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re: Josh Pate talks about how college football will be unrecognizable in 5-10 years
Posted on 4/27/22 at 7:38 am to DaWGfan01
Posted on 4/27/22 at 7:38 am to DaWGfan01
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Everybody and their "sky is falling" rhetoric about college football makes me chuckle.
The sky isn't falling. It just isn't the same product. The players have too much control and you end up with dumb arse shite like Ben Simmons.
And frick Curt Flood while I am at it.
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Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:24 am to Byrdybyrd05
With the transfer portal and NIL, College Football has migrated to an NFL Free Agent format. For better or worse, that's the world we live in. The NCAA has traveled too far down this path to turn around, in my opinion.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:32 am to DaWGfan01
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Players have a right to earn money
says who? It is most certainly not a right.
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if you don't like it, choose another sport to get into, or am NFL team to cheer for.
do you not realize that one of the main reasons people prefer cfb over NFL is BECAUSE cfb didn't have corporate shite like this going on? Why the frick would someone all of a sudden become an NFL fan because they are unhappy that college is becoming more NFL-like?
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:35 am to Byrdybyrd05
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There is no turning back…
Disagree
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:37 am to Byrdybyrd05
Vs an unregulated Mexican cartel? NIL is better than Alabama handing out free Chargers while that kid at UCF is banned for a YouTube channel
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:39 am to AUCE05
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Alabama handed out Chargers
My only issue with NIL is the transfer portal. They need to clean that up. Schools are actively recruiting kids while playing at another school.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:42 am to geauxbrown
Not really. Every other team sport has had the same system for years. The NCAA can't tell gymnastics players they can transfer and not football players. And until you check coaches from doing the same thing, you have to give individual players an option to leave as well.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:47 am to lsudat10
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Schools need to stop labeling sports as extracurricular activities, and just make them degree programs in and of themselves. Instead of saying I played football in college say, “I majored in football in college. Didn’t play professionally, but hey, I have that degree!”
You've almost got it.
There are many legitimate professions spawned from football. Playing professionally, coaching, training, administration, etc. Many of these are more lucrative than other degree programs, particularly the trendy "x" studies sociology tracks that rack up huge student debt and deliver worthless degrees.
Some athletes will pursue other tracks like business, the STEM, fields, etc., but let's recognize reality and create true educational tracks for NFL development, coaching, and other specialized fields that arise from the sport.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:47 am to geauxbrown
There definitely needs to be some better rules regarding NIL and the portal.
I'm of the opinion that there will be some rules put in place within the next 2-3 years that will even out the playing field for all CFB teams that have great coaching and recruiting to vie for spots in the CFB Playoffs.
I'm of the opinion that there will be some rules put in place within the next 2-3 years that will even out the playing field for all CFB teams that have great coaching and recruiting to vie for spots in the CFB Playoffs.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 8:59 am to DaWGfan01
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As stated above as long as the NFL keeps is 3 years removed from high school policy, CFB will be fine.
Getting rid of that rule could actually save college football.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:14 am to Byrdybyrd05
College football has always been unrecognizable from what it was before. It’s arguably the most constantly evolving sport consumed in North America.
Whether it’s integration (60s-70s), tv rights (80s-90s), west coast offense/air raid offense (90s-2000s), million dollar coaching contracts (2000-2010s), facilities arms race (1990s-present), SEC Network (2010s), Conference Championship games (1990s), conference expansion/realignment (pick a decade), streaming services (2010s-present), bowl system (70s-90s), BCS (90s-2010s), CFP (2010s-present)…
I didn’t even break down all the rules changes including introduction of the forward pass, targeting, etc
Whether it’s integration (60s-70s), tv rights (80s-90s), west coast offense/air raid offense (90s-2000s), million dollar coaching contracts (2000-2010s), facilities arms race (1990s-present), SEC Network (2010s), Conference Championship games (1990s), conference expansion/realignment (pick a decade), streaming services (2010s-present), bowl system (70s-90s), BCS (90s-2010s), CFP (2010s-present)…
I didn’t even break down all the rules changes including introduction of the forward pass, targeting, etc
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 9:16 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:17 am to tylerdurden24
Most of what you listed doesn't fundamentally change the way the overall sport operates though. It affects recruiting, and viewership, and money, and in-game strategy, but not the actual sport. Allowing unimpeded transfers on a whim for whatever reason you choose and openly paying anyone an unlimited amount of money completely changes college football.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:18 am to WG_Dawg
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doesn't fundamentally change the way the overall sport operates though.
