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re: It’s time to expand Playoffs
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:24 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:24 pm to djsdawg
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Time for CFB to join the rest of the sports world in having a strong post season
Is this another way to say “My team hasn’t been able to get over the hump and the one chance ripped our hearts out with 2nd and 26”??? I mean, as an Alabama fan, I’d say the post season is purdy goooddd !!!!!
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:35 pm to MacMan10
I'm for it. We need more games verses ranked opponents. This past season gave us a taste of what things could be. I'm cool with a 10 game conference schedule and a 16 team playoff.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:37 pm to GBJs
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Is this another way to say
No, not at all.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:43 pm to RollTide1987
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Meaningful =/= quality. The problem isn't opt outs, the problem is parity.
When meaningful = many key players not opting out while playing in elimination games, that immediately makes the post season better. Exhibition bowl games dont provide that.
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There is no data backing this up given what we've seen from the playoffs thus far. There have been 14 semi-final games played since 2014. Only three of those have been competitive.
Is it a shock that the gap between #1/2 and the rest can be wide? No.
The gap between 3-12 is likely MUCH smaller. Thats where the good games will come from. As of now, those games dont exist.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:00 pm to RollTide1987
MacMan10 - give it up - you're wrong on at least a dozen levels. Way too many big problems with your plan: uncompetitive games, too many games in the first round, extending the season, messing with conferences and their unique culture. There's not enough time in on a Saturday to telecast all the first round games - and extending the first round out to a second week is insane. Apparently you forgot about the NFL. Second round games would all be blowouts and the "upsets" you're touting would "never" happen to the top 2 or 3 teams and to the top 5 about once every 10 years.
The truth is there are only 3 or 4 teams each year that have the talent to win a Championship - and the quality & quantity of talent on the rest of the teams declines too quickly to be competitive. College football fans already know this. In the heat of a Playoff good teams won't come in flat or unmotivated and lose to a nobody. You're dreaming if you think a #16 team could ever win or even be competitive in 3 or 4 round college football Playoff. Basketball is a different sport with far higher outcome variations.
The truth is there are only 3 or 4 teams each year that have the talent to win a Championship - and the quality & quantity of talent on the rest of the teams declines too quickly to be competitive. College football fans already know this. In the heat of a Playoff good teams won't come in flat or unmotivated and lose to a nobody. You're dreaming if you think a #16 team could ever win or even be competitive in 3 or 4 round college football Playoff. Basketball is a different sport with far higher outcome variations.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:03 pm to Nitro Express
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10 game conference schedule
I am absolutely good with tho10 game conference schedule... at least 9 ... that was excellent every weekend.
.......well... except for a couple weekends where folks tried to chicken out.....
I’m JUST KIDDING!!!!!
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:05 pm to djsdawg
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No, not at all.
It was a joke bro... maybe a shitty one but that’s what I had at the moment
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:07 pm to SoFla Tideroller
I can only think of four games that were actually competitive in playoffs and that was Bama OHio state, Bama Washington and Ohio state Clemson since playoffs began.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:11 pm to labamafan
This is true.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:27 pm to MacMan10
Shut the frick up
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:31 pm to TrendingRight
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There's not enough time in on a Saturday to telecast all the first round games
Of course there is.
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In the heat of a Playoff good teams won't come in flat or unmotivated and lose to a nobody. You're dreaming if you think a #16 team could ever win or even be competitive in 3 or 4 round college football Playoff.
It would be rare, but I dont think this is the point he was making, and its certainly a point I havent made.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 12:16 am to MacMan10
No. I think if you win the SEC you are in 100% of the time. If a team can’t win the sec then they shouldn’t be in the playoff. Expansion will water it down by putting teams like Cincinnati or UCF in it only to have them getting blown out by a Big10 or SEC champ. The G5 might be able to give a pac10 or big12 champ a run for their money in a playoff game.
Don’t reward a team with a chance at the championship if they don’t win their conference. The only exception might be if the team in question lost a nail biter in the conference championship and that’s their only loss.
Don’t reward a team with a chance at the championship if they don’t win their conference. The only exception might be if the team in question lost a nail biter in the conference championship and that’s their only loss.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 12:26 am to turnpiketiger
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No. I think if you win the SEC you are in 100% of the time. If a team can’t win the sec then they shouldn’t be in the playoff. Expansion will water it down by putting teams like Cincinnati or UCF in it only to have them getting blown out by a Big10 or SEC champ. The G5 might be able to give a pac10 or big12 champ a run for their money in a playoff game.
