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The Texas Aggies did not get screwed out of the CFP... Kinda
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:53 am
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:53 am
I’ve read a lot of differing opinions on whether or not A&M “got screwed” and it seems that the prevailing opinion is, yeah, kinda… I haven’t seen one single A&M fan claim that we deserved to get in based 100% on our resume, the argument has largely been that A&M deserved to get in because OSU’s schedule is steaming pile of shite (even if they are likely one of the 4 best teams) and ND getting beat down by Clemson TWO DAYS AGO should prove that they’re NOT one of the 4 best teams.
Both of those arguments are very logical, but ultimately, they are subjective. A&M didn’t prove beyond doubt that they’re one of the 4 best teams, namely because when you get beat by 28 at any point in the season by any team, the whole argument of “getting screwed” out of a playoff spot goes out the window. Full stop.
The other prevailing thought seems to be that the playoff committee is corrupt, plays favorites, and if given the chance they will absolutely cater to the traditional blue bloods. My biggest regret, and it should be your too if you’re a real fan of college football, is that the Aggies didn’t make the game closer with Bama. Had A&M only lost by 1-2 scores, I think it would have changed the argument for A&M being one of the 4 best teams, definitively. That would have exposed the committee for what they are, but A&M didn’t get the job done.
So as an A&M graduate, donor, and rabid fan, do I think that we “got screwed”? Nope, we lost by 28 to a conference opponent, once that happened any legitimate gripe of being a top 4 team got thrown out the window. Do I think A&M is one of the 4 best teams, absolutely, I’m not sold on ND or OSU, but I don’t get a vote so all I can do is bitch on a message board.
Both of those arguments are very logical, but ultimately, they are subjective. A&M didn’t prove beyond doubt that they’re one of the 4 best teams, namely because when you get beat by 28 at any point in the season by any team, the whole argument of “getting screwed” out of a playoff spot goes out the window. Full stop.
The other prevailing thought seems to be that the playoff committee is corrupt, plays favorites, and if given the chance they will absolutely cater to the traditional blue bloods. My biggest regret, and it should be your too if you’re a real fan of college football, is that the Aggies didn’t make the game closer with Bama. Had A&M only lost by 1-2 scores, I think it would have changed the argument for A&M being one of the 4 best teams, definitively. That would have exposed the committee for what they are, but A&M didn’t get the job done.
So as an A&M graduate, donor, and rabid fan, do I think that we “got screwed”? Nope, we lost by 28 to a conference opponent, once that happened any legitimate gripe of being a top 4 team got thrown out the window. Do I think A&M is one of the 4 best teams, absolutely, I’m not sold on ND or OSU, but I don’t get a vote so all I can do is bitch on a message board.
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:55 am to AggieJohn06
SEC should have had A&M play UGA last Staurday. I believe an A&M would have put them in the playoffs over ND. An A&M loss would have knocked them out.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:56 am to AggieJohn06
You got a friend in Germey:
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Jeremy Pruitt, Tennessee
1. Alabama
2. Texas A&M
3. Clemson
4. Ohio State
5. Notre Dame
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:58 am to AggieJohn06
A&M had a case but it wasn't a slam dunk. tOSU is the one that doesn't belong.
If not A&M this was the year to put in a G5.
If not A&M this was the year to put in a G5.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 10:59 am to r2d2
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If not A&M this was the year to put in a G5.
Agree.
Remove OSU and put in Aggie or Cincy.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:00 am to 19
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Jeremy Pruitt, Tennessee
1. Alabama
2. Texas A&M
3. Clemson
4. Ohio State
5. Notre Dame
Telling coming that the coach of the team that had just played A&M. Ags are absolutely suffocating in the trenches. Alabama has the horses to negate that advantage and it showed in our game against them, but I'm not sure anyone else in CFB this year can say the same.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:03 am to Toroballistic
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SEC should have had A&M play UGA last Staurday. I believe an A&M would have put them in the playoffs over ND. An A&M loss would have knocked them out.
I disagree, I think A&M could have scheduled the Green Bay Packers and even if they would have won it wouldn't have been enough. From what I've seen of the selection committee, a team like A&M is systematically eliminated with one loss, where a team like ND would have to lose 2 to be eliminated. OSU likely would have been knocked out had they lost to NW, but if they were 9-0 instead of 5-0 going into that game, they might have got in with a loss. They're a blue blood, and in a normal year, they need two big marks against them to be left out. A team like A&M only gets one strike.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:06 am to AggieJohn06
When the CFP got started they said the mission was to select the "four best teams." To me that means the four best teams at the end of the season. I am not sure what it means to the committee.
Winning a conference championship is only important when the committee wants it to be important, at other times the totally ignore it.
Notre Dame and Ohio St are darlings of the media and they will always outpoll everyone else, especially Notre Dame. Can you imagine an SEC team losing their CCG the way ND did and still being selected? No, I can't either.
If games were scheduled this weekend, I would pick Florida and Texas A&M over Notre Dame and Ohio State played in any order.
I am a Georgia fan but I don't let bias cloud my view of anything I see on the field.
Winning a conference championship is only important when the committee wants it to be important, at other times the totally ignore it.
Notre Dame and Ohio St are darlings of the media and they will always outpoll everyone else, especially Notre Dame. Can you imagine an SEC team losing their CCG the way ND did and still being selected? No, I can't either.
If games were scheduled this weekend, I would pick Florida and Texas A&M over Notre Dame and Ohio State played in any order.
