and it doesn't mean as much to me as it used to.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:24 am to Byrdybyrd05
Yep and it’s a mistake. Instead of educating the 99% of these poor kids that’ll never go pro, we’re going to give them cash that they will burn through in no time.
Unintended consequences. Just like black murders have increased significantly since the BLM scam.
Unintended consequences. Just like black murders have increased significantly since the BLM scam.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:35 am to Bham Bammer
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I think most people are ok with this. The collectives that are gathering money to entice recruits by guaranteeing money in exchange for their attending X University is the thing that I think most people don't care for.
Exactly. When this first came up it was proposed that athletes would be getting like maybe a few hundred dollars or something for endorsing the local BBQ joint. Of course since there were no rules it has morphed into something completely different.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:38 am to Byrdybyrd05
It’s going to be funny when teams that never won a championship like TExas A&M finally win. No one will care because they couldn’t do it the right way for 60 plus years.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:47 am to VADawg
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College football needs to actually be college football again, not just 100 hired guns who don't care who they're playing for.
This is the most troubling aspect. As an OU fan it just seems strange that a guy who is probably now the most legendary OU player in the history OU/Texas game bails on you after having been the hero in a game like that. This would have been unthinkable just a few years ago.
An earlier post talked about what it was like 40 years ago. I remember the 1978 National Champion Alabama team having nine offensive starters from the state of Alabama and the entire backfield was from Birmingham.
Hired guns is a pretty apt description of what we are having now. And we already have the NFL for that.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:23 am to geauxbrown
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My only issue with NIL is the transfer portal. They need to clean that up.
This.
Though all of these changes happened practically all at once (within a 1-5 year window). It'll be chaotic at first and then eventually settle down.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:25 am to Partha
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all of these changes happened practically all at once (within a 1-5 year window). It'll be chaotic at first and then eventually settle down.
but it's not gonna settle down until rules are changed. Just because the novelty wears off and it isn't "new" anymore doesn't mean thousands of people aren't going to transfer every year because they aren't getting playign time.
There should be a 100% stone cold mandatory 1-year sit out policy. No exceptions.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:52 am to WG_Dawg
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but it's not gonna settle down until rules are changed.
Good point. I had that in the back of my mind while posting, but forget to add it to that comment.
I do think rules and regulations will be (and as you stated, will have to be) implemented.
It won't happen all at once, but as situations arise.
That's why I believe the first 5 years or so will be total chaos.
Rules will likely start being put in place in the 5-10 year period.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 11:54 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 12:10 pm to WG_Dawg
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says who? It is most certainly not a right.
Keg-stand Kavanaugh for one:
"The NCAA acknowledges that it controls the market for college athletes. The NCAA concedes that its compensation rules set the price of student athlete labor at a below-market rate. And the NCAA recognizes that student athletes currently have no meaningful ability to negotiate with the NCAA over the compensation rules.
The NCAA nonetheless asserts that its compensation rules are procompetitive because those rules help define the product of college sports. Specifically, the NCAA says that colleges may decline to pay student athletes because the defining feature of college sports, according to the NCAA, is that the student athletes are not paid.
In my view, that argument is circular and unpersuasive. The NCAA couches its arguments for not paying student athletes in innocuous labels. But the labels cannot disguise the reality: The NCAA’s business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America. All of the restaurants in a region cannot come together to cut cooks’ wages on the theory that “customers prefer” to eat food from low-paid cooks. Law firms cannot conspire to cabin lawyers’ salaries in the name of providing legal services out of a “love of the law.” Hospitals cannot agree to cap nurses’ income in order to create a “purer” form of helping the sick. News organizations cannot join forces to curtail pay to reporters to preserve a “tradition” of public-minded journalism. Movie studios cannot collude to slash benefits to camera crews to kindle a “spirit of amateurism” in Hollywood.
Price-fixing labor is price-fixing labor. And price-fixing labor is ordinarily a textbook antitrust problem because it extinguishes the free market in which individuals can otherwise obtain fair compensation for their work. See, e.g., Texaco Inc. v. Dagher, 547 U. S. 1, 5 (2006). Businesses like the NCAA cannot avoid the consequences of price-fixing labor by incorporating price-fixed labor into the definition of the product. Or to put it in more doctrinal terms, a monopsony cannot launder its price-fixing of labor by calling it product definition."
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:32 pm to Byrdybyrd05
It's been unrecognizable for 8 years now
Posted on 4/27/22 at 10:47 pm to DaWGfan01
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I do believe some regulation needs to happen as to giving HIGH SCHOOL players $ to attend your college, as seen with A&M this past recruiting class. I don't know how they are going to do that but they will hopefully find a way.
Nothing about Georgia paying players too. Why Georgia gets to have top 3 classes yearly and Texas A&M doesn't?
Posted on 4/27/22 at 11:58 pm to Blackgloves
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Overly dramatic. He needs a tampon
Wait and see, moron.
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:29 am to Byrdybyrd05
A lot of people aren’t focused on the most important part of Pate’s point here.
The biggest issue facing CFB isn’t NIL or the transfer portal, but rather a lack of leadership in determining how all of this will be legislated. The NCAA has flat quit, and they were never good when they still had hands on the wheel.
There has to be an oversight committee that can set some rules in place, otherwise you will end up with the two-tiered system that he talked about. NIL isn’t the devil for CFB right now. Lack of uniform regulation, or really any regulation at all is. CFB is, for all intents and purposes, operating separately from the NCAA as we speak, but there isn’t a replacement yet.
The structure of the sport will fall apart if that doesn’t get fixed and that will eventually make the sport unrecognizable and drive people away way faster than NIL or the transfer portal.
The biggest issue facing CFB isn’t NIL or the transfer portal, but rather a lack of leadership in determining how all of this will be legislated. The NCAA has flat quit, and they were never good when they still had hands on the wheel.
There has to be an oversight committee that can set some rules in place, otherwise you will end up with the two-tiered system that he talked about. NIL isn’t the devil for CFB right now. Lack of uniform regulation, or really any regulation at all is. CFB is, for all intents and purposes, operating separately from the NCAA as we speak, but there isn’t a replacement yet.
The structure of the sport will fall apart if that doesn’t get fixed and that will eventually make the sport unrecognizable and drive people away way faster than NIL or the transfer portal.
This post was edited on 4/28/22 at 5:31 am
Posted on 4/28/22 at 5:53 am to C W
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If it comes to what programs can buy the most best players Georgia will just be another also ran
And this was an edit?

No idea what you mean by this.UGA athletics is probably the most financially stable in the SEC especially coming off the 2020 covid season followed by a NC season.
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