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Just throwing up a quick formula that rewards 1 point for each NCAA Tournament appearance, 3 points for each College World Series appearance, and 10 points for each national title, it looks like this:

I think SEC titles should count 2 points as well

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Posted by charliethehun

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:03 am to BigBro

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Texas = 231 in this calculation

63 NCAA appearances = 63
36 trips to Omaha = 108
6 National Titles = 60

Texas actually has 38 trips to Omaha

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Posted by Gnash

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:08 am to BigBro

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Texas = 231 in this calculation

And OU with 92 would rank #3

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Posted by Vandyrone

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:12 am to Farmer1906

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Point for Appearance
2 Points for Super
3 Points for WS
4 Points for Runner Up
10 Points for a title

This. Some factor of not just going 2 and Q in Omaha

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Posted by CarolinaGamecock99

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:26 am to Granola

We have 2 titles and 4 runner ups. Have the most consecutive postseason wins in ncaa history and most consecutive wins in Omaha.

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Posted by bigDgator

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Member since Oct 2008

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:47 am to Granola

It's very difficult to measure baseball teams historically. Should we include conference titles other than the SEC?

Alabama: 1st season 1892
All-Time Record: 2,762-1,738-24
SEC Record: 999-894-5
SEC Championships: 14
SEC Tournament Appearances: 31
SEC Tournament Championships: 7
NCAA Regional Appearances: 26
NCAA Regional Championships: 8
Super Regional Appearances: 4
Super Regional Championships: 1
College World Series Appearances: 5
National Championships: 0

Arkansas: 1st season 1897
All-Time Record: 2,392-1,461-6
SEC Record: 477-423
SEC Championships: 4
SEC Tournament Appearances: 27
SEC Tournament Championships: 1
NCAA Regional Appearances: 33
NCAA Regional Championships: 13
Super Regional Appearances: 10
Super Regional Championships: 6
College World Series Appearances: 11
National Championships: 0

Auburn: 1st season 1895
All-Time Record: 2,596-1,754-34
SEC Record: 958-897-3
SEC Championships: 6
SEC Tournament Appearances: 30
SEC Tournament Championships: 3
NCAA Regional Appearances: 24
NCAA Regional Championships: 7
Super Regional Appearances: 4
Super Regional Championships: 2
College World Series Appearances: 6
National Championships: 0

Florida: 1st season 1912
All-Time Record: 2,735-1,667-24
SEC Record: 1079-717-2
SEC Championships: 16
SEC Tournament Appearances: 42
SEC Tournament Championships: 7
NCAA Regional Appearances: 38
NCAA Regional Championships: 15
Super Regional Appearances: 11
Super Regional Championships: 9
College World Series Appearances: 13
National Championships: 1

Georgia: 1st season 1885
All-Time Record: 2,416-1,855-24
SEC Record: 862-986-4
SEC Championships: 6
SEC Tournament Appearances: 28
SEC Tournament Championships: 0
NCAA Regional Appearances: 14
NCAA Regional Championships: 6
Super Regional Appearances: 4
Super Regional Championships: 4
College World Series Appearances: 6
National Championships: 1

Kentucky: 1st season 1896
All-Time Record: 2,055-1,926-25
SEC Record: 788-1,029-8
SEC Championships: 1
SEC Tournament Appearances: 24
SEC Tournament Championships: 7
NCAA Regional Appearances: 10
NCAA Regional Championships: 2
Super Regional Appearances: 2
Super Regional Championships: 0
College World Series Appearances: 0
National Championships: 0

LSU: 1st season 1893
All-Time Record: 2,773-1,694-31
SEC Record: 1,034-822-9
SEC Championships: 17
SEC Tournament Appearances: 37
SEC Tournament Championships: 12
NCAA Regional Appearances: 35
NCAA Regional Championships: 26
Super Regional Appearances: 16
Super Regional Championships: 9
College World Series Appearances: 19
National Championships: 7

Ole Miss: 1st season 1893
All-Time Record: 2,352-1,685-20
SEC Record: 888-1,011-2
SEC Championships: 7
SEC Tournament Appearances: 26
SEC Tournament Championships: 3
NCAA Regional Appearances: 25
NCAA Regional Championships: 12
Super Regional Appearances: 8
Super Regional Championships: 2
College World Series Appearances: 6
National Championships: 1

Mississippi State: 1st season 1885
All-Time Record: 2,807-1,654-29
SEC Record: 996-875-3
SEC Championships: 11
SEC Tournament Appearances: 35
SEC Tournament Championships: 7
NCAA Regional Appearances: 39
NCAA Regional Championships: 16
Super Regional Appearances: 10
Super Regional Championships: 5
College World Series Appearances: 12
National Championships: 1

