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Is Saban correct about NIL ruining college athletics as we know it?

Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by MikeEhrmantraut
Anchorage, Alaska
Member since Nov 2020
899 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:03 am
I have to say I agree with his assessment. It’s on a path to ruin the collegiate athletic experience as we know it. Is it really beneficial to the student athlete?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18246 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:09 am to
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Is Saban correct about NIL ruining college athletics as we know it?
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Yes.
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Is it really beneficial to the student athlete?

Yes, but the bulk benefiting are those who were already getting full rides, aka needed the least help. It's great Olympians can now collect, it's laughable instawhores can also.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33285 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:20 am to
NIL has absolutely ruined football, but I'm not gonna pretend Saban pioneered this school of thought.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20212 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:22 am to
Call me old fashioned and corny, but my emotional connection to watching college football is barely hanging on at this point.

There was a time when you’d say “That’s our guy.”, and you (most of the time) saw his connection to the school.

Now? Just guns for hire. They have no bond with the school, so don’t expect me to have a bond with them (and, by extension, their team).
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10356 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:24 am to
The problem isn't NIL, which would work normally in a fair system.

The problem is the schools and NCAA doing everything in their power to keep student athletes uncompensated so NIL became a loophole.

If they had been proactive this could have been avoided but greed and stupidity got in the way.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9471 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:35 am to
NIL is making the sport more competitive among power schools. I disagree vehemently with Saban. He favors athletes being compensated but not as employees. NIL is as American as apple pie. I dislike hypocrites who think a man shouldn’t be allowed to make a living from his own talents yet they claim to be capitalists.
Posted by Dallaswho
Texas
Member since Dec 2023
1153 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:36 am to
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Is it really beneficial to the student athlete?


Is your paycheck beneficial?
Posted by Mad Dog Droopy
Member since Mar 2024
61 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:44 am to
NIL is here because of Nick Saban and his cheating.

Mark Emmert turned a blind eye and protected Saban for years. Alabama players flaunted their new cars and wealth. Emmert and the NCAA went after other schools for anything they could find.

Other schools leveled the playing field by force. Emmert and Saban both retired and ran.

Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
974 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 11:50 am to
I think he needs to mind his own beeswax. NCAA let him rule college football while coach. Now he isn't coach or AD or President, so he has no official role. Except trying to "fix" the game, and he knows a lot about "fixing".
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25684 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:04 pm to
I agree mostly with NIL, players getting some compensation is ok...

The problem to me is the unrestricted transfer portal system. Something has to happen there IMO...

College coaches have it hard enough without having to recruit an incoming class plus re-recruit your entire current roster.

If your gonna have NIL, they need some kinda contract/restrictions on your current players. It's become the wild west and I think that's why Saban left and many more good coaches will follow.

The best coaches are making frick you money now. Coach 10 yrs for $10,000,000 and you can GTFO and never worry the rest of your life...
This post was edited on 3/16/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
271 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:19 pm to
Yes, it has ruined everything. Today’s college athletes are soft. Overcompensated and underperforming. Free education, room and board, a small monthly stipend is all any college athlete needs. A hungry dog runs faster. These kids aren’t hungry. Half of them have lifetime fried chicken tender deals.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105547 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:41 pm to
It already has
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18556 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 12:46 pm to
NIL is severely damaging but I can get over the fact that these guys are getting paid.

It’s the transfer bullshite that is ruining college athletics.

It seems like the NCAA can easily regulate eligibility for transfer players.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13374 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 1:12 pm to
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I have to say I agree with his assessment. It’s on a path to ruin the collegiate athletic experience as we know it. Is it really beneficial to the student athlete?
The way they done it ruined cfb. If they would take the money and put it in a fund and split it evenly then it would work. Paying different amounts and different schools having more money to bid is what is ruining it.
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11461 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 1:14 pm to
College athletics are on a slow death roll. Fans are probably in the denial phase
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1859 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 2:36 pm to
1. Players have never been as invested in the schools as the fans are. Folks need to understand that.

2. The money is going to keep happening. People need to get over that.

3. The key is to rein in the Wild West transfer portal so that coaches don’t have to recruit their rosters every frickin’ year and fans can have some sense of continuity. That will have to be done contractually which doesn’t necessarily mean making the players employees.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28908 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 2:39 pm to
Saban paid his players for his entire tenure at Alabama and quit when it became fair across the board with NIL.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6023 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 2:45 pm to
Saban is not some novel genius on the subject, he's the only man with gravitas and capability to speak about it. He's not a current head coach who can be negatively recruited via distortions of his statements. He is a name every old fart in congress actually knows.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
120002 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 2:57 pm to
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Is Saban correct about NIL ruining college athletics as we know it?


Yes, easily
Posted by PrattvilleTiger
Prattville Al
Member since May 2020
1784 posts
Posted on 3/16/24 at 3:07 pm to
So, Saban can get filthy rich but the players can't? That's a very un-American and Communistic POV to have...
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