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Its ok we replace them with coaches who can at least make the postseason. I know thats a tall task for LSU
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re: Most college baseball wins since 2020
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 4:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
Nope 2020 is a date that makes complete sense (start of a decade, season doesnt count cause of the pandemic, last year of no transfer portal or NIL discussions). However, I wish baseball had a postseason in 2020. That was on paper one of Vitellos most stacked squads that had a great chance going to Omaha like we did the next year with a weaker roster. If we had played that year theres no telling how much larger our lead would be on this list
re: How did LSU fans view Lane Kiffin before he ever came to LSU?
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 4:42 pm to SidewalkTiger
You spent 2 hours today talking about Lane Kiffin in a thread I made about Butch Jones. Neither LSU nor Lane Kiffin have anything to do with Butch Jones and Joshua Dobbs yet somehow you brought him into it and argued about TN unfair treatment of him 16 years ago.
You are obsessed with Kiffin and would sell your soul for the chance to suck his penis. You are a freak
You are obsessed with Kiffin and would sell your soul for the chance to suck his penis. You are a freak
I understand what he did there but 2020 is a date that makes sense. The world kinda operates on a pre vs post covid timeline now plus pre 2020 there was no NIL and transfer portal and post 2020 college sports completely changed
What about doug dickey in the 60s?
re: Longest Big 6 Winning Streaks
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 3:21 pm to AUTiger789
Go look at Neyland against the rest in the late 1930s. I have a feeling that's our best shot, but not sure. From what I found looks like between 1938-1940 he won 10 against the big 6, but not sure if it was consecutive
re: Most college baseball wins since 2020
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 3:11 pm to Serraneaux
I dont see anyone catching us soon
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 1:55 pm to Quicksilver
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It appears that a Tennessee fan is trying to tell you.
Shhhhh, she doesn't like it when you point things out. Let her continue to make authoritative statements with zero knowledge of what she is talking about, aside from what ChatGPT says. She will get tired out eventually before looking for something else to biitch about. That or she will go back to flicking her bean to the thought of sleeping with Kiffin
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 1:09 pm to SidewalkTiger
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There was definitely information available
Holy shite i lived through it there wasnt
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I also don't really understand the questions as to whether a coach would come to a program that was under NCAA investigation, as Kiffin was quite literally doing that in going to USC.
Kiffin literally has said he was not informed of how big the NCAA penalties were when he got to USC. His dad backed it up and said their biggest mistake was leaving Tennessee so you are wrong yet again
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you seem to making them a bigger part of the problem, than they actually were
Yes please continue to tell me, a Tennessee fan, what the mindset and reasonings of other tennessee fans at my school and hometown was 16 years ago when I was living there and you werent. Dick
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 12:49 pm to SidewalkTiger
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There are numerous articles from when the investigation was announced that lay out the violations that are being looked into, all relatively minor.
for the last time.
No fan knew about other violations. No fan knew if we were going to be in big trouble over this stuff. No fan knew if another coach would take the job of a program in an NCAA investigation. At the time, Kiffin never answered a single question about why he left. He never even alluded to the possibility of his departure. He just left on a random night after a 3-TD loss in a bowl game the next week. He left us with no recruits, no answers, and no certainty about what would come next. That is why fans rioted, and it would have been the same for any HC in my lifetime of being a TN fan, regardless of whether they were good or bad, because no one knows what a coach's future is after one year so they dont wanna lose a first year HC thats been invested in
All that was known the night people rioted was that our coach left us after one year, and the NCAA is investigating events that occurred during that year. Now fuuck off you flea
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 12:30 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Seems like a concerted effort by Tennessee then, as they were aware of the investigation in at least April of 2009.
That's the stupidest shite I have heard yet, and I have no doubts that UT admin knew things were going on. But the fans (the ones rioting) knew nothing except that the football program was under investigation for violations, and our coach just left without giving any answers. A very fair thing to be angry about
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Several of the earliest violations appear to have taken place in 2008, prior to Kiffin even being hired. It seems likely that the investigation actually started with Pearl and the basketball program.
That's not what was being discussed, and either way, no fan knew anything about that. Hence why I am trying to explain to your pea-sized brain that you are using too much hindsight. Kiffin had been gone for months before any fan knew anything beyond that football was in trouble.