Missouri: 1st season 1891
All-Time Record: 2,442-1,693-21
SEC Record: 107-192-1
SEC Championships: 0
SEC Tournament Appearances: 7
SEC Tournament Championships: 0
NCAA Regional Appearances: 22
NCAA Regional Championships: 1
Super Regional Appearances: 1
Super Regional Championships: 0
College World Series Appearances: 6
National Championships: 1

South Carolina: 1st season 1892
All-Time Record: 2,747-1,663-17
SEC Record: 502-403-1
SEC Championships: 3
SEC Tournament Appearances: 30
SEC Tournament Championships: 1
NCAA Regional Appearances: 34
NCAA Regional Championships: 19
Super Regional Appearances: 14
Super Regional Championships: 6
College World Series Appearances: 11
National Championships: 2

Tennessee: 1st season 1897
All-Time Record: 2,238-1,675-14
SEC Record: 807-936-1
SEC Championships: 4
SEC Tournament Appearances: 19
SEC Tournament Championships: 4
NCAA Regional Appearances: 13
NCAA Regional Championships: 6
Super Regional Appearances: 5
Super Regional Championships: 4
College World Series Appearances: 6
National Championships: 0

Texas A&M: 1st season 1876
All-Time Record: 2,860-1,604-43
SEC Record: 152-144-1
SEC Championships: 0
SEC Tournament Appearances: 9
SEC Tournament Championships: 1
NCAA Regional Appearances: 37
NCAA Regional Championships: 10
Super Regional Appearances: 9
Super Regional Championships: 4
College World Series Appearances: 7
National Championships: 0

Vanderbilt: 1st season 1886
All-Time Record: 2,499-1,832-33
SEC Record: 743-958-10
SEC Championships: 3
SEC Tournament Appearances: 27
SEC Tournament Championships: 6
NCAA Regional Appearances: 21
NCAA Regional Championships: 10
Super Regional Appearances: 10
Super Regional Championships: 4
College World Series Appearances: 5
National Championships: 2

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Posted by AUTiger789

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:51 am to Granola

So I looked at how things look just in the Super Regional Era (1999-2023):

1 pt for a season ending with an NCAA Regional loss
2 pts for a season ending with a loss in the Super Regionals
5 pts for a season ending with a loss in the CWS, but not making it to the Championship series
8 pts for a seasons ending with a loss in the Championship Series
20 pts for a season ending with a National title

1. LSU- 112
2. Texas- 102
3. S Carolina- 87
4. Florida- 83
5. Vanderbilt- 79
6. Miss St- 60
7. Arkansas- 55
8. Ole Miss- 48
9. Texas A&M- 39
10. Oklahoma- 29
11. Georgia- 26
12. Tennessee- 24
13. Auburn- 23
14. Alabama- 21
15. Missouri- 9
16. Kentucky- 8

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Posted by Insurancerebel

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:53 am to AUTiger789

quote:
Just throwing up a quick formula that rewards 1 point for each NCAA Tournament appearance, 3 points for each College World Series appearance, and 10 points for each national title, it looks like this:

1. LSU- 162
2. S Carolina- 87
2. Florida- 87
4. Miss St- 85
5. Arkansas- 67
6. Texas A&M- 58
7. Vanderbilt- 56
8. Ole Miss- 53
9. Missouri- 50
10. Georgia- 43
11. Auburn- 42
12. Alabama- 41
13. Tennessee- 31
14. Kentucky- 8

Seems legit. Considering Ole miss didn't really start caring about baseball until 2003 or so.

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Posted by Insurancerebel

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 9:58 am to bigDgator

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Ole Miss: 1st season 1893
All-Time Record: 2,352-1,685-20
SEC Record: 888-1,011-2
SEC Championships: 7
SEC Tournament Appearances: 26
SEC Tournament Championships: 3
NCAA Regional Appearances: 25
NCAA Regional Championships: 12
Super Regional Appearances: 8
Super Regional Championships: 2
College World Series Appearances: 2
National Championships: 1

Not accurate...

Ole Miss has 6 CWS appearances

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Posted by BigBro

Member since Jul 2021

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:01 am to AUTiger789

quote:
So I looked at how things look just in the Super Regional Era (1999-2023):

This is a pretty good list. The only tweak I would make would require a lot of work, and I'm not sure it is worth the effort.

There is a big difference between 2 & Q and finishing in 3rd place..
but there is no difference in the number of points you would receive in your calculation.

Therefore.. maybe something like this..