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It affects recruiting, and viewership, and money, and in-game strategy
Bro, wut?
And to be clear, my point is that the sport is constantly changing. It never stops changing. And people never stop wringing their hands over the changes and longing for the “good OL days”. Romanticism is baked into the experience.
This post was edited on 4/27/22 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:19 am to j1897
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Getting rid of that rule could actually save college football.
If you think allowing 18 year old high schoolers to skip college entirely is good for college football I don't know what to tell ya. There's been maaaaaaybe 10 people in the last 50 years that could have done that and not been a totla embarrassment, and 10 is probably very generous.
If the rule was repealed you would have a frick ton of kids do it since they're delusional idiots and they would either 1)not make a team then basically have to enroll in college but not be able to play football, so basiclaly their lives are totally fricked, or 2)they would make a team and get absolutely demolished
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:24 am to RollTide1987
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I used to watch multiple games every Saturday but now tend to only tune in to the Alabama game. And even that I don't get as much joy out of as I used to.
That's because y'all always win.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:29 am to Byrdybyrd05
Hell it won’t take that long. It’s already well on its way.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:32 am to Billy Blanks
I'm curious why some of you watch college football at all.
If you care who plays for YOUR team or how much money they might be making or where they played last year then I'm not sure you will ever find joy in the sport.
After suffering through the early aughts with Bama football I can honestly say that I get just as excited now as in the 90s or early 2000s, and it is 100% because it is Alabama football.
Your fandom should be based on the front of the jersey, not the back. It seems a bit ridiculous to suggest that fans should or will stop rooting because their team can't "compete" to win championships in the changing climate - certain teams have always been at the top and certain teams have always been at the bottom and there is always one or two teams that surprise for a year or two. Until one team starts buying the championship year in and year out these hot takes about college football are just silly.
If you care who plays for YOUR team or how much money they might be making or where they played last year then I'm not sure you will ever find joy in the sport.
After suffering through the early aughts with Bama football I can honestly say that I get just as excited now as in the 90s or early 2000s, and it is 100% because it is Alabama football.
Your fandom should be based on the front of the jersey, not the back. It seems a bit ridiculous to suggest that fans should or will stop rooting because their team can't "compete" to win championships in the changing climate - certain teams have always been at the top and certain teams have always been at the bottom and there is always one or two teams that surprise for a year or two. Until one team starts buying the championship year in and year out these hot takes about college football are just silly.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:32 am to WG_Dawg
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If you think allowing 18 year old high schoolers to skip college entirely is good for college football I don't know what to tell ya. There's been maaaaaaybe 10 people in the last 50 years that could have done that and not been a totla embarrassment, and 10 is probably very generous.
That's the NFL's problem, not college footballs.
If they have the option, great, or maybe play in some sort of spinoff league, then you could sign 18 year olds on scholorship to contracts. No more NIL, no more cheating, just pure college football. Will it have the "best" players, nope, but that's not the point.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:32 am to RollTide1987
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He's definitely hitting the nail right on the head. Around this time 10 years ago, I was about as die hard about this sport as it came. Now in April 2022, I am nowhere near as excited about the impending college football season as I have been in years past
To be honest for Bama fans some of this has to do with apathy due to success. That said I don’t like the direction of CFB and do believe it will fall apart if things are not changed.
Posted on 4/27/22 at 9:33 am to tylerdurden24
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Bro, wut?
building bigger stadiums, being on TV more often, and paying coaches more are all things that are on the fringe of the actual game being played on the field between the endzones. Never in history have we had a situation where an 18 year old freshman coudl say "I was paid $100K to come here and start. I'm not starting the season opener, so I'm going to sit out unless i get paid more money, and if I'm not paid more I'm going to transfer to your biggest rival and start there next season" and it be 100% completely above board within the rules. Taht is insane.
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And to be clear, my point is that the sport is constantly changing. It never stops changing.
Of course, that's just life in general. There's always going to be changes, some for good and some for bad, but it just feels like these current changes are massively hurting the sport overall. I remember when I was younger my boomer-generation uncle would always talk abotu how back in his day all the games were at 1pm and he didn't like this night game business. That is so, so much different of a change though from what we have now.
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Romanticism is baked into the experience.
I feel like people, myself very much included, romanticize the time period they grew up with and I don't disagree with that. But agian, I'm talking about major sweeping changes to the fundamentals of how the sport operates. Not just what time the games are or what mediums you're able to watch them.
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