Don’t reward a team with a chance at the championship if they don’t win their conference. The only exception might be if the team in question lost a nail biter in the conference championship and that’s their only loss.
Agree with most of your post. Lots of losses by elite teams are better than the best wins higher ranked teams have in any given season. A subjective eye must be cast on the elites when they play each other and the penalty for the loss carefully analyzed.
What I don't want to see is two shitty teams play a "good" game because they are both equally unremarkable - or hear the argument that it was a "good game".
Posted on 2/6/21 at 2:16 am to Tuscaloosa
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frick that. You don’t get to lose a quarter of your regular season games and then call yourself the best team in the country.
It's done that way in every single other level of football.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 2:19 am to TrendingRight
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The truth is there are only 3 or 4 teams each year that have the talent to win a Championship - and the quality & quantity of talent on the rest of the teams declines too quickly to be competitive. College football fans already know this. In the heat of a Playoff good teams won't come in flat or unmotivated and lose to a nobody. You're dreaming if you think a #16 team could ever win or even be competitive in 3 or 4 round college football Playoff. Basketball is a different sport with far higher outcome variations.
Talent is becoming too concentrated and a full playoff with all conference winners would do a lot to help spread it back out.
What we have right now is killing the sport. People are sick of Bama, Clemson, Ohio State and team X. The ratings have gone down every single year.
It's much better for CFB for everyone to have a chance to win the title.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 2:22 am to Dr RC
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It's done that way in every single other level of football.
Interesting
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:16 am to MacMan10
Paradoxically, expansion of playoffs would bring 2 loss Bama, Ohio State, Oklahoma,etc into play more often than a "new team" would get in the field.
Maybe they throw a G5 team in the pool, maybe a "new participant" gets in with 1 loss, but I think this would only make it more likely that the "powers" get in every single year.
Probably would get 2 SEC teams in the field most seasons.
Maybe they throw a G5 team in the pool, maybe a "new participant" gets in with 1 loss, but I think this would only make it more likely that the "powers" get in every single year.
Probably would get 2 SEC teams in the field most seasons.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 6:47 am to Dr RC
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It's done that way in every single other level of football.
In the NFL perhaps. But the NFL was designed from the very beginning with parity in mind. College football, however, was not. Just look at North Dakota State and the FCS. That program has won eight of the last 10 national championships in that sub-division of college football. Northwest Missouri State and Valdosta State dominate in Division II and Mount Union essentially owns Division III.
In high school football, at least in the state of Alabama, the two largest and most cared about classifications are run by a handful of teams. In 7A your state champion will always be either Hoover, Thompson, or Central-Phenix. In 6A, your perennial powers are Pinson Valley, Clay-Chalkville, Opelika, and Spanish Fort.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 6:48 am
Posted on 2/6/21 at 7:57 am to TrendingRight
Again, your solution is to have bowl games between like a Florida and Oklahoma where everyone opts out and it is truly meaningless. They weren’t even the same team as in the regular season.
My solution creates more matchups like a uga vs osu, Texas am vs Norte dame, Florida vs Clemson, Florida Oklahoma with zero opt outs. Those would be good games. Yes, the Alabama’s of the world will blow out each team they play. But at least you get other games to watch that are meaningful with NO OPT OUT.
My solution creates more matchups like a uga vs osu, Texas am vs Norte dame, Florida vs Clemson, Florida Oklahoma with zero opt outs. Those would be good games. Yes, the Alabama’s of the world will blow out each team they play. But at least you get other games to watch that are meaningful with NO OPT OUT.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 7:59 am
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:11 am to MacMan10
The natives are restless, but why? Well, it's not an indictment about the playoff, it's an indictment about the bowl season. It's a failure in every sense of the word. It will only get worst as time goes by.
So it's coming, but 8 will be the number. This will finally include all the bridesmaids who keep telling themselves they got beat out of their opportunity. Victims of circumstances.
Mostly, it will create a little more excitement among the fan bases and college football needs that.
So it's coming, but 8 will be the number. This will finally include all the bridesmaids who keep telling themselves they got beat out of their opportunity. Victims of circumstances.
Mostly, it will create a little more excitement among the fan bases and college football needs that.
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