re: Better football tradition Tennessee or Texas

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Their money train keeps them relevant.

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And their time machine.

Yup, Sooner has it backwards.. can’t stand that they are dominant with a bunch of great TX kids.

Plucking DKR is payback if anything.

Tejas

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And so does Tucker Frederickson in the 1964 Iron Bowl. Game ends in a 21-21 tie.
Arkansas wins the NC as the only team with a perfect record.

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Yea, uh... we did win the NC as the only team with a perfect record, thanks to Texas beating Alabama in the Orange Bowl.

Arkansas 11-0
Alabama 10-1
Texas 10-1

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When I was growing up and a little kid (90's), I'd say Tennessee. Now, it's Texas. Historically, it's Texas as well.

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When I was growing up in the 70's and 80's, I'd have said Texas in a landslide. Despite it's recent success, I still don't think Texas has ever returned to it's former glory as a national contender every year.

While Tennessee has 2 poll era national titles based on the major, most recognized selectors, they have 6 national championship worthy seasons.

1938 undefeated, #2, various selectors

1939 undefeated regular season, #2

1940 undefeated regular season, #4

1950 Head-to-Head over UK with same amount of losses makes TN have a better case for NC

1951 AP & UPI National Champion

1998 BCS & AP National Champion

Vols have had many great years. Historically they are a tradition rich and accomplished program, 2007 and back.


Texas is also a solid program over the years. 4 poll era national titles, with NC opportunities in 1977, 1983, 2008, 2009.


I’d give a slight edge to Tennessee, IMO. But, overall it’s close.



Generally speaking when having these debates, the National Championship count doesn’t become the deciding factor.

Georgia, LSU, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, Michigan, Clemson, Florida, Penn State, Washington, UCLA, Michigan State, Pittsburgh are great examples of long term success, and have consistently accomplished more such as conference titles, winning seasons, Bowl consistency, etc; but all have less poll era National Championships than Minnesota which has 4 AP titles; and the Gophers powerhouse status has been gone since the 60s. The teams above are better historically despite lesser recognized national titles.

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Texas is 7-1-1 all time against Bama.

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That maybe, but

Alabama has 17 National Titles, 12 in the poll era
Texas has 4 National Tiles, all 4 in the poll era (3 in the 60's and one in 2005)

Honestly, if you were to ask a Texas fan if they would trade that series record for the National Title record they would trade in a heart beat.....

Besides, Alabama is the one with a winning record over every team they have played 10 or more times, not Texas....

Based on the records for teh two schools, Texas's program is a pale shadow of Alabama's

As it should be....

It is overrated for actual production as a state for college football.

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Top-5 Finishes in AP Poll 31... Oklahoma 26... Ohio State 24... Alabama 23 .. Notre Dame 20 .. Texas 18 .. USC 17 .. Florida State 15 .. Michigan 14 .. Penn State 13 .. Nebraska 13 .. Tennessee 3... Texas A&M

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Wait, we are allowed to post facts here?

It's Texas. They are a legit blue blood, Tenn is just outside the club and moving further and further away. Through the 90s Tenn was almost Bama's equal regionally, but almost always gagged on the big stage, hence their 8-12 major bowl record, Neyland 3-6. Whereas, Bama usually came up big on the biggest stages, gave legitimacy to the South beginning in the 20s, etc. Since then Tenn has disappeared and Bama has reassumed its larger than life presence.

Btw, Texas does have 4 NCs, Tenn has only 2.