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re: A clearer picture regarding LSU and the rumors around private equity is emerging

Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by Capn_Bevo
Austin
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:48 pm to
This fund is obviously going to grow over time as annual TV revenues and investment income is added. Greg Williams' 7% is going to be massive in 5 or 10 years. It's a great deal for him.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72956 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:50 pm to
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So they are just going to take the $100 million and spend it? You have made multiple posts saying they will invest it.


Hence the reason I said details have to be missing. It doesn't make sense for either side unless the entity can somehow get a higher ROI than the investor can on their own, which I doubt.

If they're receiving the $100M up front and then paying out TV revenue to basically pay that back, then you aren't generating income which is the stated goal.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
Member since Sep 2021
888 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:51 pm to
fricking told you.

Dishonest dealings.

Not a “private equity” firm.

Mortgaging the program.

A terrible deal. A loss for LSU and all of CFB
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72956 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:51 pm to
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This fund is obviously going to grow over time as annual TV revenues and investment income is added. 


It can't if you're paying out the TV incomes as profit every year, which was the assumption of the Alabama poster.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
15926 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:53 pm to
LSU doesn’t have the leverage in this deal, they need the money
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 5:54 pm
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
7188 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:55 pm to
Kiffin trying to get double the nil for the next 5 years. And buy some natties. Too bad he always chokes. And then lsu sold off 20% of their revenue while already having budgets deficits.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
72956 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 5:58 pm to
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LSU doesn’t have the leverage in this deal, they need the money


They don't get any money they wouldn't have received otherwise in the scenario presented here.
Posted by JayAg
Member since Jun 2021
15926 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:03 pm to
Kiffin is spending money like he is still at Ole Miss needing to outbid blue bloods and rich schools for players. He has the LSU brand, past NCs and NFL player success to use instead of money as a recruiting tool.

He can’t just keep shaming the school he’s employed in for NIL money if he doesn’t succeed, or keep trolling every other school’s recruiting wins online with the “they spent more money” every time he doesn’t get a player.

He used to publicly shame Ole Miss for money in interviews, used the threat of leaving for another school too.
Posted by Demosthenian
Zetto, Granite Bowl, & points btwn
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Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:04 pm to
Happy to clarify for you.

Williams gives $100mm.

Williams gets 7% of “profits”, which is a squishy term, as you can manually alter what items qualify as “revenue” and which items qualify as “expenses”, but the concept is he’ll get 7% of annual cash flow the entity produces, net of the operating costs to run it on a year-to-year basis.

Williams also gets 9% ownership of the entity. So the proportion he’s entitled to get each year in distributions is actually different than his % ownership, which is a little different for your average investor buying a dividend stock, where ownership = proportion of the dividend you get. Why these two figures differ is unclear, but there are many reasons (for example: minimum governance participation he required for voting, but LSU didn’t want to give away that much in net profits.)

LSU’s entire goal here is to use the $100mm to repay their contractual obligations (contract salaries, buyouts, future player compensation, program operating costs, etc.) it’s their hope they can invest the balance of the $100mm they haven’t yet spent (likely in tax-free bonds, maybe equities) to continue growing that amount over time to stay ahead of the net funding shortfall between the payment obligations they owe (enumerated above) and the net cash flow they’ll be bringing in (as an SEC affiliate, media rights, etc.)

These mortgage financings rarely work to get borrowers of the hole they find themselves in.

This is the exact kind of loan sharking people want to denigrate the private equity community for doing. When in fact, as we see here, any lender can demand these types of terms. Indeed, these terms are simply “market standard”, which means that if LSU is seeking financial support for their program, they have no way of avoiding this usurious bargain.
This post was edited on 8/9/26 at 6:20 pm
Posted by Rebelinexile
Member since Oct 2021
290 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:05 pm to
Perhaps LSU athletics has debt they
need to roll over but current interest
rates are prohibitive. This deal robs Peter to pay Paul. They pay off their
high interest debt now and it only costs
them a percentage of future revenue
in perpetuity.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
12355 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:12 pm to
Yep. These PE companies / institutional investors are beholden to their own investors and board members. They are investing in this deal because they see a quick path to profitability on their $100 million investment.

And just like their other investments, they aren't going to particularly care about the well-being of the target so long as they get their profit.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
25273 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:13 pm to
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How does that make sense?


They need $25-35 million to break even this year and essentially make payroll.

Boosters are tapped out and just can’t/won’t donate another $30ish million dollars.

Some savvy booster says “hey, I’ve got an idea…”

People and institutions can do strange things when they are desperate for money.
Posted by Capn_Bevo
Austin
Member since Jan 2019
1437 posts
Posted on 8/9/26 at 6:14 pm to
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It can't if you're paying out the TV incomes as profit every year, which was the assumption of the Alabama poster.
I don't know about the Alabama poster. Do you think it's going to remain stagnant? 7% of income will be paid out each year.
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