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re: If you could hire Van Horn, would you?
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:44 pm to SaDub225
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:44 pm to SaDub225
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What are we arguing here??
The whole point of this thread was about how he underachieves then someone pointed out how he won the SEC this year despite being picked 3rd in his own division. If anything it sounds like he overachieved.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:50 pm to alpinetiger
quote:Some of you have literally no idea how many stars have to align to actually win a national title. And it shows. It’s probably not a coincidence that the No. 1 overall seed has only won the cws once in the current ncaa postseason format, and that was the first year in 1999.
All he does is underachieve.
As of July 24, 2021 there’s probably not a single program that wouldn’t trade their recent success for Arkansas’ sans Vanderbilt.
DVH is doing a great job and has catapulted that program since he took over
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:53 pm to gohogs141
quote:I guarantee you nobody realistically thought a team would go undefeated in regular season series this year in the power 5. Much less the sec. yes they overachieved.
If anything it sounds like he overachieved.
Unfortunately, they ran into a team too hot (which still hasn’t lost since btw). That’s baseball for ya. Cruel game
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:57 pm to SaDub225
quote:Just say cock you fricking pussy.
Once you take his co** out your mouth
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:57 pm to SaDub225
Now you’re just being childish.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 2:52 pm to gohogs141
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The whole point of this thread was about how he underachieves then someone pointed out how he won the SEC this year despite being picked 3rd in his own division. If anything it sounds like he overachieved.
No the point of the thread was whether you would hire DVH… then I said that I don’t discredit him or think he’s a bad coach; I just wouldn’t want to hire him because he has now shown twice that he can’t handle the big time pressure on the big stage. Arguably one of his most talented teams in 2018; choked in the finals. And then arguably one of his most polished/successful teams this year, lost in the supers after being out-coached. From an outsiders perspective; and not having a Razorback bias; those 2 examples bring up some glaring question marks about DVH… you have to start to wonder; if he could not win it all with either of those 2 teams; then how good does a team have to be, to win it under DVH?
Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:08 pm to alpinetiger
He's way better than the guy LSU got.
You seem to not realize the team was not the same after the SEC tournament. Too many holes to fill. He did a magnificent job navigating that through the regular season. They put 21 runs on NC State and lost the last 2 games by 1 run and that team is the hottest in the nation. One of those last 2 games could have gone either way. It sucks it didn't but that's baseball.
Baum started out holding about 4k. DVH elevated that program to huge heights. Have you seen the Baum atmosphere lately? They are pretty much reloading every year now. This thread is dumb as hell.
You seem to not realize the team was not the same after the SEC tournament. Too many holes to fill. He did a magnificent job navigating that through the regular season. They put 21 runs on NC State and lost the last 2 games by 1 run and that team is the hottest in the nation. One of those last 2 games could have gone either way. It sucks it didn't but that's baseball.
Baum started out holding about 4k. DVH elevated that program to huge heights. Have you seen the Baum atmosphere lately? They are pretty much reloading every year now. This thread is dumb as hell.
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:10 pm to AUCE05
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 4:51 pm to Fletch1985
I would put Arkansas baseball in the upper tier of programs where recruiting shouldn't be an issue. Take Corbin/Vandy. Going way back with Derek Johnson, their program is built on elite pitching. Van Horn seems to have a great hitting team one year, maybe a decent pitching the next. No consistency. Even this last year he relied on Kobbs way too much. I don't think he makes the jump to elite coach until he locks the pitching recruiting down and develops them each year.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:02 pm to AUCE05
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:17 pm to alpinetiger
Yes. Yes I fricking would.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 7:45 pm to SaDub225
This Arkansas team would be considered one of the greats in Arkansas history...but they didn't make it to Omaha and so the other 10 teams that made it, had better seasons.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:11 pm to Fletch1985
Wicklander fell off because he was a diabetic and didn't even know it, that is understandable.
Noland looked like he got tips from Bert at the golden corral. Beer gut at age 20. I don't think it was from lack of development but questionable work ethic.
Noland looked like he got tips from Bert at the golden corral. Beer gut at age 20. I don't think it was from lack of development but questionable work ethic.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:15 pm to gohogs141
Dave did get SEC coach of the year. Sometimes those are given to coaches that did overachieve.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:17 pm to SaDub225
It took DVH almost 20 years to get to the big stage as he inherited a program that lacked historical success.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:26 pm to SaDub225
I'm not talking a bout Arkansas on paper which they would be considered one of the best in the SEC but the amount of highly potential draft prospects which is low.
The 2019 Vandy and 2009 LSU teams were simply more talented than this Arkansas team that shouldn't have done as well as they had.
After awhile people are going to look back and see how good of a job DVH did with this team.
The 2019 Vandy and 2009 LSU teams were simply more talented than this Arkansas team that shouldn't have done as well as they had.
After awhile people are going to look back and see how good of a job DVH did with this team.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 8:28 pm to Pygthagorean Theorem
Pitching issues were a serious problem, Arkansas began the season without a Friday starter.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:02 pm to dchog
Let's just look at the thread title.
DVH has taking Nebraska (of all fricking places) and Arkansas to 8 CWS appearances, and without a fluke play would have a national title.
There is no fricking program in America that would not hire a coach with that resume.
None. Underachieve perception or not, anyone would hire him if they could.
The answer to the dumb fricking question is yes, you hire him if you could.
DVH has taking Nebraska (of all fricking places) and Arkansas to 8 CWS appearances, and without a fluke play would have a national title.
There is no fricking program in America that would not hire a coach with that resume.
None. Underachieve perception or not, anyone would hire him if they could.
The answer to the dumb fricking question is yes, you hire him if you could.
Posted on 6/25/21 at 9:34 pm to alpinetiger
Van horn is one of the best. Prob put him top tier sec.
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