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re: Is Brady the greatest sports player of all time? No it is

Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by icheerforgeorgia
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:28 pm to
Roger Federer up there
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:46 pm to
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Literally got kicked out of his youth league for being too good and had to play with high school/college guys at what? 14?.


Sounds like me as a young Taekwondo black belt. I had to fight 12 year old black belts because i was too good against 9 year old peers. I should've never started playing football
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30084 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 9:51 pm to
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Bill Russell won 11 championships in 13 years.


Is this another thread where retards confuse team accomplishments with individual achievement?
Posted by Jboney2688
Member since Jul 2020
395 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:30 pm to
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Is this another thread where retards confuse team accomplishments with individual achievement?


No obviously it is the one where some dumbass thinks Gretzky was on the ice all by his damned self you stupid motherfricker.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18803 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 10:48 pm to
Gretzky handled a puck like Pete handled a basketball. Guy was off da chain...
Posted by GBJs
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2012
3898 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:19 pm to
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like Pete handled a basketball.


I assume you mean Pistol Pete? I wonder what the numbers would have been if he’d had a three point stripe.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19686 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:41 pm to
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Soccer is much more technical sport than football. Hate to break it to you.
soccer is an endless tedium of kicking a ball around the middle of a massive field, where nothing happens 99.9% of the time. Now if you took that bullshite, made the field much smaller, put everyone on blades, made the field ice, and introduced fights, then you might have something

Seeding the field with traps and mines, and setting the ball on fire would also be acceptable
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 11:43 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 2/5/21 at 11:54 pm to
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Yeah anyone who says Gretzky isn't the GOAT GOAT just doesn't know/care about hockey.


Here's the problem:

Most elite athletes don't go to Hockey. They go to the NBA, NFL, Association Football, Boxing/MMA and the list goes on on and on. He dominated a league of players where very little parity existed.

Tom Brady is going up against absolute freaks of nature, top-tier athletes. Lionel Messi is the best player in a pool of millions if not tens of million of different players from all over the globe rich and poor.

This also applies to a guy like Wladimir Klitschko, where every startup gym has a pool of 20 - 30 boxers (especially in poorer countries).

Hockey may have a pool of tens of thousands, because not everyone has access to ice or even the culture built around it. So finding that one dominating athlete is incredibly easier, and of course he just happened to be the best at a time where it was even less popular and there was absolutely no parity.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Southeast Texas
Member since May 2020
9437 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 12:16 am to
Kobe
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4249 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 12:48 am to
This. Bill Russell has a record that will probably never be duplicated.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9208 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 2:29 am to
Old school, but Edwin Moses deserves a s/o. Dominated his event for 10 years, winning 122 consecutive races & set the world record 4 times. Salute.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
5796 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:06 am to
Back when the NBA was watchable ....

Posted by OSTiger10
Fountainbleau, MS
Member since Nov 2012
150 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 5:55 am to
Be like Mike has to be mentioned
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4309 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 6:22 am to
The best athlete of all time (relative to their specific sport) is without a doubt Usain Bolt in sprinting. There's no other sport out there that encompasses a wider range of athletes. Football players run, basketball players run, baseball players run, soccer players run. Everyone can appreciate a fast runner. There's no athletic talent that is more easily identifiable and more widely developed than foot speed, and Usain Bolt is the best of all time. He won the 100 meters in the Olympics one year (the most intense competition there is) and frickin' celebrated the last 10 meters.

His success also isn't dependent on a supporting cast. You think Joe Montana had a better career because of Bill Walsh, Jerry Rice, Ronnie Lott, etc.? Yes. Bolt's records and accomplishments are independent of that.

This is your frickin' answer right here.

Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14066 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 7:13 am to
To be the greatest I think he has to transcend the sport he represents and everyone else's. Have we ever had such a universal athlete that simply captured the publics' fascination on a level like no other?

Oh yeah, and he was about as brash, charismatic, and controversial as they came. There was a time when the golden age of boxing in the heavyweight division was king, all over the world. No one dominated that sport in word and deed like the greatest of them all, Muhammad Ali.

Living through the civil rights era and the Vietnam war and the crazy rebellious 60s in our American culture Ali was a completely different kind of sports hero. He started his career as the antihero, starting fights verbally long before he got in the ring and drawing millions into what he was selling. He ducked no fighter and often fought the best in his division numerous times. At the back end of his career, Ali was universally known and admired and bigger than any world leader or sports star that existed. You loved him or hated him but there was only one "greatest of all time," Muhammad Ali.
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 7:16 am to
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Soccer is much more technical sport than football. Hate to break it to you.


As a fan of both, it really isn't
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42273 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 7:17 am to
If only we had a More Sports Board for this thread...
Posted by Tigerpro2a
Huntsville, AL
Member since Sep 2018
626 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 8:59 am to
Secretariat. The greatest Athlete of all time. He still holds the records for fastest time set at the Derby, even with all the advances in the equine medicine today. Fun fact, his Derby run...he got faster every 1/4 mile which has not been duplicated.

And of course we cannot forget his Belmont run where he won by 31 lengths. You have to try to lose by 31 lengths. That is insane...and yes...still a track record today.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4309 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:16 am to
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Secretariat. The greatest Athlete of all time. He still holds the records for fastest time set at the Derby, even with all the advances in the equine medicine today. Fun fact, his Derby run...he got faster every 1/4 mile which has not been duplicated.

And of course we cannot forget his Belmont run where he won by 31 lengths. You have to try to lose by 31 lengths. That is insane...and yes...still a track record today.

He holds the Preakness record too.
Posted by csgau
On the dock of the Bay
Member since Jan 2014
581 posts
Posted on 2/6/21 at 9:16 am to
Golf is the most difficult and its not even close.
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