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re: It’s time to expand Playoffs
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:13 am to MacMan10
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:13 am to MacMan10
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My solution creates more matchups like a uga vs osu, Texas am vs Norte dame, Florida vs Clemson, Florida Oklahoma with zero opt outs. Those would be good games.
Your solution does nothing about the parity problem. Sure...some of them might be good games, but the majority of them will still be blow outs. I couldn't care less about the opt outs. There are legitimately only four or five teams capable of winning the national championship every year under the current system.
People will tune in for the opening round of your hypothetical playoff system, but will tune out when the usual teams advance deeper into the playoffs. That does nothing but hurt the sport.
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Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:19 am to RollTide1987
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Your solution does nothing about the parity problem
Neither does yours?!
I think the reason talent has centralized so much is the fact that the same four teams make the playoffs every year, get that air time, and it helps recruiting. It’s like when NotreDame was the only team on TV. Huge recruiting advantage.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:29 am to MacMan10
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It’s time to expand Playoffs
Nope. The semifinals are already blowouts with just four teams. The CFP doesn’t need more blowouts with a playoff expansion.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:32 am to RollTide1987
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People will tune in for the opening round of your hypothetical playoff system, but will tune out when the usual teams advance deeper into the playoffs. That does nothing but hurt the sport.
So they’ll tune out when we to get to what we have now?? Lol A four team playoff. No they won’t.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:35 am to MacMan10
They already are tuning out.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:36 am to MacMan10
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Neither does yours?!
I don’t have a solution because it’s not easily solved.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:37 am to Sid E Walker
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Nope. The semifinals are already blowouts with just four teams. The CFP doesn’t need more blowouts with a playoff expansion.
I’ve addressed this point like 5 times. There will be more blowouts. Yes. But there will also be MORE meaningful games/quality games as well. More matchups vs top ranked teams is good for college football.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:39 am to MacMan10
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I think the reason talent has centralized so much is the fact that the same four teams make the playoffs every year
And those same four teams will continue to make the playoffs under an expanded system. In fact...it makes it easier for them to make it into the playoffs with 8-16 games. A 10-2 Alabama or Ohio State will get more consideration over a 12-1 or 13-0 Cincinnati. By the time we get to the Final Four, two of the four teams will (likely) be a two loss Alabama and a two loss Ohio State.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 8:40 am
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:40 am to RollTide1987
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They already are tuning out.
So your solution is to do nothing.
Did you work for blockbuster?
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:41 am to RollTide1987
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And those same four teams will continue to make the playoffs under an expanded system. In fact...it makes it easier for them to make it into the playoffs with 8-16 games. A 10-2 Alabama or Ohio State will get more consideration over a 12-1 or 13-0 Cincinnati.
They already make the playoffs every year so who cares if it’s easier.
Clemson, Notre dame, and even OSU could have easily been upset this year in a playoff
Especially Clemson.
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 8:43 am
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:42 am to MacMan10
Expanding the playoffs alone won't do it, it's time to reshuffle the conferences and cut the bottom 10 down the FCS. 12 10 team conferences, 16 team playoff. 9 conference games, 3 OOC, then the playoffs. 12 conference champs 4 at large. Most teams will have to win their league to get in, makes the regular season and conference championship mean a bunch.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:42 am to MacMan10
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So your solution is to do nothing.
My solution is to step back and actually think about this instead of just doing the simple-minded thing of expanding the playoffs once again. The BCS was created to get the two best teams into the game. People got angry when the same teams were showing up in the big game every single year. So they decided to create the playoffs to allow for more variety and parity. It has done the exact opposite of that. So your solution is to expand the playoffs even further in the hopes of creating more parity and more variety. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
It's time for a more nuanced and intellectual approach to the problem and that requires more than just a handful of fans sitting at their computers spitballing ideas back and forth for 24 straight hours.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:44 am to RollTide1987
This sounds like blockbuster.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:47 am to MacMan10
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This sounds like blockbuster.
And your plan sounds like Movie Gallery.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:47 am to RollTide1987
CF has too small a sample size to not have a playoff.
Baseball is the sport where you should have just four teams. Maybe two.
Baseball is the sport where you should have just four teams. Maybe two.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:48 am to RollTide1987
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And your plan sounds like Movie Gallery
Haha touché
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:50 am to MacMan10
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I’ve addressed this point like 5 times.
I didn’t feel like reading through five pages of a bad idea.
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There will be more blowouts. Yes. But there will also be MORE meaningful games/quality games as well. More matchups vs top ranked teams is good for college football.
That’s highly doubtful. Having an additional playoff game will only increase the chance for injury. Not to mention that you’d ultimately have the same top 4-5 teams in the playoffs if the field had remained four teams.
I’d almost prefer to go back to the BCS and just find the two best teams.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:59 am to RollTide1987
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Your solution does nothing about the parity problem.
Even if this is true (and I don't think this is the intent of expansion, which might make this a red herring), the benefits of expansion are obvious.
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I couldn't care less about the opt outs.
Well, obvious to anyone who doesnt think like this. Opt outs are terrible, and a result of a playoff that is too small. No other sport deals with this.
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That does nothing but hurt the sport.
If its already happening, and it is, then this point is a wash.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:59 am to Sid E Walker
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Having an additional playoff game will only increase the chance for injury
It’s the same number of total games played every year. No increased chance. 11 game regular season for all 120 teams eliminates 60 games.
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Not to mention that you’d ultimately have the same top 4-5 teams in the playoffs if the field had remained four teams
So we’d essentially have what we have now. Also this year I would bet we wouldn’t have had the same four teams. Clemson was overrated by an extremely weak schedule. Same for OSU. Could of easily been upset by an Oklahoma, Iowa state, Georgia, Florida, Cincinnati, Texas am.
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I’d almost prefer to go back to the BCS and just find the two best teams.
I was a BCS guy as well before expansion happened. But the difference now is the opting outs. I liked bowl season where I could watch a Florida and Oklahoma. That culture is dead tho. The postseason has changed dramatically thanks to Leonard fournette opt outs.
Posted on 2/6/21 at 11:45 am to RollTide1987
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College football, however, was not. Just look at North Dakota State and the FCS. That program has won eight of the last 10 national championships in that sub-division of college football. Northwest Missouri State and Valdosta State dominate in Division II and Mount Union essentially owns Division III.
In high school football, at least in the state of Alabama, the two largest and most cared about classifications are run by a handful of teams. In 7A your state champion will always be either Hoover, Thompson, or Central-Phenix. In 6A, your perennial powers are Pinson Valley, Clay-Chalkville, Opelika, and Spanish Fort.
So what? The point is in every other level of football if you win your division or conference you make the playoffs. Period. End of story. IDGAF if a smaller high school in the highest classification has less of a chance to win the state title. We don't tell them "Oh sorry, you went 15-0 but we know Team X that has 6k students at it's school compared to your 2k is going to win anyway so no playoff for you."
This post was edited on 2/6/21 at 11:47 am
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