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re: Congratulations Missouri Tigers on your brand new 1960 National Championship!!!!!

Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:27 pm to
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This just in: Alabama adds 1945 and 1966 to the list.
As if you people weren't the first SEC program to do this.

When Auburn was screwed out a national championship in 1983, you guys had six national championships (a very impressive number already).

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The 1984 Media Guide: Sports Information Director Wayne Atcheson researched old records and retroactively added five pre-Bryant/early titles (1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, and 1941) to the media guide, bringing the total to 11.


When I returned to Auburn in August of 1984, you guys had 11 national championships. IMO, all were legitimate claims with the exception of 1941...which you should have replaced with 1966...possibly the biggest MNC screwjob of all-time...and this is coming from an Auburn grad.

That is what makes it so comical when bammers want to make fun of Auburn claiming other national championships besides 1957 (my Dad was a QB on that team) and 2010. FTR, while I absolutely agree with claiming 1910, 1913, 1914, 1983 and 2004, I do not agree with claiming 1958 or 1993. In 1958, LSU was undefeated and Auburn had one tie after Dad threw an interception against Georgia Tech late in the game which ended 7-7. In 1993, while we did go undefeated, because of probation, we did not play the SEC Championship game or a bowl game. Had we played both and won, I would agree with the choice.

Just my two cents....
This post was edited on 8/28/26 at 4:28 pm
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35944 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:35 pm to
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Auburn, like Mizzou, was very late to this party.

Tennessee claimed the 1938, 1940, 1950, and 1967 titles in 1968... after failing to win any major poll title in '67. They just claimed it themselves and decided to claim 4 others they didn't win while at it.

Alabama invented 6 championships in 1983... claiming championships in 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, and 1941 all more than four decades after the fact.

I don't like that Auburn did this... but we are no different than those programs and others who have been doing it for years.


I can at least explain the logic used back when Alabama did it...

In the modern era, all but one (post-1936) are based on winning either the AP or Coaches'/UPI poll. The 1941 is based on the Houlgate system, and to this day I have no idea why Houlgate thinks we were best or why the person who was researching it. My understanding is that Houlgate was pretty respectable at the time, but was definitely a weird miss for our 1941 season; however, that's why we don't claim 1945 nor 1966 - none of the major polls, and not Houlgate (which ended by 1958, so their last champion was LSU) picked us either of those undefeated years. Houlgate *IS* considered a "major" selector by the NCAA, so that may be the reason it was chosen.

The pre-poll titles (1925, 1926, 1930, 1934), the requirements Alabama self-imposed were basically to go undefeated and win or tie the Rose Bowl. Alabama won three of those Rose Bowls and tied one, going 10-0, 9-0-1, 10-0, and 10-0 during those seasons.

Since 1992 it's been Bowl Coalition / Bowl Alliance / BCS, then playoffs.
Posted by VU fan 43
Virginia
Member since May 2014
438 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:48 pm to
If they can claim that then we need to claim our ours. 1921 and 1922 I think.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
24000 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
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Before the BCS if you went undefeated and won your conference then I have no problem with a team claiming a natty

That was part of what made college football so fun, in my opinion.
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You know who would LOVE this policy?

Penn State.
Isn't there a year in the 90s Penn State and Nebraska both went undefeated, and they gave the unanimous title to Nebraska? This, after having previous seasons with split titles between Ga Tech and Colorado, and Washington and Miami.

In my mind (having watching that season live), I still think of Penn State as a co-champ too. They had just as good a season, and as I recall that team was loaded.
Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
7351 posts
Posted on 8/28/26 at 5:00 pm to
Yeah, this is embarrassing.
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