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Posted on 2/5/21 at 8:43 pm to GBJs
Your still not looking at other potential matchup GBJs
Posted on 2/5/21 at 8:45 pm to MacMan10
Another point: that UGA vs Cincinnati game was great. How much more epic if it was in the playoffs and meaningful to keep season alive???
Waaaaay better
Waaaaay better
Posted on 2/5/21 at 8:49 pm to GBJs
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Then why expand?
To improve the postseason. To reduce opt outs.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 8:53 pm to MacMan10
And you still can’t stop the opt outs... that’s a personal choice for the players.
So we look at Florida... a shell of the team that played Alabama in the SECCG? Agreed. The ones who played will be better for it in 21.
Look at LSU... the freshmen and sophomores who finished with 2 wins to end the season... they played for each other.
It wasn’t too long ago the bowls didn’t even count for the champion (Alabama 1973). The teams used the extra practice to help prep for the next season. Many nowadays consider them as meaningless, the players didn’t.
Every team doesn’t belong in the playoffs. He’ll, why not use the conference championship game as part of the playoffs? There you expand to 12, seed them 1-6 based off of the old BCS formula. Give 1 and 2 a bye and you have meaningful games...
So we look at Florida... a shell of the team that played Alabama in the SECCG? Agreed. The ones who played will be better for it in 21.
Look at LSU... the freshmen and sophomores who finished with 2 wins to end the season... they played for each other.
It wasn’t too long ago the bowls didn’t even count for the champion (Alabama 1973). The teams used the extra practice to help prep for the next season. Many nowadays consider them as meaningless, the players didn’t.
Every team doesn’t belong in the playoffs. He’ll, why not use the conference championship game as part of the playoffs? There you expand to 12, seed them 1-6 based off of the old BCS formula. Give 1 and 2 a bye and you have meaningful games...
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:00 pm to GBJs
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And you still can’t stop the opt outs... that’s a personal choice for the players.
Are you sure about that? No playoff team has had an opt out. Those games meant something to those players.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:00 pm to MacMan10
Nah do 8. 5 P5 champions, 1 G5 champion, and 2 at large
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:05 pm to Dawgfan247
I’m fine with that. I just think you miss out on a couple fun matchups. And 9-16 get put in bowl games no one cares about anymore.
The bowl system is a dying system fellas. It’s not like it was even 10 years ago. Hurts my heart as well.
The bowl system is a dying system fellas. It’s not like it was even 10 years ago. Hurts my heart as well.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:05 pm to MacMan10
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1) Season is already watered down due to so many blowouts by the best teams.Hasn’t been that much drama or excitement with the four team playoffs.
So water down the playoffs?
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2) Bowl game opt out are here. If that Florida vs Oklahoma matchup was a 8 vs 9 matchup in the playoffs-there wouldn’t of been opt outs.
Unworthy teams not having opt outs doesn’t improve the playoffs
3) If you want to see upsets or a new team win it all. This is your best chance.
Unworthy teams getting lucky in an upset doesn’t improve the playoffs
4) More revenue.
Short term maybe. But long term unworthy teams will cause a loss of interest
The championship should by its nature be exclusive and a spot earned. It’s bad enough having 1-2 teams in a 4 game playoff be clunkers. Adding more unworthy teams just cheapens the accomplishment
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:15 pm to Smokeyone
No matter how many teams are added to the playoffs the first team that did not make it will cry that they should be included. Think this is not true? Follow the expansion of the NCAA basketball tournament.
Why not start the year playing 4 games after which all P5 and G5 teams are ranked. Use the old BCS method to rank them. Have the #1 ranked team play the last ranked team. higher ranked team has home field advantage and continue to play until you end up with 4 teams who play in the semifinals and finals like they do now. Teams eliminated early can still play conference games and as been proven even non conference games.
