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If you can't win your division or conference, you can't be "National" Champion
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:04 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:04 am
It's really simple. I don't care if you're 11-1 and everyone else in the country has 2-3 losses. If you can't win your division or conference, how can you claim a "National" championship?
Allowing this makes the regular season and conferences meaningless. It deconstructs the very essence of college football and allows teams to back in, making all we saw before meaningless.
Saban changes his mind on this based on what benefits him. But, unless you go to an 8 team playoff and have all of the conference champions and multiple at-large teams, having teams who didn't win their division or conference when they had a chance, is a farce.
And, in this particular case, the SEC is a mess and had a terrible year. If you can't even win your division or conference in the SEC in 2017, then you have no claim on a national title nor should you play for it.
I've maintained this position for 20 years. I still think it is true.
Allowing this makes the regular season and conferences meaningless. It deconstructs the very essence of college football and allows teams to back in, making all we saw before meaningless.
Saban changes his mind on this based on what benefits him. But, unless you go to an 8 team playoff and have all of the conference champions and multiple at-large teams, having teams who didn't win their division or conference when they had a chance, is a farce.
And, in this particular case, the SEC is a mess and had a terrible year. If you can't even win your division or conference in the SEC in 2017, then you have no claim on a national title nor should you play for it.
I've maintained this position for 20 years. I still think it is true.
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:05 am to AlaTiger
Most people agree. Would make the regular season count more.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:06 am to AlaTiger
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Saban changes his mind on this based on what benefits him.
Holy shite. How many times are you idiots going to attribute this bullshite to Saban? He never changed his mind, because he never said anything about needing to win your conference to make the CFP.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:06 am to AlaTiger
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If you can't win your division or conference, you can't be "National" Champion
21-0
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:07 am to AlaTiger
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It's really simple. I don't care if you're 11-1 and everyone else in the country has 2-3 losses. If you can't win your division or conference, how can you claim a "National" championship? Allowing this makes the regular season and conferences meaningless. It deconstructs the very essence of college football and allows teams to back in, making all we saw before meaningless. Saban changes his mind on this based on what benefits him. But, unless you go to an 8 team playoff and have all of the conference champions and multiple at-large teams, having teams who didn't win their division or conference when they had a chance, is a farce. And, in this particular case, the SEC is a mess and had a terrible year. If you can't even win your division or conference in the SEC in 2017, then you have no claim on a national title nor should you play for it. I've maintained this position for 20 years. I still think it is true.
Having an at large team win the National Championship contradicts your belief that a team that doesn't win their division or conference can't be a National Champion.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:08 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:08 am to AlaTiger
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If you can't win your division or conference, how can you claim a "National" championship?
If the CFP committee puts you in and you win it.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:09 am to AlaTiger
21-0 says otherwise. Sorry.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:10 am to AlaTiger
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If you can't win your division or conference, how can you claim a "National" championship?
You can't, Saban was right when he said it.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:11 am to AlaTiger
I agree but I am not sure if SJW Saban does.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:12 am to AlaTiger
Apparently you can.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:15 am to AlaTiger
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Saban changes his mind on this based on what benefits him.
No he doesn't. Most of the quotes you've seen attributed to him are completely made up. He has always said the best teams should play for it.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:15 am to AlaTiger
There’s an espn commercial with finebaum showing the sec mascots... Paul says in order to win a national title you have to win the sec.
evidently this is a farce
evidently this is a farce
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:16 am to bamawriter
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He never changed his mind, because he never said anything about needing to win your conference to make the CFP
Lane Kiffins twitter account says otherwise, baw.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:17 am to tiger chaser
Finebaum was reading from a script written by an LSU man.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:18 am to AlaTiger
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Allowing this makes the regular season and conferences meaningless.
Wrong because saying you have to win a conference title as a requirement makes the regular season meaningless. ISU could be 9-3 playing for their conference title right now and you actually think if they were to win it they deserve to be over many teams with 1 or 2 losses?
If so have it but your hatred for UA and Saban should not be your motivator.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:22 am to AlaTiger
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Allowing this makes the regular season and conferences meaningless. It deconstructs the very essence of college football and allows teams to back in, making all we saw before meaningless.
We've had many, many one loss champs this century. Even a two loss champ.
Why should Bama be penalized so severely because their one loss is to the West champ instead of Ole Miss or A&M? Or because the conference had a down year and FSU laid a highly unusual egg?
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I've maintained this position for 20 years. I still think it is true.
bullshite. You will change your mind once the shoe is on LSU's foot.
By the way, this is exactly why the men's basketball tournament got expanded beyond just conference champs. It's why MLB eventually added a wild card. Sometimes two worthy teams happen to be in the same conference, even the same division, even the same state.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:23 am to AlaTiger
This is stupid.
The best teams should play for a NC. Just because one team happened to lose one game to someone in conference doesn't mean they're not better than a team that lost two or three games, but won their conference.
And, I'm not saying that in a bid to get Bama in. I don't know that we are one of the four best teams this year. I just mean in general. Conference champions aren't always better than other teams out there.
The best teams should play for a NC. Just because one team happened to lose one game to someone in conference doesn't mean they're not better than a team that lost two or three games, but won their conference.
And, I'm not saying that in a bid to get Bama in. I don't know that we are one of the four best teams this year. I just mean in general. Conference champions aren't always better than other teams out there.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:33 am to AlaTiger
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Saban changes his mind on this based on what benefits him.
Link?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:33 am to Rhino5
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Saban was right when he said it.
Link?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:34 am to Teague
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This is stupid. The best teams should play for a NC. Just because one team happened to lose one game to someone in conference doesn't mean they're not better than a team that lost two or three games, but won their conference. And, I'm not saying that in a bid to get Bama in. I don't know that we are one of the four best teams this year. I just mean in general. Conference champions aren't always better than other teams out there.
You're creating the logical fallacy of false dilemma here. Teams who aren't the best team in their conference have no right to claiming to be the best team in college football. And also, Alabama did not deserve to play for the championship in 2011. Oklahoma St. did. Just because the people in charge looked past that in 2011 doesn't make it right. Oklahoma St. played the tougher schedule in 2011. They won their conference in 2011 while Bama did not. AND, their loss was better. They lost on the road by a field goal. Alabama lost at home by a field goal. Furthermore, the non-biased BCS computer ranking agrees with me. Alabama simply got in because of the bogus non-defensible "eye test" crap. Have a look.
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