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re: Cali just targetted the NCAA by passing legislation to let college athletes make money
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:06 pm to notsince98
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:06 pm to notsince98
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This is a nothingburger. Colleges are voluntarily members of the NCAA. If they are members they have to voluntarily comply or leave.
100% agree, but 100% a court will decide.
There is another side to that. If states follow them in law.
While they may not be in the NCAA they will compete with the NCAA and players.
You are all acting as if the colleges CAN'T PLAY football if they pay players. That's not true.
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:08 pm to NocaHomas Teepee
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There are already college sports not governed by the NCAA.
club sports. That's it.............which are as meaningless as Cali. sports will be if they break away from the NCAA.
There is a reason the Universities have put up with the way the NCAA does business. Don't you think the SEC would have talked the ACC into breaking away from the NCAA long ago if it was feasible? Common sense says..........yes.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:13 pm to Jjdoc
The 1st thing the NCAA can do is take the name off all uniforms in competition. It should already be that way! Then tell NIKE to take a hike putting names on jerseys for sale to the public. Could this not shut down some of the BS?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:13 pm to BamaGradinTn
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They are going to do absolutely zero...nothing, nada, zilch...that will allow male university athletes to make hundreds of thousands of dollars while giving their female athletes virtually nothing.
Wrong, but this isn't about just males to begin with.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:14 pm to MrAUTigers
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So who will govern collegiate sports if the NCAA falls? Every pro sport, high school sport, little league sport has a governing body............but collegiate athletics won't?
Where did I say there would not be a governing body? Please quote me.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:15 pm to tiger_nutz
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You also cant go walking around San Francisco without stepping in human crap or seeing a massive tent city...people are leaving California in droves...CALIFORNIA IS A shite HOLE
Having visited San Diego in 2013 and again this past June, I can attest to the fact that California has transformed into a shithole.
San Diego used to be a beautiful city. Now there are homeless people out the arse there. You can’t walk out of the Westin gaslamp and get fresh air without seeming a homeless guy digging through trash cans and picking out half smoked cigarette butts.
You don’t see shite like this going on in ANY SEC town.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:17 pm to 4Ghost
Not at this point. Now it's about a person and his right to make $.
Cat is out of the bag.
Cat is out of the bag.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:20 pm to Jjdoc
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Now it's about a person and his right to make $.
They have the right to make $. Quit college and get a real job.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:22 pm to Jjdoc
If the NCAA doesn't allow championship sites in states that don't cater to the Alphabet Clown Car club (bathroom laws) do you really think they'd allow California to do this without severe pushback?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:23 pm to Jjdoc
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Thoughts ?
Clemson 'bout to suck arse. Dabo says he will quit coaching if/when this happens.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:23 pm to Jjdoc
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You are all acting as if the colleges CAN'T PLAY football if they pay players. That's not true.
Of course they can play football and pay their players. But if NCAA doesnt allow it, they will have to form their own voluntary members only association to have a governing body.
The courts literally can't do anything about this.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:24 pm to MrAUTigers
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club sports. That's it.............which are as meaningless as Cali. sports will be if they break away from the NCAA.
Smaller schools have organizations like NAIA that are not NCAA sanctioned and do not compete with NCAA schools.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:25 pm to UFMatt
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WTF? US States With the Most Debt Rank ?State Debt Total (Billions) 1 California $152.80 2 New York $139.20 3 Massachusetts $77.00 4 New Jersey $65.90
What do you think debt has to do with overall wealth?
The US debt is $16T. Who do you think is wealthier, the US or California?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:27 pm to MrAUTigers
When the NCAA stopped sponsoring Collegiate Pistol, the NRA became the governing body of the sport. If the NFL wanted to become the sanctioning body for football, I'd be okay with it.
As I've said previously, not too many people actually care how these kids do academically as long as they stay eligible to play on Saturdays. Schools like Alabama use their football team to promote their national brand to get the out of state tuition money. They'd fight it, I'd guess, but I'd also speculate that many G5 schools - especially those in NFL cities or other large urban areas - would be supportive of the change.
As I've said previously, not too many people actually care how these kids do academically as long as they stay eligible to play on Saturdays. Schools like Alabama use their football team to promote their national brand to get the out of state tuition money. They'd fight it, I'd guess, but I'd also speculate that many G5 schools - especially those in NFL cities or other large urban areas - would be supportive of the change.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:29 pm to notsince98
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Smaller schools have organizations like NAIA that are not NCAA sanctioned and do not compete with NCAA schools.
Those schools are lower on the totem poll than D3 schools. That is exactly what Cali. schools would become if they broke from the NCAA.
Like I said earlier........the SEC would have gotten other conferences to break away from the NCAA a long time ago if this was feasible. There is a reason everybody has remained under the NCAA paw.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 1:32 pm to Jjdoc
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The Assembly passed the bill 66-0 on Monday, a few days after the bill got an endorsement from NBA superstar Lebron James, who did not go to college.
So a guy who did not go to college is who we should listen about paying college kids?
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The bill would let college athletes hire agents and be paid for the use of their name, image or likeness.
The problem with pay is as soon as you monetize it, the dregs, agents, gamblers, and fat little girlfriends can all capitalize on the money over the person. With free tuition you can not make that same separation which keeps the wolves at bay.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:13 pm to Cheese Grits
Players already get paid via scholarships. The average D1 tuition, housing, meal plan, books, etc has to be upwards of $50,000 to $75,000 per year. If Cali goes through with this, all players that break the rules will be eneligable. The schools will sue and the Supreme Court will rule that the universities are paying players by means of scholarships. Say what you will about the NCAA, but they will need to win this battle. Otherwise, college athletics will go down the tubes. What's next, high school players, anyone over the age of 18?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:39 pm to Jjdoc
This is like mandatory employer drug tests in Colorado. Just because the state says you can do it doesn't really mean you can do it. Dumb California wasting time again.
How, exactly, would it do that? lol
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And it would stop universities and the NCAA from banning athletes who take the money.
How, exactly, would it do that? lol
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:40 pm to Jjdoc
Couldn't the NCAA just turn around and kick out schools in Cali that adopt these new laws?
Edit: I see I'm late to the thread. Oh well. The point still stands.
Edit: I see I'm late to the thread. Oh well. The point still stands.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:42 pm to AirbusDawg
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Players already get paid via scholarships. The average D1 tuition, housing, meal plan, books, etc has to be upwards of $50,000 to $75,000 per year. If Cali goes through with this, all players that break the rules will be eneligable. The schools will sue and the Supreme Court will rule that the universities are paying players by means of scholarships. Say what you will about the NCAA, but they will need to win this battle. Otherwise, college athletics will go down the tubes. What's next, high school players, anyone over the age of 18?
This guy get's it.
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