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All of the football violations were relatively minor, hardly worth rioting over.
Nobody knew this at the time you idiot. All that was known was that Kiffin had come and gone, leaving us in trouble with the NCAA and no answers, which is objectively dickhead thing to do
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It also seems like an overreaction as it's pretty common for Tennessee football to be under NCAA investigation.
Tennessee hadn't been in trouble with the NCAA since it had self-reported violations almost 10 years prior, and before that, it had been since 1983. Literally, you could not keep writing more wrong stuff.
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 12:07 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Someone doesn't have to take questions at a press conference necessarily.
Kiffin read a 15-second statement and walked out. That's a reading or prepared statement, not a press conference.
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Why do you blame Lane and O, in totality for this NCAA investigation?
When this story broke, it was all about football, and within a month, Kiffin left. That is when people were "rioting."
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A perusal of news stories from that time indicate that your basketball and baseball programs were also under investigation, with basketball having committed violations as well. The football violations appear to be relatively minor.
The other stuff came out later, and you are using hindsight to talk about the events. It was not until 2011 that we learned what was happening or consequences. At the time, no one knew anything except that Kiffin had left us with football violations and that we could be in trouble, with no answers or HC. I don't understand why it is so hard for you people to understand this
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 11:41 am to SidewalkTiger
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And y'all would have thrown a fit if Heupel left at the end of 2021 too.
We would have thrown a fit if Dooley, Jones, Pruitt, or Heupel left after one year without addressing the fanbase and leaving us with an NCAA investigation. What are you not understanding
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 11:40 am to SidewalkTiger
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Doesn't seem to be true, multiple references to a press conference when I Googled it.
Go watch it:
Reporter: "Hey Lane out of respect for the fans will you answer 3 questions for us?"
Kiffin: Walks out the room
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Most of the quotes from that time speak of being "hurt" and "disappointed". Your comments are revisionist history.
Yes, TN fans were "hurt" and "disappointed" that he left without any answers for us except to enjoy the NCAA investigation.
Why is that so crazy?
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 11:36 am to SidewalkTiger
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No one rioted when Butch Jones left because the program was declining.
No one rioted when Butch Jones left because everyone hated him, and the program was in a worse spot than when he was hired.
Looking at First Year
2021 Heupel: #18
2009 Kiffin: #20
FYI, looking at FEIs, Heupel's highest ranking is higher than any Kiffin team ever lol
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 11:31 am to CatfishJohn
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Then why riot?
From an outsiders perspective, it certainly felt like momentum and Kiffin was going to turn it around. I wonder how much the comments like you gave are leftover copium.
It's obvious why people rioted. The season ended with the NCAA opening an investigation into the program, then we lost our bowl game by 3 TDs, then he left a week later, he left without a press conference or anything, and told all the recruits to follow him. No shite, people were mad at how the season ended, especially after he named his son after the town. Any fanbase would be angry at how that all went down.
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 11:19 am to CatfishJohn
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The signs of improvement were obvious and the program felt like it had positive momentum.
That's just not true at all
We also had some very bad losses that year, players went to jail, and the NCAA started an investigation into our program, so there were no positive feelings at all.
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 11:14 am to SidewalkTiger
lol you really grasp at straws
Guess what, Butch Jones had a FEI of #7 one year at Tennessee, and no one wants him back lol
Guess what, Butch Jones had a FEI of #7 one year at Tennessee, and no one wants him back lol
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 10:57 am to RebelTheBear
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Gene Chizik is easily the best answer here
He still won 8 games twice without Cam
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 9:45 am to ManBearSharkReb
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David Cutcliff -Eli Manning
At least Cutcliffe went 8-4 one year without Eli
re: Coaches who lasted cause of 1 Player
Posted by VFL67 on 7/1/26 at 9:36 am to Night Vision
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How many games did Dobbs cost him?
Dobbs was far from a perfect QB. However, looking at what he was working with as a coach, the fact that he won any game is insane. Given that Butch averaged 2.4 wins a year without Dobbs yet was the coach for 5 years, I think it's safe to say Dobbs extended Butch's career at TN by at least 3 years.
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