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Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:50 am
Posted by ColoradoElkHerd
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:50 am
In 2022, Yale, Harvard, Stanford, and many other law schools and later some medical schools boycotted USNWR because editors were imposing their journalism school bias to reward strategic behavior rather than the full range of academic quality. USNRW is still widely viewed with skepticism by Professors and Deans.

How about posters that want to compare schools get up off their lazy arse and post some actual numbers, like research expenditures, number of Fortune 500 CEO’s, average new graduate salary, bar exam pass rate? Any special designations such as being a designated national biosecurity center?
This post was edited on 6/28/26 at 11:04 am
Posted by VFL67
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:51 am to
Sir this is a wendys
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 10:55 am to
Very little difference from one to the other
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:08 am to
University rankings
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
41263 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:13 am to
The sec rant is a sports forum and Aggie is “wendy’s’ing” about different rankings.


Tells you all you need to know about a school that brags about dumping tons of cash into its football program and can only win meat judging competitions.


The true definition of all hat, no cattle.
Posted by Cimarron
Member since Jun 2024
1175 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 11:14 am to
What really matters is the reputation of the department and its faculty for the subject matter you intend to study. If you were going to study Meteorology, you could do no better than OU. If you were going to study Nuclear Science, you might go to UTK, if no other reason than its ties and proximity to ORNL. For geosciences you'd probably go to Texas. Or Missouri for Journalism.
Posted by Tenn grad LSU fan
Woulhuntdn't you like to know spazz
Member since Apr 2023
1393 posts
Posted on 6/28/26 at 1:34 pm to
Florida should send the caw to another school he is such a negative person
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 6/28/26 at 7:14 pm to
No idea what catalyzed this to be posted on a sports board, but count me as an old Ag that hates how they’ve turned A&M into a glorified diploma mill.

My degree (ME) still holds its own in prestige and rankings reasonably well, but the school as a whole has taken big steps backward.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
3762 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 7:58 am to
Every school has its "academic smack" bullets to fire.

At OU we don't have the typical high rankings... so they toss out stuff like how we are tied with Texas for #1 in the SEC for Rhodes Scholars... or how OU has the biggest dinosaur museum on a college campus...

or the ratings of the library being top 20... They are always bragging on their history of science collection being one of the best. Or how OU has the Nuedstat Prize... which they claim is the most prestigious literary prize in the USA behind the Pulitzer. Of course nobody else in the country has ever heard of it.. But what the heck.
Posted by The_Giving_Tree
Member since Apr 2024
382 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:00 am to
Texas A&M is the new Texas Tech. Speaking of rankings… Aggies even taking the lead in STDs for the state
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18507 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 11:25 am to
quote:

How about posters that want to compare schools get up off their lazy arse and post some actual numbers, like research expenditures, number of Fortune 500 CEO’s, average new graduate salary, bar exam pass rate? Any special designations such as being a designated national biosecurity center?


I am lazy and you should be too, use AI to get your answers. This is Claude. Not a lot of surprises. Not sure CEO numbers is that important, but included for you.



With four criteria each carrying exactly 25% — academic rank, research expenditure, Fortune 500 CEOs, and a salary score — here's how it lands:

Vanderbilt — now clearly #1. Removing social mobility eliminates its only weakness, and its salary dominance (both new grad and mid-career are highest in the SEC) and CEO production (8, most in the conference) push it to the top.
Texas — strong across all four pillars, with no real soft spots.
Texas A&M — research king of the SEC at $1.1B, but its salary numbers and CEO count trail the top two enough to keep it at #3.
Florida — solid research and a decent CEO count, but salary outcomes drag it slightly behind A&M.
Georgia — consistently mid-to-high on every metric without excelling in any single one.

The rest of the conference separates into a clear middle pack (Tennessee, Auburn, Kentucky, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Missouri) and a bottom tier (LSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi State), where modest research budgets and lower salary outcomes compound each other.??????



Here's the clean final ranking across all four equal criteria:

Vanderbilt (TN)
Texas (TX)
Texas A&M (TX)
Florida (FL)
Georgia (GA)
Tennessee (TN)
Auburn (AL)
Kentucky (KY)
Oklahoma (OK)
South Carolina (SC)
Missouri (MO)
LSU (LA)
Alabama (AL)
Arkansas (AR)
Ole Miss (MS)
Mississippi State (MS)

The top five are meaningfully separated from the rest. There's then a fairly tight middle pack from Tennessee down to Missouri, and a bottom four that cluster closely together — all three Mississippi/Alabama schools plus Arkansas — where limited research investment and lower salary outcomes reinforce each other.
Posted by charliethehun
Member since Jul 2021
1806 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:31 pm to
for research numbers, aggy always has to aggy

their research numbers include all of their health science centers (8 locations in the atm system across the state) and some other research done at other campuses

atm college station's campus stand alone research is a much, much lower number

For example, UT's MD Anderson in Houston does more research alone than atm's inflated numbers which include their health science numbers across the state
This post was edited on 6/29/26 at 12:46 pm
Posted by FAT SEXY
California
Member since Jun 2020
2530 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:42 pm to
TAMU is solid in Forestry/Horticulture

I used the AgriLife Extension service several times back in the day per the advice of Neil Sperry
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
109863 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

How about posters that want to compare schools get up off their lazy arse and post some actual numbers, like research expenditures, number of Fortune 500 CEO’s, average new graduate salary, bar exam pass rate? Any special designations such as being a designated national biosecurity center?


How is this relevant to this sports board?
Posted by State Bird
24 years old
Member since Jun 2026
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 1:20 pm to
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prestige





Posted by TheRealTigerHorn
Member since Jun 2023
476 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

I am lazy and you should be too, use AI to get your answers. This is Claude. Not a lot of surprises. Not sure CEO numbers is that important, but included for you.

With four criteria each carrying exactly 25% — academic rank, research expenditure, Fortune 500 CEOs, and a salary score — here's how it lands:


That's a decent cut at it, but it probably over-rewards schools with med schools (that will be the majority of research $ by a good bit) and doesn't take into account how some schools pool their research & endowment $ across both med and rest of the university, while others don't. Examples:

- Texas seldom counts its various med schools, but if you did, their research $ would dwarf the rest of the SEC, possibly combined. I believe Vandy does count their med school research. LSU does sometimes as well.

- Alabama likes to count the endowments for UAB (BIG med school endowment) and UAH when reporting their total endowment numbers.

- CEO count changes regularly, and usually misses some CEOs of very big privately held companies. Also, CEOs are almost always counted for the last school attended, so if you got your undergrad at LSU then a Harvard MBA, you would be counted as a Harvard alum, not as a LSU alum, by the outfits that rank these sorts of things.

Even so, I think the overall grouping is about right, with Tennessee and Auburn knocking on the door to enter the top group.
Posted by StreamsOfWhiskey
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Jun 2013
952 posts
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:58 pm to
I agree with this
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29681 posts
Posted on 7/2/26 at 11:20 am to
Now I want a Frostie...damnit
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
29681 posts
Posted on 7/3/26 at 9:16 pm to
In that case..can I get a medium Frosty?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/3/26 at 9:24 pm to
I hate the offseason
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