I am a Georgia fan but I don't let bias cloud my view of anything I see on the field.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:06 am to AggieJohn06
I don't have any hate for ND. They played the games...
OSU, on the other hand... They and their conference didn't even want to have a season until the SEC, ACC and even the Big XII made them look bad by starting up. The B1G was dragged kicking and screaming into the season. Then the conference changes rules on minimum number of games. Then the conference changes rules for contact tracing.
It's laughable. OSU and anyone from B1G simply doesn't belong.
OSU, on the other hand... They and their conference didn't even want to have a season until the SEC, ACC and even the Big XII made them look bad by starting up. The B1G was dragged kicking and screaming into the season. Then the conference changes rules on minimum number of games. Then the conference changes rules for contact tracing.
It's laughable. OSU and anyone from B1G simply doesn't belong.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:07 am to Toroballistic
quote:I think the real problem was Bama in the #1 slot. Regardless of what they say, I don't believe for a second that the committee ignores matchups when they do their ranking. Given a choice between pretty evenly matched A&M and ND teams, selecting the one that wasn't a rematch was the tie breaker. If it had been Clemson in the #1 spot, with a choice between ND and A&M, I think A&M would have been the choice.
SEC should have had A&M play UGA last Staurday. I believe an A&M would have put them in the playoffs over ND. An A&M loss would have knocked them out.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:27 am to AggieJohn06
quote:dint think there is much doubt that a&m wood have given Clemson more trouble than ND did in that second game.
and ND getting beat down by Clemson TWO DAYS AGO should prove that they’re NOT one of the 4 best teams.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:36 am to AggieJohn06
The bigger gripe should be with OSU than with ND. They basically had the rules changed for them from a league that was set on not even having a football season 3-4 months ago. And even though they were undefeated, they got the benefit of the doubt because of past seasons. Didn't see Cinci or Coastal get that treatment. Nor would USC have had they finished the job.
ND is a good team, and their resume was almost identical to A&M's imho. I'm sure politics played into the decision on who got in.
A&M has gotten it worse than any No. 5 team since the first year when Baylor and TCU were told no. They need to hope for a performance like TCU had in their NY6 game and not the performance Baylor had in their's
ND is a good team, and their resume was almost identical to A&M's imho. I'm sure politics played into the decision on who got in.
A&M has gotten it worse than any No. 5 team since the first year when Baylor and TCU were told no. They need to hope for a performance like TCU had in their NY6 game and not the performance Baylor had in their's
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:56 am to ThrGbagman
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But what if we beat Texas A&M?
Then there would be no bitching from A&M fans about being left out.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:57 am to AggieJohn06
17-12 vs Vandy. 'Nuff said.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:59 am to XWing atAliciousness
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The bigger gripe should be with OSU than with ND
The gripe with OSU being in is more about 2020 and the utter lack of transparency of the committee. If the committee's goal is to put the 4 best teams in the playoff, then yeah, even at 6-0 OSU has a legitimate case. IMHO I don't think it was the committee's job to "punish" the big10/OSU for making bad decisions in a effed up year, but it would have been damned nice to see them take that responsibility. The argument against ND is stronger because it more definitively more apparent that they're not one of the 4 best teams.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:05 pm to AggieJohn06
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I disagree, I think A&M could have scheduled the Green Bay Packers and even if they would have won it wouldn't have been enough. From what I've seen of the selection committee, a team like A&M is systematically eliminated with one loss, where a team like ND would have to lose 2 to be eliminated. OSU likely would have been knocked out had they lost to NW, but if they were 9-0 instead of 5-0 going into that game, they might have got in with a loss. They're a blue blood, and in a normal year, they need two big marks against them to be left out. A team like A&M only gets one strike.
Yeah, I agree. This whole thing stinks of ESPN's influence for markets. I'm all for giving an excellent program a break but tOSU was given too big a spot this year.
Remember the end of October, they were ranked in the top 5, hadn't played a game ... while others were half-way through their season?
Should've put Vandy in the playoff ... before they retired their award winning SEC kicker's uniform (rather costume) to the hall-of-fame.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:08 pm to AggieJohn06
I understand A&M being pissed. Is the fan base of the team that comes in 5th ever not pissed? But the truth is you have legitimate arguments for ND, A&M, OSU and even Cinci. And just as many legitimate arguments against any of those teams. There is just no way you can sit here and say any of those teams were screwed. It sucks if you're a fan of A&M, but you can point to getting blasted by Bama, Florida not showing up against LSU, and LSU and Auburn being way down this year.
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:14 pm to AggieJohn06
If you want to b*tch about anyone, it should be ND sliding in
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:26 pm to bunkerhill
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If games were scheduled this weekend, I would pick Florida and Texas A&M over Notre Dame and Ohio State played in any order.
Me too.....I think Florida and TAM handle ND fairly easily and have no idea what they might do against OSU since OSU has only played 6 games....2 of which they looked very beatable in....
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:30 pm to Onyx Aggie
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But what if we beat Texas A&M?
Then there would be no bitching from A&M fans about being left out.
Noooooo....but, given the fact that the committee just supposes OSU is one of the 4 best teams with only 6 games under their belt Georgia fans would be bitching about "suppose if Newman had played" or "Suppose if Daniels" had played against Bama and Florida....I know we would because some are doing it anyway LOL....its just a cluster frick all the way around. I think anyone not named Clemson or Bama should just be glad they had a season at all, maybe look forward to one more game and get on with life. TAM got fricked, no question in my mind, but what are you going to do???
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