Why not start the year playing 4 games after which all P5 and G5 teams are ranked. Use the old BCS method to rank them. Have the #1 ranked team play the last ranked team. higher ranked team has home field advantage and continue to play until you end up with 4 teams who play in the semifinals and finals like they do now. Teams eliminated early can still play conference games and as been proven even non conference games.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:18 pm to Smokeyone
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So water down the playoffs?
Getting matchups like uga vs Ohio state, Texas am vs Norte dame, Florida vs Clemson is not the same watering down as the pastry schedule OSU, Clemson, etc.
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Unworthy teams not having opt outs doesn’t improve the playoffs
It absolutely improves CF postseason. No one watches anything outside of playoffs. Look at tv ratings, opt outs, revenue, etc.
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Unworthy teams getting lucky in an upset doesn’t improve the playoffs
Again it improves college football as a whole. Was there even a meaningful upset in the regular season this year? More ranked matchup can only be good for the sport.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:26 pm to MacMan10
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Getting matchups like uga vs Ohio state, Texas am vs Norte dame, Florida vs Clemson is not the same watering down as the pastry schedule OSU, Clemson, etc.
Is the goal better games or crowning the best team in college football? Are spots earned or given?
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It absolutely improves CF postseason. No one watches anything outside of playoffs. Look at tv ratings, opt outs, revenue, etc.
Better post season or crowning the best team in college football?
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Again it improves college football as a whole. Was there even a meaningful upset in the regular season this year? More ranked matchup can only be good for the sport.
Again. Better games is great. But crowning the best team in college football vs a possible watchable matchup
8 regular season conference games and 4 games from a single P5 conference (think SEC Big 12ish challenge) does the same thing without cheapening the playoffs.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:30 pm to Smokeyone
I agree with you there and as a cf fan I say watchable games (more ranked matchups) is more important for the health of the sport.
As an Alabama fan I say it’s more important to make sure the best team gets the crown.
I’m making these points as a cf fan.
As an Alabama fan I say it’s more important to make sure the best team gets the crown.
I’m making these points as a cf fan.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:33 pm to MacMan10
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Thoughts?
College football sucks.
It’s the same teams every year in the playoffs. Gumps are to blame.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:34 pm to MacMan10
Cf didn’t used to be so focused on the champion with more bowl emphasis than today. I think a playoff would ironically correct that in celebrating the tournament rather than the champion kind of like in basketball.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:37 pm to Smokeyone
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Unworthy teams not having opt outs doesn’t improve the playoffs
It improves the postseason. Time for CFB to join the rest of the sports world in having a strong post season.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:05 pm to djsdawg
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It improves the postseason.
Enlarging the postseason =/= improving the postseason. When #1 Alabama is up 28-0 in the second quarter against #8 Cincinnati everyone will tune out just like they've been tuning out for the other semi-final games.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:10 pm to RollTide1987
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Enlarging the postseason =/= improving the postseason.
Enlarging it increases the # of meaningful games, which eliminates opt outs, thus improving the postseason.
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hen #1 Alabama is up 28-0 in the second quarter against #8 Cincinnati everyone will tune out just like they've been tuning out for the other semi-final games.
But those 4/5 and 3/6 games sure were exciting, which is 2 more than the zero before.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:18 pm to djsdawg
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Enlarging it increases the # of meaningful games, which eliminates opt outs, thus improving the postseason.
Meaningful =/= quality. The problem isn't opt outs, the problem is parity. As it stands right now, there are 130 schools in the FBS. More than 100 of those have absolutely no shot at making the playoffs, let alone winning the national championship, and they realize this before the season even begins.
There are between 10-12 schools in a given season that have even a prayer's chance at winning a national championship - with roughly four or five of those being legitimate contenders for the crown.
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But those 4/5 and 3/6 games sure were exciting
There is no data backing this up given what we've seen from the playoffs thus far. There have been 14 semi-final games played since 2014. Only three of those have been competitive.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:19 pm to Rhino5
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Gumps are to blame.
I assume by “Gump” you mean Alabama’s players and coaches? If so
DAMN RIGHT!!!
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