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Enough is enough already. Definitive Chubb vs Fournette info inside

Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:49 am
Posted by MrTwoBits
Member since Oct 2013
657 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:49 am
I don't post a ton, but I've gotten pretty tired of seeing the LSU whiners keep thinking LF is God's gift to the tailback position. Even worse, they think he's better than unquestionably the best back in the league going into 2015. So I figured I'd put some black and white facts out there to see what possible way people choose to spin them.


LF 2014 Stats:
187 att, 1034 yards (5.5 average)
10 TDs
7 Rec for 127 yards and 0 Tds

NC 2014 Stats:
219 att, 1547 yards (7.1 average)
14 TDs
18 Rec for 213 yards and 2 Tds


Top 5 Rushing games in '14:

LF-
146 - aTm
143- ND
140- UF
122- NMSU
113- OM

NC-
266- UL
202- Ark
170- UK
156- UF
144- AU


Potential to improve is one thing, but I don't see any reasonable, rational, logical reason why anybody would proclaim that as of right now in summer of 2015 that fournette is the better back. He isn't.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14539 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:50 am to
STATS!1
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:50 am to
Chubb is better. I don't think anyone is arguing with that buddy. This shite was random
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
Member since Sep 2012
24941 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:51 am to
lol @ definitive chubb
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15846 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:52 am to
quote:

fournette is the better back. He isn't.



Why can't we just be reasonable and say that both have the potential to be amazing. They are completely different systems and share different workloads and coaching philosophies. Fournette is an outstanding back who has the potential to be as good as his body allows him to be.

This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 9:54 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Potential to improve is one thing, but I don't see any reasonable, rational, logical reason why anybody would proclaim that as of right now in summer of 2015 that fournette is the better back. He isn't.



You don't see any reason? Really? How about the efficiency with which both teams passed the ball. You might not agree, and that is fine, but you have to admit that on that basis alone one could argue that Fournette is better. It would be the argument of them swapping teams. Just a thought.
Posted by hg
Member since Jun 2009
123866 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:53 am to
Hope you feel better after posting this.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
51012 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:54 am to
Facts
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:54 am to
Either player would be coveted by any other team. Chubb is better.

It's like asking which roll in the sack with Salma Hayek or Sofia Vergara is better?

Both would be outstanding.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105550 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:56 am to
They are both going to be good. Eye test suggests Chubb looked best and stats confirm it. Let's watch their careers since they will both be around the same time.

A good old Bo vs Herschel happening here, it's going to be fun to watch.
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 9:58 am to
Went through this shite last offseason too, except it was BamaDoc arguing incessantly that Bama's RBs were better than UGA's. Some people just can't take their homer glasses off.
Posted by blackmamba
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
765 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:00 am to
Stats are fun to look at and all, but Fournette went up against a stacked box on every carry. Not saying either is better because they are both monsters but your stats don't mean anything IMO.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44337 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:03 am to
This board better hope LF doesn't explode this year and out-produce Chubb. If he does, the influx of LSU fans coming here to start threads about it will make this place a nightmare.

I don't expect Fournette to have better numbers, but if he does this place is going to see an avalanche of shitty threads.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:07 am to
The population of Georgia is greater than Louisiana. The Population of New York is greater than Boston. Georgia fans have to like Yankees better than red sox.

Chubb is better than Fournette and Georgia fans cannot be Red Sox Fans also.

Chubb = Yankees
Fournette = red sox
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79512 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:13 am to
quote:

Potential to improve is one thing, but I don't see any reasonable, rational, logical reason why anybody would proclaim that as of right now in summer of 2015 that fournette is the better back. He isn't.



Even LSU fans don't believe it.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
19207 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:18 am to
Good stats Two Bits, but the LF homers have already seen all of that and have dismissed them. They have to because, on paper it's not close. On film it's not close. On stats against the same team (see LF v. Arkansas and NC v. Arkansas) it's not close. On stats that you haven't mentioned (# of starts - LF started more games than NC) it's not close.

Compare league awards and it's not close. NC = All SEC 1st Team and Freshman of the Year. LF = nada.

They will claim reality doesn't matter because LF faced a stacked defense every play. Ignoring the fact that NC faced the same thing. Heck, the longest pass completion by UGA all last year was 50 yards - thrown by Todd Gurley.

So, anyway, fine work on the OP. But a select few very 'special' LSU homers will simply dismiss them just because.
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 10:20 am
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9064 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:20 am to
Fournette's carries were split more between Hilliard, Magee, and Darryl Williams . Chubb was really good but Gurley didn't split as much time. I expect Fournette's stats to be higher as the main guy
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 10:22 am
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25684 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:20 am to
This post was edited on 5/13/15 at 10:21 am
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:26 am to
quote:

I don't post a ton, but I've gotten pretty tired of seeing the LSU whiners keep thinking LF is God's gift to the tailback position. Even worse, they think he's better than unquestionably the best back in the league going into 2015.



He just finished his true freshman season in which he broke the LSU freshman single season rushing record. And yet you act as if its completely unfathomable for us to think he might be the best back in the SEC.


Chubb has better stats last year, congrats. They both still have two yeas of college ball left though so lets she how it finishes out before we rush to make a definitive case.

Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96071 posts
Posted on 5/13/15 at 10:27 am to
i have no problem saying Chubb had a better season than Fournette. I think both are going to be great. LSU has a lot more pressing issues than worrying if we have the best RB in the nation or one that is just top 5.
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