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re: People who cry about Cal/UK cheating

Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:09 am to
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:09 am to
Cat's Pause from 1985

Oh,and 100.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:10 am to
UK/Cal cheats just like Bama cheats. Some programs are just willing to fork out the most money for the most success.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30745 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:32 am to
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UK/Cal cheats just like Bama cheats. Some programs are just willing to fork out the most money for the most success.

It's always been that way, hasn't it? I never understand why some fans get so damn pissed about cheating, over-signing, processing players, etc.......

I pay good money to be entertained, and I want to see competitive team take the field/court. Anthony Grant can't get it done - I wanted him replaced last season.

If you're a fan of a program that refuses to up the ante and get the best product available then you should STFU about that specific teams means of acquiring their success and learn to deal with it.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
146728 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:33 am to
It's about damn time a&m basketball has decided to ante up
Posted by BigBlue8Titles
Kentucky
Member since Nov 2014
2475 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 11:41 am to
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Cat's Pause from 1985 Oh,and 100.


Wow, every player cited in the article denied saying what he was quoted as saying. Normally, I would be skeptical of that but knowing, over a lifetime, what big hacks work at the Lexington Herald-Leader, it doesn't surprise me at all. If all this was going on and they had all this evidence, then why wasn't UK even cited for violations by the NCAA for all this stuff? They weren't, even though the NCAA was looking for anyway possible to get UK, and that speaks volumns
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:24 pm to
Son, if you don't understand his is where the NCAA makes all their money, and why UNC was not placed on probation for he scandal of the century, then I cant help you.

Cal and Kansas, UNC etc. all besides Duke pays AAU coaches to guide players to their programs.

The NCAA could wipe this out by out lawing any AAU player from getting a scholarship.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20001 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:32 pm to
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He's an excellent coach. He got good players to come to Memphis and UMass.


This is what opposing fans cannot accept. ON the telecast last Saturday when UK went 25-0 they said this was the 5th time a Cal coached team had won 25 straight...

As Larry the Cable Guy says that's pretty dam good - I don't care who you are.
Posted by lsufancy63
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
796 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:34 pm to
I agree with all of this and that everyone cheats, however some cheat a hell of a lot more than others and that is why they eventually get their arse caught!!!!
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30745 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 12:44 pm to
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I agree with all of this and that everyone cheats, however some cheat a hell of a lot more than others and that is why they eventually get their arse caught!!!!

Very few can calibrate the machine well enough to keep the winning % up AND keep the NCAA looking elsewhere. IMO, the age and experience Calipari & Saban bring to the game, coupled with UA/UK branding is what takes them over the top and keep them consistant.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:03 pm to
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what big hacks work at the Lexington Herald-Leader


The worst enemy of the UK Athletics program is the LHL. I know other universities bemoan their local rags, but the LHL has to be one of the most offensive "supporters" of UK.

The Three Stooges - Mark Story, John Clay and Jerry Tipton - are far more diligent in their pursuit of UK than the NCAA ever was.
Posted by arkyhawk
SWMO
Member since Jan 2013
8116 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:08 pm to
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This is what opposing fans cannot accept. ON the telecast last Saturday when UK went 25-0 they said this was the 5th time a Cal coached team had won 25 straight...



...2 of which had wins vacated
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17892 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

The Three Stooges - Mark Story, John Clay and Jerry Tipton - are far more diligent in their pursuit of UK than the NCAA ever was.


Was one of them on hot pursuit when BCG got fired? That famous vid with him faking being on the phone was epic. Chasing him down the hall LMAO.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70044 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:11 pm to
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are far more diligent in their pursuit of UK than the NCAA ever was.


I would like to donate to their cause.
Posted by FIRE Kim Anderson
Colorado
Member since Feb 2015
13 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:23 pm to
I agree its a simple formula.
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2629 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:25 pm to
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0 allegations or suspicious activities that have come to surface out of UK during his tenure.
quote:

Everyone fricking cheats


So thats one allegation....
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19958 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:33 pm to
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To my knowledge, there have been 0 allegations or suspicious activities that have come to surface out of UK during his tenure.


The allegations/findings are never made public while Calipari is at the school. They seem to come to the surface right after he leaves:

Cal coached at UMASS from 88-96 - after he left, the NCAA investigated UMASS because Marcus Camby accepted $40,000. They vacated UMASS' 1996 NCAA Tournament wins.

Cal coached at Memphis from '00-'09 - After he left the NCAA investigated Derrick Rose has someone else take his SAT. Memphis had to vacate their entire '07-'08 season (in which they finished as NCAA runner-up).

Stuff will arise at Kentucky about a week after Calipari has bolted back to the NBA.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
42235 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Stuff will arise at Kentucky about a week after Calipari has bolted back to the NBA


Willing to bet stuff will come out with Donnie at UT before Cal.

You Vol fans are like my buddy who follows UT from Nashville. Squawking like y'all how Cal was going to get UK in trouble 5 years ago…lets say that noise stop when Pearl left in shame.

Keep hating haters.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
70044 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Good point Mike

Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17892 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:48 pm to
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Stuff will arise at Kentucky about a week after Calipari has bolted back to the NBA.


And the NCAA will do nothing except maybe vacate a few wins, possibly their NC, which they have plenty to donate and then they'll move on and hire whoever they want.

Whats the point of bitching? Oh yea, they have Cal and you wound up with Thumb Guy as your coach, who has as much baggage as Cal, just not nearly as many wins.
This post was edited on 2/17/15 at 1:49 pm
Posted by oman
Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
3280 posts
Posted on 2/17/15 at 1:48 pm to
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