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re: Cali just targetted the NCAA by passing legislation to let college athletes make money

Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:46 pm to
CA will start their own league, pay players, get ALL the top talent, NCAA will dissolve after a few years.

I called peak College Football at around 2015
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:54 pm to
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CA will start their own league, pay players, get ALL the top talent


Where are they gonna get the money to pay these players?

They won't be part of any conference TV deal and we all know their attendence and facilities pretty much suck.

I'd love to see the new California "conference" since they won't be able to play teams outside the state or be part of the CFB playoffs or part of the $500 million payout.

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NCAA will dissolve after a few years.


It might be in a different form but it'll be around.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4457 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 2:56 pm to
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don't think you understand how the process works. First, Tua had to make the team, get his shot in the big game, win the championship, THEN his likeness was worth something.

Who the frick would pay for Tua's autograph right out of high school? Maybe you???

Who would pay for it if he hadn't had the opportunity to showcase himself on the big stage?


If boosters are currently giving cars and cash to recruits under the table, when a player can get paid for "his likeness" a booster will simply pay a 5-star QB $50,000 for a polaroid photograph. Until another school's booster offers $60,000. And another $70,000, and so on.

Recruiting will immediately become an open auction.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:02 pm to
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CA will start their own league, pay players, get ALL the top talent


The notion that top rated HS players all over the country are suddenly going to just abandon the NCAA for some upstart league that has sprung out of nothing...with virtually no TV contracts and no way to get them exposure, is just plain silly. And no, no network is going to give them any kind of meaningful contract for a product that isn't a known quantity.

Add in the fact that any player would immediately burn their NCAA eligibility and have nowhere to go when the newly created California Penal League goes belly up. Where are they going to go for the next two or three years until they become NFL draft eligible?

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:03 pm to
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CA will start their own league, pay players, get ALL the top talent, NCAA will dissolve after a few years.

I called peak College Football at around 2015

That appears to be the case.

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Where are they gonna get the money to pay these players?



I give up.

There is no way this will ever work. Boosters don't pay for shite!!!



Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:04 pm to
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Cali just targetted the NCAA by passing legislation to let college athletes make money
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don't think you understand how the process works. First, Tua had to make the team, get his shot in the big game, win the championship, THEN his likeness was worth something.

Who the frick would pay for Tua's autograph right out of high school? Maybe you???

Who would pay for it if he hadn't had the opportunity to showcase himself on the big stage?


If boosters are currently giving cars and cash to recruits under the table, when a player can get paid for "his likeness" a booster will simply pay a 5-star QB $50,000 for a polaroid photograph. Until another school's booster offers $60,000. And another $70,000, and so on.

Recruiting will immediately become an open auction.


As I already mentioned to the other guy...you just mentioned booster, which brings the element of university involvement, which brings in Title IX. So, no.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:06 pm to
California needs to just drop off into the ocean. They are real good at spending everybody's money while the state is drowning in red ink. Now they want to make colleges spend money they don't have. Makes perfect sense.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:06 pm to
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The 1st thing the NCAA can do is take the name off all uniforms in competition. It should already be that way! Then tell NIKE to take a hike putting names on jerseys for sale to the public. Could this not shut down some of the BS?



Certainly, they should let players benefit from their own names and likeness (like EVERY OTHER ATHLETE GENERATING MILLIONS FOR OTHERS).

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:06 pm to
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I give up.



You should.


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There is no way this will ever work. Boosters don't pay for shite!!!


Now you're talking about bringing booster payments to players out in the open, sanctioned by the university and the NCAA.

If you guys don't know anything about Title IX by now, there really is no helping you.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:10 pm to
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give up.

There is no way this will ever work. Boosters don't pay for shite!!!


You can't be this retarded.Any idea how much TV money finances CFB? Even the PAC-10 pays our between $30 to $35 million per team PLUS losing a cut of the $500 million CFB playoff/bowl money.

If you think for a second that "boosters" can make up this gap you have absolutely no idea of the reality of CFB and the expenses involved.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Ollieoxenfree99
Member since Aug 2018
7748 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:14 pm to
Lolol PAC 12 trynna ball.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:16 pm to
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Thoughts?

I'm for it.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30208 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:16 pm to
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The California Assembly has zero jurisdiction over the NCAA. If the NCAA declares ineligible or expels athletes or member institutions that refuse to abide by its rules, the state of California can't do anything about it.
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Right.

Technically, the players can make all the money they want off their likeness already. The NCAA will just not let them be eligible if they do.



Yep. How is this any different from the states that legalized weed? Players can smoke 'em up, but the NCAA will not allow it.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:17 pm to
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If you guys don't know anything about Title IX by now, there really is no helping you.

Title IX is program discrimination and program funding.

I would love to hear your explanation on how Title IX applies here.

Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:26 pm to
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You can't be this retarded


Oh, you'd be surprised how retarded some of these guys can be.

Larry Csonka. Jim Kiick. Paul Warfield. Calvin Hill. Some of the biggest names in the NFL signed contracts to play in the WFL. And Kenny Stabler was coming back to Alabama to play in Birmingham!!! A guaranteed success, right? They'll make a fortune in the new league, right?



"BIRMINGHAM, Ala., Jan. 6, (AP)—A circuit court judge has released Ken Stabler from his contract with the financially troubled Birmingham Americans of the World Football League.

Circuit Court Judge Wiliam Barber ruled today that the Americans breached their contract with the starting quarterback for the Oakland Raiders of the National Football League.

Stabler was to receive $30,000 from the Americans in 1974. He and his attorney, Henry Pitt of Selma, Ala., argued that the team was in arrears in payment of the installment and thus had breached the contract.

Barber said he would not require that the $30,000 be paid by the World Football League champions.

And these were Super Bowl Champion players that signed, not some high school kids that no one except recruiting service junkies knows about.

LINK

But yeah, suddenly a bunch of universities are going to pull out of the NCAA, their cash cow, for an unknown entity, some major network is gonna throw millions at that unknown entity for an unknown product, and a shitload of HS kids are going to suddenly risk their entire future by signing to play.



Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26957 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:30 pm to
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If you guys don't know anything about Title IX by now, there really is no helping you.

Title IX is program discrimination and program funding.

I would love to hear your explanation on how Title IX applies here.


Jesus, did you literally just start following college sports fifteen minutes ago? Boosters officially are part of the program.

And where the frick do you think your female athletes are going to play when they don't have the NCAA? Softball, track, whatever.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:31 pm to
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Lol. It’s one of the wealthiest states in America


LMAO! It's BILLIONS in debt and billions in unfunded pension liabilities.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23993 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:35 pm to
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Thoughts?


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he bill would let college athletes hire agents

That might give me pause on support.

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be paid for the use of their name, image or likeness.


They absolutely should be able to make money off of their names and likeness.

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a few days after the bill got an endorsement from NBA superstar Lebron James

He gets far too much weight in stuff.




I believe this would go into effect five years down the road, if what Moscona on the radio said is accurate. That means it puts the onus on the NCAA to figure something out between now and then. It's pretty much criminal that the NCAA and colleges can make millions every year (football in particular) off these kids, and the kids get in trouble if they make a couple bucks off signing autographs or making appearances.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30208 posts
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:41 pm to
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The bill would let college athletes hire agents and be paid for the use of their name, image or likeness. And it would stop universities and the NCAA from banning athletes who take the money.

How can a California law stop the NCAA from ruling their players ineligible if they break NCAA rules?


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