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re: Cali just targetted the NCAA by passing legislation to let college athletes make money
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:44 pm to BamaGradinTn
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:44 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Boosters officially are part of the program.
I don't think that's true in terms of Title IX.
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Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:45 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Jesus, did you literally just start following college sports fifteen minutes ago? Boosters officially are part of the program
For Title IX purposes?
Show me some case law.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 3:52 pm to Jjdoc
The players will determine what happens next. If players run to those schools then the NCAA will fold trying to bar them, because other states with schools not making the NC now will all start offering money instead. Then we will end up with 2 division until the NCAA has to allow everyone to pay players. The paying division will join up and make its own post season championship if it goes long enough without the NCAA caving. Im for it only to cut out cheating.
The only chance the NCAA has to control it is to somehow get the NFL to bar the players going these places from playing in the NFL and I doubt they do that.
The only chance the NCAA has to control it is to somehow get the NFL to bar the players going these places from playing in the NFL and I doubt they do that.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:03 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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off these kids, and the kids get in trouble if they make a couple bucks off signing autographs or making appearances.
That's not what would happen in reality.You know as well as anybody that a recruit that hasn't even stepped on the field would be getting thousands just to have their picture taken or give an autograph to boosters
Sure, shady stuff is going on now but this will up the ante X10
And speaking of Title IX,I could very well see a star softball player filing suit because her autograph isn't worth as much money as a 5 star recruit who hasn't stepped on campus.
Stranger things have happened ESPECIALLY in California.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:09 pm to RD Dawg
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And speaking of Title IX,I could very well see a star softball player filing suit because her autograph isn't worth as much money as a 5 star recruit who hasn't stepped on campus.
She's welcome to file it. She won't win.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:11 pm to Rabern57
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If players run to those schools then the NCAA will fold trying to bar the California schools because other states with schools not making the NC now will all start offering money instead.
What? Once AGAIN,where are these schools gonna get all this money without TV revenue,CFB playoff and March Madness revenue?
So these schools are gonna field 85 scholarship players plus pay these guys plus pay their coaches millions? Without the millions from TV?Unless these schools have benefactors willing to foot at least $30 million per year it's simply not feasible.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:13 pm to RD Dawg
quote:But everyone will openly do it instead of behind closed doors where only the privileged get away with it. The only down side is that the larger schools will basically split the top players evenly and everyone will basically be about the same. Smaller schools will sink farther behind.
Sure, shady stuff is going on now but this will up the ante X10
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:15 pm to Jjdoc
So glad the California legislature is tackling the difficult questions.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:15 pm to pvilleguru
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She won't win
You know this how?
Do you even realize the scope of title IX and how its been used/misused by the courts and higher education since it was passed 40+ years ago?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:16 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Boosters and tickets. They will make their own championships after awhile. TV media doesn't care about the NCAA. They will air what people want to see to make them money. If that's a school that pays its players then someone will air it and sign them to contracts.
What? Once AGAIN,where are these schools gonna get all this money without TV revenue,CFB playoff and March Madness revenue?
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:20 pm to Rabern57
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But everyone will openly do it instead of behind closed doors where only the privileged get away with it
No they won't.You think every P5 school has passionate donors willing to spend thousands to do this?
And the only the "privileged" get away with it now? Like who?
Bama?
It'll be more curropt than ever
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:22 pm to Rabern57
Pay the players, then take away the scholarships since that’s basically their payment anyway.
Edited to clarify “athletic” scholarships. If they earn academic scholarships based on ACTUAL merit, good for them.
Edited to clarify “athletic” scholarships. If they earn academic scholarships based on ACTUAL merit, good for them.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:31 pm to Rabern57
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Boosters and tickets
What? Schools out there can't draw flies.LMAO!
NO California school can make up the cost of the lost CFB and Basketball TV revenue through "ticket sales and boosters"
Do you not realize it's anywhere between $30 to $45 million that has to be made up?
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that's a school that pays its players then someone will air it and sign them to contracts.
Do you have any idea how many years this will take along the millions lost?
God Almighty, you people have moconcept of the logistics and expenses of big time college athletics.
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:33 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Alot of Boosters are Millionaire and Billionaires. It's pocket change.
No they won't.You think every P5 school has passionate donors willing to spend thousands to do this?
quote:It can only be corrupt if it's breaking the rules. Since paying players wouldn't be against the rules then it wouldn't be corrupt.
It'll more curropt than ever
I'm not for paying players but I'm extremely against schools ruining the game by certain ones tarnishing the record books while nothing can be done against it. But at least this way they can all "cheat" and take away the advantage from the crooked schools and the NCAA favoritisms.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:40 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Not at first but the players will chase the money they are offered til it grows to where they want. The TV money will still be there.
NO California school can make up the cost of the lost CFB and Basketball TV revenue through "ticket sales and boosters"
Do you not realize it's anywhere between $30 to $45 million that has to be made up?
quote:Do you realize how many states aren't relevant in the NCAA enough to care? In football alone you may have 10 states that would favor the NCAA right now.
Do you have any idea how many years this will take along the millions lost?
God Almighty, you people have moconcept of the logistics and expenses of big time college athletics.
The NCAA would be in a mess without all the schools. They need them more than the schools need the NCAA.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:56 pm to Rabern57
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Not at first
Not ever.Its a complete pipe dream.
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The TV money will still be there.
It won't be anything comparable to their current TV deal...not close.
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Do you realize how many states aren't relevant in the NCAA enough to care? In football alone you may have 10 states that would favor the NCAA right now.
Just cause you don't? And it has nothing to do with your fairy tale about a California league that will cost millions that these schools don't have.BTW,I was only referring to the 4 P5
schools out there.Where exactly are schools like San Diego State and Fresno State gonna get their $40 million a year to play in this new league.
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The NCAA would be in a mess without all the schools. They need them more than the schools need the NCAA.
Okay?So you don't like the NCAA.WGAS?
What type of "mess"? And I can guarantee the majority NCAA member institutions like being a part of the organization.The NCAA is their Sugar Daddy.The vast majority of the members are small DIi and DIII schools.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 5:01 pm to Rabern57
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It can only be corrupt if it's breaking the rules. Since paying players wouldn't be against the rules then it wouldn't be corrupt
Paying a player for his "likeness" before he takes a snap? That's not what any of these folks have in mind when they came up with the idea but that's what will happen.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 5:27 pm to Jjdoc
NCAA is a voluntary membership organization. You can opt out at any time.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 5:52 pm to JesusQuintana
I live in Portland and honestly every major west coast city is like this. There are huge homeless problems in all of them and there is shite and broken bottles and needles all over the streets.
Posted on 9/10/19 at 5:58 pm to Capstone2017
NCAA won't ban California because it cannot survive the antitrust lawsuits. There will be a compromise and students nationwide will be able to earn money.
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