Insurancerebel

Times change.

Michael Vick stats 2 years at vir tech 56.5 comp rate, 3074 yards passing, 20 tds to 11 ints, rushing 1202 yards 16 tds.

Jaxson Dart was 67.3%, 7,643 yards passing, 52 tds to 11ints, 884 yards rushing and 11 tds.

Why make a big deal over Michael Vick?

At the time Archie was flashy and doing things no other qb was doing.

Don't be dumb

If he can sit in the pocket… he has a hell of a arm

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If you want to be safe, follow the extension service recommendations for your state.

The federal appellate court for LA, TX and MS addressed this a few years ago.

In United States v. William E. Holdman (2023), the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit affirmed that to claim the "normal agricultural operation" safe harbor under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act (MBTA), a landowner or hunter must strictly follow the official, specific recommendations of that exact state’s Cooperative Extension Service, rather than generalized regional or neighboring state guidelines.

Holdman, a Louisiana deer farm owner, top-sowed winter wheat on a disced field in August/September without covering the seed with soil, broadcasting it at a heavy rate to attract doves near an artificial power line hide.State wildlife agents established that his practices directly violated the Louisiana State Extension Service guidelines, which required wheat seeds to be covered with approximately an inch of soil, planted at a lighter rate per acre, and timed differently.

From the decision: Dr. Reed, who authored or co-authored all three pamphlets, testified that Holdman failed to follow the recommended guidelines for normal agricultural procedures in these ways: (1) he scattered the winter wheat seed prior to the recommended date of September 1, (2) he left the seed uncovered rather than using one inch of soil cover, and (3) he distributed the seed too densely, 120 pounds of seed per acre rather than the recommended 80 pounds of seed per acre. After reviewing images of the area, including the artificial power line and brush hide, Dr. Reed opined that Holdman's field was not in line with Louisiana's Cooperative Extension Service guidelines for a wheat field and, therefore, fell outside the MBTA regulations' definition of a “normal agricultural operation.”

Here is the decision if you was to read the whole thing. LINK

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Yes! Excellent point, but I think this case actually strengthens the point I’ve been making.

The Fifth Circuit didn't establish one farming standard that applies equally to Louisiana, Texas and Mississippi. Instead, it ruled that what qualifies as a “normal agricultural operation” depends on the recommended agricultural practices of the state where the field is located.

That was a major issue in this case. Holdman's attorney specifically introduced Mississippi State's recommendations because Mississippi allowed wheat planting beginning August 15 and broadcast rates up to 120 lbs./acre.

The court wouldn't let him use Mississippi's recommendations because his field was in Louisiana. The Fifth Circuit was very clear: “The guidance from the state of Louisiana is the only relevant guidance.”

To me, that's the important takeaway from this case. The federal court didn't say Louisiana's recommended farming practices become the standard for everybody in the Fifth Circuit. It said the opposite—the federal safe harbor looks to each state's Extension Service to determine what constitutes an acceptable normal agricultural practice in that state.

So for a field in Mississippi, the question isn't what LSU Extension says is normal farming in Louisiana. The question is what Mississippi State Extension says is a normal agricultural practice in Mississippi.

If anything, Holdman gives us a pretty strong indication that a federal court considering a Mississippi case is going to look to Mississippi's own recommended farming practices, just like it looked to Louisiana's in Holdman.

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Was not doubting the regulations state that. What I was highly doubting was that is listed as a Recommended planting date. That is in no way a normal planting date for a winter wheat crop. That is specifically written to allow baiting doves. Not arguing with it. Just pointing out that is not a normal agricultural practice.

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Not for harvest wheat, but is acceptable for cattle grazing

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No way that is correct. Recommended by who? A dove hunter?

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"August 15th to October 15th as a normal agricultural practice. You must spread the seed evenly at a rate of no more than 90 pounds per acre, and you cannot pile or clump the seed."

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We used to broadcast wheat a few weeks before the season and run a disc over it the afternoon before. Same as planting a food plot - just in a different order.

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No legal on LA I don't think

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Do you burn anything or just cut it?

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usually burn the millet, it'll stay longer if you do that.

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You having to do millet and wheat to pull the birds into your field from the corn? Sounds ideal with gravel and power lines. Or do find a way to hunt the corn as well.

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We will hunt both fields, but 120 acre field is big and they get spread out.

Millet and wheat pull more birds which is the goal, also concentrates them where we will be hunting.

Corn field tends to better after opening weekend. We get more hunts throughout the season on it. The millet and wheat seem to be good for the first two weekends and then they start germination.

I'd say the guy with a $40 million roster and making $13 million a year has more pressure on him. With Jeff Lebby following a close second

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Crazy how all the lazy southern sports media call him so likable and give him a pass for so much nonsense

He probably should have the most pressure on him next to Beamer this year because he wasn't the head coach OM wanted to replace Coach Kiffin and was basically rushed to the podium Coach O style, his job security is very minimal now

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Horrible take...