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re: Congratulations Missouri Tigers on your brand new 1960 National Championship!!!!!

Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:27 pm to
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This just in: Alabama adds 1945 and 1966 to the list.
As if you people weren't the first SEC program to do this.

When Auburn was screwed out a national championship in 1983, you guys had six national championships (a very impressive number already).

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The 1984 Media Guide: Sports Information Director Wayne Atcheson researched old records and retroactively added five pre-Bryant/early titles (1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, and 1941) to the media guide, bringing the total to 11.


When I returned to Auburn in August of 1984, you guys had 11 national championships. IMO, all were legitimate claims with the exception of 1941...which you should have replaced with 1966...possibly the biggest MNC screwjob of all-time...and this is coming from an Auburn grad.

That is what makes it so comical when bammers want to make fun of Auburn claiming other national championships besides 1957 (my Dad was a QB on that team) and 2010. FTR, while I absolutely agree with claiming 1910, 1913, 1914, 1983 and 2004, I do not agree with claiming 1958 or 1993. In 1958, LSU was undefeated and Auburn had one tie after Dad threw an interception against Georgia Tech late in the game which ended 7-7. In 1993, while we did go undefeated, because of probation, we did not play the SEC Championship game or a bowl game. Had we played both and won, I would agree with the choice.

Just my two cents....
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 4:28 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:35 pm to
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Auburn, like Mizzou, was very late to this party.

Tennessee claimed the 1938, 1940, 1950, and 1967 titles in 1968... after failing to win any major poll title in '67. They just claimed it themselves and decided to claim 4 others they didn't win while at it.

Alabama invented 6 championships in 1983... claiming championships in 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, and 1941 all more than four decades after the fact.

I don't like that Auburn did this... but we are no different than those programs and others who have been doing it for years.


I can at least explain the logic used back when Alabama did it...

In the modern era, all but one (post-1936) are based on winning either the AP or Coaches'/UPI poll. The 1941 is based on the Houlgate system, and to this day I have no idea why Houlgate thinks we were best or why the person who was researching it. My understanding is that Houlgate was pretty respectable at the time, but was definitely a weird miss for our 1941 season; however, that's why we don't claim 1945 nor 1966 - none of the major polls, and not Houlgate (which ended by 1958, so their last champion was LSU) picked us either of those undefeated years. Houlgate *IS* considered a "major" selector by the NCAA, so that may be the reason it was chosen.

The pre-poll titles (1925, 1926, 1930, 1934), the requirements Alabama self-imposed were basically to go undefeated and win or tie the Rose Bowl. Alabama won three of those Rose Bowls and tied one, going 10-0, 9-0-1, 10-0, and 10-0 during those seasons.

Since 1992 it's been Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance / BCS, then playoffs.
Posted by VU fan 43
Virginia
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:48 pm to
If they can claim that then we need to claim our ours. 1921 and 1922 I think.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Before the BCS if you went undefeated and won your conference then I have no problem with a team claiming a natty

That was part of what made college football so fun, in my opinion.
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You know who would LOVE this policy?

Penn State.
Isn't there a year in the 90s Penn State and Nebraska both went undefeated, and they gave the unanimous title to Nebraska? This, after having previous seasons with split titles between Ga Tech and Colorado, and Washington and Miami.

In my mind (having watching that season live), I still think of Penn State as a co-champ too. They had just as good a season, and as I recall that team was loaded.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7408 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 5:00 pm to
Yeah, this is embarrassing.
Posted by n64ra
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 6:53 pm to
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Tennessee claimed the 1938, 1940, 1950, and 1967 titles in 1968

Alabama invented 6 championships in 1983..


Do you have sources for 1968 and 1983 being the years UT and Bama started claiming those? I'm interested in keeping track of the when retroactive claims start.
Posted by everytrueson
Southern California
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 8:01 pm to

Champs baby!

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
55004 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 8:22 pm to
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If Auburn can do it, everyone can play the "Claim your own Championship" game

Except Auburn claimed 9, bitch
Posted by PreacherJoseyWales
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 9:17 pm to
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I know it’s a CBS article and I’m sure Vern and Gary protested it but it’s still an Interesting read. I love Alabama but we started the everyone gets a participation trophy before it became a thing. I love the truth so we really shouldn’t make fun of the barners for simply following our lead.
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
3252 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:00 pm to
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You know who would LOVE this policy? Penn State.

Yeah but Penn State was historically not in a conference so they are disqualified in my opinion

You need to at least win a power conference to have a natty claim
Posted by rexorotten
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by SEC Doctor
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 10:06 pm to
1960 final score:

Kansas 23, Missouri 7
Posted by QBUMizzou
North of the Mason Dixon line
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/29/26 at 1:48 pm to
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Congratulations Missouri Tigers on your brand new 1960 National Championship!!!!!


While retro claims suck, the only game Mizzou lost that year was to a Kansas team that admitted they cheated by using an ineligible player and then delayed the hearing about his ineligibility for months and months. Mizzou went on to beat #4 Navy in a bowl - who just so happened to have the Heisman Trophy winner on their squad that year. So if any other team on this board was under the same circumstances, they would definitely go back and claim that championship. It is accurate to say Mizzou finished with a perfect season. They were the ONLY team to do so.

Here are the others who claim the NC that season.

Minnesota (8–2): Recognized by the Associated Press (AP) Poll, United Press International (UPI) Coaches Poll, and the National Football Foundation (NFF) as the regular-season champion.

Ole Miss (10–0–1): Crowned champion by the Football Writers Association of America (FWAA) and recognized by the College Football Researchers Association after an undefeated season and Sugar Bowl victory.

Washington (10–1): Declared national champion by the Helms Athletic Foundation after defeating Minnesota in the Rose Bowl.

Iowa (8–1): Recognized as champion by the Litkenhous Ratings mathematical system.

Missouri (11–0): Officially recognized by the Poling System as the national champion; this claim was further validated in August 2026 when the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a resolution honoring the team, and Mizzou Athletics announced it would formally honor the squad as national champions.

This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 1:50 pm
Posted by LSUTIGAHS123
Member since Oct 2017
517 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 1:50 pm to
Aggies need to be creative so they can claim a title….
Posted by SoonerKA1999
T-Town
Member since Aug 2021
2290 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:32 am to
LOL! Pathetic. Mizzery is on the same level of Pokie State now.
Posted by SoonerKA1999
T-Town
Member since Aug 2021
2290 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:38 am to
Yep.

Lost to Kansas 7 to 23

Posted by SoonerKA1999
T-Town
Member since Aug 2021
2290 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 7:41 am to
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There’s an entire book on the 1960 Missouri Football team. They went 11-0, won the Big 8, and beat a Top 5 Navy squad in the Orange Bowl


So there is an entire book that rewrites history? Got it.



SPORTS REFERENCE MISSOURI FOOTBALL 1960 SCHEDULE
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 9:32 am to
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Auburn, like Mizzou, was very late to this party.

This is true. While gay, others have been doing it for a while.
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
3482 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 10:29 am to
They got nailed by Kansas but were awarded a win on some technicality. Not a legit claim
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 10:41 am to
Use of an ineligible player is a technicality.


What is the Rant arguing about again?
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