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re: 8 Team CFP this year
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:19 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:19 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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. A loss in that game would drop us to 4 at the lowest. No way we drop from #1 to #5. None.
An undefeated Wisconsin, undefeated Miami, 1 lose Big XII champ OU and 1 lose SEC champ Georgia would be ahead of Alabama. It's an unlikely scenario but possible.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:21 pm to TigerProwl24
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So, a one loss Wisconsin gets left out. I would agree with that due to their strength of schedule..
Yea - in that scenario they don't have an Ohio State win so their resume is :
> 9-3 Northwetsern
> 8-4 Michigan
> 6-6 Iowa
> 6-6 Purdue
> 9-3 FAU
Pretty shaky compared to Georgia and Miami, even with 1 less loss.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:22 pm to TheXman
I also wouldn't be opposed to a 12-team playoff where the Top 4 teams get a bye. Would heavily give you a good reason to play hard through the end of the year to get that Top 4 seed. Even with 12 teams most everyone would get covered.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:22 pm to TigerProwl24
UGA is a year away from what? Have you seen the number of jrs and srs they're playing?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:23 pm to TheXman
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It's an unlikely scenario but possible.
Anything is possible. The only way a 12-0 Alabama team (if we can somehow beat Auburn) is left out is if the committee decided to move us down to #2 after Saturday. We absolutely could drop from #2 to #5 with a loss in the SEC championship game. I wouldn’t even have a problem with that. But considering we play the #6 team a victory no matter how small is not likely to drop us from #1 to #2. A #1 12-1 Alabama ain’t falling from #1 to #5. Sorry.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:25 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Yea - if we beat Auburn and LSU and State win out and we finish the year with 3 Top 15 wins (plus the possibility of a 4th Top 25 win if Fresno wins out), 2 of them on the road, and our 1 loss is a close loss to a Playoff team at a neutral site...............
That'd be tough to leave us out. But, there would still be scenarios where it could happen.
That'd be tough to leave us out. But, there would still be scenarios where it could happen.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:27 pm to tigercreole
UGA is a year away from the playoffs.. Since LSU changed staffs, they have been on a recruiting downturn, recruiting a lot of 3 stars. Since UGA changed staffs, they have been on the upswing, recruiting quality 4 and 5 stars. UGA will be really good for the foreseeable future.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:28 pm to TigerProwl24
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UGA is a year away from the playoffs.. Since LSU changed staffs, they have been on a recruiting downturn, recruiting a lot of 3 stars. Since UGA changed staffs, they have been on the upswing, recruiting quality 4 and 5 stars. UGA will be really good for the foreseeable future.
LSU's class will finish Top 10, and you should probably check out 2019 class. Definitely not on a downswing. In-state talent in LA for 2018 is just pretty bad.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:29 pm to thunderbird1100
You have commits other top schools, like AU/Bama/UGA wouldn't take..
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:30 pm to SidewalkDawg
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might as well just forfeit.
So just re-use the exact game plan from the AU game?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:31 pm to TigerProwl24
When LSU goes 6-6 next season, we'll see how strong that 2019 class is..
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:38 pm to TigerProwl24
I used to not want 8, but I think the 4-team playoff makes the product deteriorate during the season. 30 or so teams drop from contention every month, and have little incentive to compete after 2 losses. A 2nd loss is for all intents and purposes the end of the season.
By the time the Playoff rankings arrive in October, no one outside the top 25 is still in contention and after Thanksgiving weekend even some Conference Championship games won't affect the playoff standings.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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My perfect scenario is moving to 8 and doing it in this way :
- P5 conference champions IF ranked in the Top 10
I am against a spot automatically going to a conference champ if we expand but that scenario I could live with.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:41 pm to TideWarrior
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I am against a spot automatically going to a conference champ if we expand but that scenario I could live with.
Same here. And this wouldn't be a new idea. They've had the "must be ranked at least X" carrot in there for Group of 5 teams for years. No reason it couldn't be used for P5 Conference Champions.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:43 pm to Jake_LaMotta
Based on what…?
The CFB metrics uses the following categories to rank comparable teams (from committee web site):
1. Total Performance.
2. Conference Championships Won.
3. Strength of Schedule.
4. Head to head results.
5. Results vs common opponents.
If you lose the SEC championship game to a one loss Georgia and Miami/Clemson, Oklahoma, Wisconsin all win out I don’t see you getting in. You will be out in 2, 4, and probably 3 against Georgia, and 2, 3 with all the others (4 & 5 not applicable as they will not apply).
Hocutt, chair for last year’s CFP Committee, I believe was on XM the other day and said by-laws stipulate you must take a conference champion over a non-conference champion if records are equal. Though I can’t find this to verify it.
The CFB metrics uses the following categories to rank comparable teams (from committee web site):
1. Total Performance.
2. Conference Championships Won.
3. Strength of Schedule.
4. Head to head results.
5. Results vs common opponents.
If you lose the SEC championship game to a one loss Georgia and Miami/Clemson, Oklahoma, Wisconsin all win out I don’t see you getting in. You will be out in 2, 4, and probably 3 against Georgia, and 2, 3 with all the others (4 & 5 not applicable as they will not apply).
Hocutt, chair for last year’s CFP Committee, I believe was on XM the other day and said by-laws stipulate you must take a conference champion over a non-conference champion if records are equal. Though I can’t find this to verify it.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:46 pm to thunderbird1100
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Get rid of 1 OOC game, go back to 11 game season.
First off lets completely dispel the notion that the schools or the NCAA has any desire to do anything that doesn't maximize their revenue. You want 100+ member schools to give up a 12th revenue generating game because the internet want a larger playoff. When you talk about SEC schools you're looking at millions of dollars per home game lost to the local economies. Would the league want to trade 12 extra home games a year for the possibility you might get 2 or 3 teams in the playoff. That will be a hard sell to convince so many teams to trade guaranteed revenue for the possibility of a couple of playoff spots. The playoff would have to generate enough revenue for all the schools in the conferences to make up not only lost revenue directly to the schools but lost revenue from the surrounding local economies because of the deduction of number of visitors.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:46 pm to TideWarrior
These final 2 weeks will be interesting. You figure OU wins out they are in and the winner of CU/Miami are in but after that not sure.
If AU beats UA CU & Miami should be 1 & 2 going into championship weekend, with OU and Wisc 3 & 4. OU beats TCU they are in. Wisc beats OSU and stays undefeated they are in. Miami loses a close game to CU I could see them dropping to 4 and going in if the winner of the SEC has 2 losses.
If AU beats UA CU & Miami should be 1 & 2 going into championship weekend, with OU and Wisc 3 & 4. OU beats TCU they are in. Wisc beats OSU and stays undefeated they are in. Miami loses a close game to CU I could see them dropping to 4 and going in if the winner of the SEC has 2 losses.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:51 pm to thunderbird1100
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thunderbird1100
UGA recruiting is much much better then LSU over the past 2 cycles, and the gape will widen in 2019
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