1 pt for a season ending with an NCAA Regional loss
2 pts for a season ending with a loss in the Super Regionals
4 pts for a season ending in 7th Place
6 pts for a season ending in 5th Place
8 pts for a season ending in 3rd Place
10 pts for a season ending in 2nd Place
20 pts for a season ending in 1st Place

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Posted by bigDgator

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Member since Oct 2008

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:03 am to Insurancerebel

quote:
Not accurate...

Ole Miss has 6 CWS appearances

Thanks, corrected.

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Posted by JetDawg

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Member since Oct 2020

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:04 am to Granola

Including Texas and Oklahoma...........

"Historically by success" is defined by more than just CWS titles, although that's the ultimate award. Overall winning, appearances in the CWS, conference titles, etc., must be taken into account.

Therefore, JetDawg's ranking of the most successful baseball programs within the SEC are...................

#1 -- Texas (38 appearances, 6x CWS champs)
#2 -- LSU (19 appearances, 7x CWS champs)
#3 -- Oklahoma (11 appearances, 2x CWS champs)
#4 -- South Carolina (11 appearances, 2x CWS champs)
#5 -- Florida (13 appearances, 1x CWS champ)
#6 -- Mississippi State (12 appearances, 1x CWS champ)
#7 -- Vanderbilt (5 appearances, 2x CWS champs)
#8 -- Georgia (6 appearances, 1x CWS champs
#9 -- Arkansas (11 appearances, 2x CWS runner-ups)
#10 - Alabama (5 appearances, 2x CWS runner-ups)

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Posted by bigDgator

Dallas, TX

Member since Oct 2008

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:08 am to Insurancerebel

quote:
Not accurate...

Ole Miss has 6 CWS appearances

FYI, my info is from the SEC Network, which I would think gets it straight from the SEC. Interesting.

LINK

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Posted by Insurancerebel

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Member since Aug 2021

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:10 am to JetDawg

OLE MISS would be tied with UGA according to those metrics, booting the gumps out of top 10

quote:

Therefore, JetDawg's ranking of the most successful baseball programs within the SEC are...................

#1 -- Texas (38 appearances, 6x CWS champs)
#2 -- LSU (19 appearances, 7x CWS champs)
#3 -- Oklahoma (11 appearances, 2x CWS champs)
#4 -- South Carolina (11 appearances, 2x CWS champs)
#5 -- Florida (13 appearances, 1x CWS champ)
#6 -- Mississippi State (12 appearances, 1x CWS champ)
#7 -- Vanderbilt (5 appearances, 2x CWS champs)
#8- Ole Miss ( 6 appearances 1 x CWS
#8 -- Georgia (6 appearances, 1x CWS champs
#10 -- Arkansas (11 appearances, 2x CWS runner-ups)
#11- Alabama (5 appearances, 2x CWS runner-ups)

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Posted by Island_Tiger73

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:10 am to Sparetime

State is in if you take the S off of titles

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Posted by shinerfan

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:14 am to AUTiger789

I'm not sure how to incorporate it into your formula except for maybe historical attendance but I think Miss St should get some credit for creating the raucous gameday atmosphere and encouraging tailgating for baseball. LSU has matched or maybe surpassed them but it was State that drew the template for SEC baseball.

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Posted by ManBearSharkReb

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:22 am to shinerfan

1 LSU
2 Texas
3 Florida
4 South Carolina
5 Vandy
6 Miss State
7 Ole Miss
8 OU
9 Arkie
10 Tamu
11 UGA
12 Mizzou
13 Bama
14 Auburn
15 Kentucky
16 Tenner

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Posted by GamecockUltimate

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Member since Feb 2019

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:26 am to ManBearSharkReb

quote:

1 LSU
2 Texas
3 Florida
4 South Carolina
5 Vandy
6 Miss State
7 Ole Miss
8 OU
9 Arkie
10 Tamu
11 UGA
12 Mizzou
13 Bama
14 Auburn
15 Kentucky
16 Tenner

I am sorry..there is zero way you put LSU above Texas....

yes...same number of titles, but UT has 38 CWS Appearances. Basically thats 6 national titles with 38 elite 8's. That is more impressive that 6 national titles and 21 elite 8's. #1 on that list shouldnt be up for debate

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Posted by Farmer1906

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Member since Apr 2009

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:27 am to ManBearSharkReb

I feel like we're overrating OU.

Over the last 25 years:
-5 Regional Wins
-0 Regular Seasons Titles
-2 CWS Appearances

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Posted by BobLeeDagger

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Posted on 5/6/24 at 10:30 am to Run DMC

State isn't 2. Probably 4 or 5 depending on how you weight some things vs. Florida for on field results.

If we're talking pure tradition and the general sentiment around "program" then yea, I could see State at 2 easily alongside LSU.

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