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re: If you could hire Van Horn, would you?

Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:53 pm to
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I guess this is your first year to ever watch college baseball.


Only second ever team in SEC history to win all conference series...
Won conference outright and rolled through the sec tournament undefeated... (That’s only been done 3 times by the way)
Led league in home runs.
But sure smart arse; please educate me on some other teams in recent history with those accolades…. I’ll wait...
so since Arkansas is your favorite team; and you didn’t even know the rarity of what all they accomplished this year; then I should be the one assuming that this is your first year to ever watch college baseball.

Yalls team this year, despite getting sent home packing in the supers; was still arguably one of Arkansas’ most successful seasons in recent history.
The 2018 team that choked in the CWS finals; may have been more talented than this years team; but even they didn’t dominate the SEC like Arkansas did this year.
You have to be blinded by anger and bitterness; to try and argue that this 2021 team wasn’t one of the most successful teams in recent Arkansas history.
Posted by Hailstate15
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Member since Nov 2018
21466 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Only second ever team in SEC history to win all conference series..


Because of DVH.
Posted by lastfan
Houston
Member since Nov 2015
7732 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:56 pm to
Threads like this one are embarrassing. If you wonder why other fan bases attack us so much, it’s because of crap like this.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19091 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 12:58 pm to
Yep, we had a good year, but I understand how baseball can work. Notice there are no undefeated teams?

Study the history of the game and get back to me Einstein.


And calm down,it's just a message board.
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:00 pm to
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One of the best teams in recent SEC history? That is the first I heard of that.


Please, I beg of you; to name more than 2 other teams that did what Arkansas did this year in the SEC.

Here I’ll help you out;
I’ll name one; Vandy. 2019.
Before 2019 vandy; you have to go back 12 years to find the next team that almost did what Arkansas did this year. That was 2009 lsu and even they shared a regular season title with Ole Miss that year.

Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19091 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:02 pm to
Thanks for noticing.
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:03 pm to
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Because of DVH.


Yeah he has shown that he can coach teams to historic regular seasons. But it’s jsut my opinion; I realize others opinion may differ from mine; but IMO I just wouldn’t want him that much because he has now shown a consistency to choke on the big stage. Or it’s like the pressure gets to him or something but he jsut doesn’t have the “it factor” that a coach/team needs to win it all.
Posted by Hailstate15
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Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:04 pm to
His team shouldnt have won shite this season. They had no pitching. He managed them to perfection basically
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
7842 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Only second ever team in SEC history to win all conference series..


And this 2021 team was projected by coaches to finish 3rd or 4th in the West
This post was edited on 6/25/21 at 1:09 pm
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:09 pm to
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Study the history of the game and get back to me Einstein.


Why would I do that? I already know what I need to know to have this argument with you… matter of fact I’m not even sure what your argument is…
No one is questioning whether or not he is a good coach; the question is whether I would want my team to hire him… and in my opinion; I wouldn’t want him…. I’ve had enough of my share of heartbreak and disappointment. Having a super talented team that should win it all; only to choke when it matters… being a Saints fan; I’ve had enough of that to last me the rest of my life.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19091 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:11 pm to
His team couldn't have Dave, so Dave sucks.

Makes sense, he didn't want Dave no way.
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:21 pm to
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And this 2021 team was projected by coaches to finish 3rd or 4th in the West


What are we arguing here?? I still haven’t heard y’all give me a solid counterpoint to the main reason why I wouldn’t want to hire him. I’m not trying to discredit DVH or say he is a bad coach, etc. nothing like that. So exceeding preseason projections and all that isn’t going to change my opinion. If I wanted to hire a coach that could bring me consistent winning seasons; or if my program needed a rebuild and I wanted to hire a coach that could bring my team consistent and sustainable success; then I’d hire DVH no doubt…. But I’m wanting to hire a guy that has shown he can handle the pressure and win when all lights are on him. DVH has folded twice now. In 2018, the talent on that team was absurd. They should’ve walked home with a ring that year. But it’s baseball so I gave DVH the benefit of the doubt after that fluke error; knowing it could’ve happened to any team. But this year; how do I ignore this year? He showed what he could do by dominating the SEC. and even by raking NC state the first game. But then to lose the next 2… and such close games that (admit it or not, support DVH or not) he got out-coached in. That series kind of reaffirmed my opinion.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6541 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:22 pm to
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Idk what the hell y’all are smoking, but DVH is a good coach. Arkansas had like 3 dependable pitchers all season
goddamn right

The only pitchers we had that could go more than 2 innings were:
Wicklander
Kopps
Pallette

When Pallette got hurt we were doomed. Tony LaRussa couldn't have won the CWS with just two pitchers.
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:24 pm to
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His team couldn't have Dave, so Dave sucks. Makes sense, he didn't want Dave no way.


Lmmfao. Solid argument here bud. Very intelligent response, lmao.
This is the response that people tend to give whenever they’re stumped. And can’t think of anything else
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19091 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:27 pm to
Then I wasn't wrong?
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19091 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:32 pm to
In order to put your mind at rest, there is zero chance Dave would leave to go your school. So rest easy and find something else to occupy your day.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16277 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:33 pm to
Underachieve relative to what?
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:37 pm to
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Then I wasn't wrong?


You sound extremely childish… you haven’t even replied yet with anything intelligent or informative; much less debatable… the Mississippi state guy; has had better and more intelligent responses than you have; and he has no dog in the fight. You’d think with DVH being the coach of your team; you’d have some solid and logical reasons; but none.
You should thank the Mississippi state fan for carrying you. Second time miss st steps up after Arkansas embarrasses’….
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:39 pm to
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In order to put your mind at rest, there is zero chance Dave would leave to go your school. So rest easy and find something else to occupy your day.


Hahaha ive already laid out multiple; multiple reasons why I wouldn’t want DVH. Once you take his co** out your mouth and his balls are no longer blocking your eyesight; maybe You can read all the reasons why I don’t/wouldn’t want him….
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42557 posts
Posted on 6/25/21 at 1:40 pm to
Yes. Now I do have some criticism of how he builds a team and his decision making deep in tournaments, but I think he is top 10 coach.
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