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re: How the hell did Bama not win it all in 2018?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:10 am to MtVernon
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:10 am to MtVernon
If all it took was having the most talent, then how come Texas while in the state with the most NFL talent, not even sniff a national title post 2009?
On a second note, how did Alabama go undefeated in regular season in just Saban's second year and go undefeated entirely and win a national title in his third? Were we already out-talenting EVERYONE with just 2-3 recruiting classes?
On a second note, how did Alabama go undefeated in regular season in just Saban's second year and go undefeated entirely and win a national title in his third? Were we already out-talenting EVERYONE with just 2-3 recruiting classes?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:10 am to MtVernon
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Sometimes a team just rises up and plays a great game. Clemson did that
Sometimes a rigged stockpile of talent just wasn't enough.
I could float a boat on this denial river
Cool
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:11 am to MtVernon
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You people will never get it. Saban won because he had the decked stacked down there at his little Alabama gig
It’s almost like every college team that wins has stacked talent. Well, except Texas. They squander more talent than anybody else
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:25 am to cfish140
(a) Clemson had a fantastic gameplan with an absolutely elite front 7 that could implement it. Give up yards between the 20s, buckle down in the red zone where the RPO game is constricted and much harder to operate. They did it to perfection. We moved the ball up and down the field for the first 3 quarters but we only scored 2 touchdowns.
3 plays, 75 yards, TD (long play)
10 plays, 75 yards, TD
11 plays, 45 yards, FG
7 plays, 31 yards, INT
13 plays, 51 yards, TOD
8 plays, 59 yards, TOD
9 plays, 66 yards, TOD
I'm pretty sure we scored 10 points on 5 trips inside the Clemson 25. That's bad for any offense, but for our offense that year it was unheard of.
(b) Clemson was incredibly good.
Trevor Lawrence
Trevor Etienne
Justyn Ross
Tee Higgins
Amari Rodgers
Hunter Renfrow
Christian Wilkins
Clelin Ferrell
Dexter Lawrence
Austin Bryant
AJ Terrell
Trayvon Mullen
K'Von Wallace
Once Lawrence was the full time guy with his feet under him (after their close win against Syracuse) they absolutely beat the shite out of everyone else they played the 2nd half of the season.
(c) Our weak spot on defense got exposed - secondary. There had been some signs throughout the year that we could be beaten back there (Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma) and Clemson was by far the best equipped to do with those WRs and Lawrence and they did.
3 plays, 75 yards, TD (long play)
10 plays, 75 yards, TD
11 plays, 45 yards, FG
7 plays, 31 yards, INT
13 plays, 51 yards, TOD
8 plays, 59 yards, TOD
9 plays, 66 yards, TOD
I'm pretty sure we scored 10 points on 5 trips inside the Clemson 25. That's bad for any offense, but for our offense that year it was unheard of.
(b) Clemson was incredibly good.
Trevor Lawrence
Trevor Etienne
Justyn Ross
Tee Higgins
Amari Rodgers
Hunter Renfrow
Christian Wilkins
Clelin Ferrell
Dexter Lawrence
Austin Bryant
AJ Terrell
Trayvon Mullen
K'Von Wallace
Once Lawrence was the full time guy with his feet under him (after their close win against Syracuse) they absolutely beat the shite out of everyone else they played the 2nd half of the season.
(c) Our weak spot on defense got exposed - secondary. There had been some signs throughout the year that we could be beaten back there (Arkansas, Georgia, Oklahoma) and Clemson was by far the best equipped to do with those WRs and Lawrence and they did.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 8:29 am
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:35 am to Che Boludo
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Venables sign stealing?
We joke but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that LSU staff was warned about Clemson stealing signs before the 2019 game.
ETA: I say Clemson but it was specific to Venables.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 8:36 am
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:41 am to cfish140
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Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:42 am to cfish140
Same goes for 2013 and 2010. Those were three teams Nick underachieved with and it's not even close. We should have had three more NC's with those teams. But it goes to show you the most talented teams don't always win, the teams that play the best on THAT DAY and the team that plays the best AS A TEAM, normally wins.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 8:56 am to TideSaint
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That's fricking rich coming from a LSU fan.
Considering bama fans cry just as much, so just accept it.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:02 am to Frac the world
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Besides Quinnen Williams, that Bama DL was pretty lame and they got their shite pushed in by the Clemson OL all night
Bama was also down to one healthy pass rusher that game. Christian Miller was on a heater late in the season and got injured vs OU. Anfernee Jennings was basically the only experienced guy left.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:04 am to cfish140
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How the hell did Bama not win it all in 2018?
Clemson was loaded in 2018 and 2019 with NFL talent. No shame in losing to that bunch. Saban was outcoached that night as well.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:21 am to cfish140
That was the game that got Willy T poster of the year. His last post before he went on a Bama Clemson meltdown was a gaming board post and then it’s just all bold and underline posts from there. Something broke inside where he just said frick it 
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:25 am to cfish140
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How the hell did Bama not win it all in 2018?
2018 Clemson is underrated in GOAT discussions. Once they gelled with Lawrence at QB, they were pretty damn tough.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 9:26 am to Che Boludo
quote:I think Locksley had checked out as well and was too lazy to make many changes to the signals and game plan going in. He had gotten the Maryland job early December and was i putting together a staff. Some coordinators can handle the transition while still in the postseason. Some put the priority on the new job.
Venables sign stealing?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:05 am to NWLA_Bama
Ahmen 
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But it goes show you the most talented teams don't always win,
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the teams that play the best on THAT DAY
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:32 am to cfish140
Honestly, no matter how good you are, you still need a ton of luck.
LSU has had some monster teams when Bama was rolling. I mean, the blitz on a called screen? Could have easily been checked out of defensively and gone for a massive loss.
AU, without Cam somehow making it to the Plains, was never going to win a Natty (and remember the crazy fumble by Alabama in that Bama/AU game that year?).
That onside kick against Clemson by Bama was perfect (I bet he could only do that maybe 50% of the time). They did that cause they just couldn’t stop them defensively.
Remember Colorado having an additional down?
LSU has had some monster teams when Bama was rolling. I mean, the blitz on a called screen? Could have easily been checked out of defensively and gone for a massive loss.
AU, without Cam somehow making it to the Plains, was never going to win a Natty (and remember the crazy fumble by Alabama in that Bama/AU game that year?).
That onside kick against Clemson by Bama was perfect (I bet he could only do that maybe 50% of the time). They did that cause they just couldn’t stop them defensively.
Remember Colorado having an additional down?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 10:36 am to Ten Bears
quote:My jaw dropped at some of those catches. I was sitting there in awe.
It wasn’t just that, Clemson WRs and TEs, especially Justin Ross made several spectacular catches in clutch situations.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:34 am to skrayper
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how did Alabama go undefeated in regular season in just Saban's second year and go undefeated entirely and win a national title in his third
He had already learned how to orchestrate this college gig while at LSU.
He then went to the NFL because he actually thought his coaching skill had anything to do with the LSU success.
He then tuck-tailed and went back to college where he knew the winning formula - which obviously had nothing to do with his coaching.
He then tuck-tailed again when NIL showed up, knowing that his jig was up.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 11:37 am to MtVernon
Is this what ~20 years of CFB irrelevancy does to a man? Ill start a gofund to get you some puzzi.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 11:38 am
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