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re: As SEC moves to 16 teams & 3 permanent rivals, who plays who?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:21 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:21 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
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schools could play who in football year in and year out, while rotating the other SEC schools
I am okay with the pod idea but I just want them to rotate the schools that we don’t play every year on a better rotation. It sucks the way they do it now. We have to wait 8-10 years to see some teams come to TS
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:50 pm to Miketheseventh
LSU, Vanderbilt,Missouri and MissState
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:40 pm to skullhawk
WTF do so many people want put us with the Faggies? WE'RE NOT RIVALS. WE HAVE ALMOST NO HISTORY. They are so weird and I hate it whenever we have to play them, even if we win. We have much more history with Ole Miss and Arky. Bama and Auburn as well. Swap A&M and the piggies in most of your suggestions and that works much better.
I just don't understand why so many people are trying to stick us with A&M. It makes no sense. I don't care if they want to stay away from big brother and OK. That's who they belong with. Otherwise, the SEC shouldn't be letting them in.
I just don't understand why so many people are trying to stick us with A&M. It makes no sense. I don't care if they want to stay away from big brother and OK. That's who they belong with. Otherwise, the SEC shouldn't be letting them in.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:12 am to TDTiger225
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WE HAVE ALMOST NO HISTORY. They are so weird and I hate it whenever we have to play them, even if we win. We have much more history with Ole Miss and Arky. Bama and Auburn as well. Swap A&M and the piggies in most of your suggestions and that works much better.
LSU has played Texas A&M 60 times. That is almost as many times as LSU has played Florida (67) and Arkansas (67), and MORE games than LSU has played against Auburn (55), Tennessee (33) and Georgia (32). LSU first played A&M in 1899. The only three SEC opponents whom LSU began playing earlier are Ole Miss, Mississippi St, and Alabama.
LSU and A&M played each other for 20 straight years between 1955-1975. They then played every year between 1986-1995. Conference expansion, realignment more or less put an end to that in the mid 90's. But to say LSU and A&M have "almost no history" is ridiculous. It may be a bit of a surprise, but "history" did begin prior to 2000
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 8:14 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 1:29 pm to Alt26
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LSU and A&M played each other for 20 straight years between 1955-1975.
Nobody cares about that.
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They then played every year between 1986-1995.
Nobody cares about this either.
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They are so weird and I hate it whenever we have to play them, even if we win.
I agree with this. A&M has been begging LSU to be their rival since they joined the SEC. But I still don’t hate them. They have the nicest fans in the SEC. The only time I care about them is at kickoff. Just another game.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 4:33 pm to Alt26
I am also in the minority, I guess, but the Florida game (along with Auburn and Bama) is like a bowl game to me, no matter what the records are. Have never understood why whiners have been griping about them being our permanent East match up. I mean, you’d rather watch us play Vandy every year?? That being said, there is great potential for the LSU / ATM rivalry to grow
Posted on 5/11/22 at 4:47 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
I think it should be pods, with you playing 3 teams every year. Then you play two teams in each pod every year rotating.
Example:
Pod 1:
LSU
A&M
Ole Miss
MISS St
Pod 2:
Texas
OK
Missouri
Arkansas
Pod 3:
Vandy
Tenn
Bama
Auburn
Pod 4:
UF
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
So LSU would play:
Miss St
@ole Miss
A&M
@Pod 2 Team A
Pod 2 team B
@Pod 3 team A
Pod 3 team B
@ Pod 4 team A
Pod 4 team B
9 conference games. 5 home/4 away and swap every year between 5 and 4.
Play Pod team C and D the next year and then make the return trips for A and B the following. So instead of playing someone two years in a row home and away, you play the entire conference every two years.
Edit: Every four years, after you have played each team home and away, evaluate the records of all teams and do the schedule based on strength of those four years. So instead of having 1 team end up with the top of the 3 other pods all the time at the same time, make sure you do the two teams each team plays the most even as possible in strength based of a four year running total.
Example:
Pod 1:
LSU
A&M
Ole Miss
MISS St
Pod 2:
Texas
OK
Missouri
Arkansas
Pod 3:
Vandy
Tenn
Bama
Auburn
Pod 4:
UF
Georgia
South Carolina
Kentucky
So LSU would play:
Miss St
@ole Miss
A&M
@Pod 2 Team A
Pod 2 team B
@Pod 3 team A
Pod 3 team B
@ Pod 4 team A
Pod 4 team B
9 conference games. 5 home/4 away and swap every year between 5 and 4.
Play Pod team C and D the next year and then make the return trips for A and B the following. So instead of playing someone two years in a row home and away, you play the entire conference every two years.
Edit: Every four years, after you have played each team home and away, evaluate the records of all teams and do the schedule based on strength of those four years. So instead of having 1 team end up with the top of the 3 other pods all the time at the same time, make sure you do the two teams each team plays the most even as possible in strength based of a four year running total.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 5/11/22 at 6:04 pm to skullhawk
quote:Typically the SEC doesn't screw up when it comes to football
I could see the SEC royally screwing this up
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:23 pm to MurphyEarl815
quote:There will never be an Alabama in anything with North attached to it
There will never be a SEC north!
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:41 pm to schmoo
First time poster, occasional lurker. Great board, coming from an Aggie.
Many interesting points raised in this thread, but FWIW and if you care for an Aggie's perspective...
1 - I would rather OU and UT not have been let in, but since we have no say...
2 - I am thinking the only solution that seems to make the most sense is pods. Not saying I like it, but it is what it is.
3 - I don't know why some of you think some backroom deal has been made, at the request of A&M, to keep us out of a pod/division/arrangement with Texas. You're crazy if you think A&M and Texas won't be put back together. Too much history and money involved. It's on the level of Bama / Auburn, OU / Texas, Tennessee / Florida, etc. Texas A&M is not at all scared of playing them. We split the series with them in the period after we became a co-ed, non-mandatory military school. And when we left the Big 12 stated we would keep the rivalry (they actually declined it). Crazy to think A&M cares about keeping it separate after Texas joins the SEC. We didn't want them to join the SEC, as it locks up recruiting for us. Once Texas was let in, we don't care anymore.
4 - Aggies do think of LSU as a "rival", but are indifferent if you think of us as one. As a Tiger pointed out, we actually have played 60 times, so had history before we even joined the SEC. As another Tiger friend of mine told me, you guys think of any SEC team on your schedule as a rival. Different viewpoints, but we aren't obsessed about it either.
5 - As much as I hate this, the pod that makes the most sense for us is Texas A&M, Texas, OU, Arkansas. I would rater LSU in it over Arkansas. Frankly, credit to you, better opponent and we have more of a sense of historical rivalry with you than Arkansas. We just think of them as the next team on the schedule (despite the attempt to make it a rivalry in Jerryworld). It would be even worse for me if they put us with Texas, OU and Missouri, as it would feel too much like we were in the BDF again. Missouri should be a B1G school.
Of course, just one man's guesses and ramblings as to what may happen. The above said... though totally unrealistic... If I could just pick the pod I want us to be in....
A&M, LSU, Bama, Auburn
(totally ignoring other rivalry match ups, realistic power balances, etc. and just focusing on the three games I want to see us play every year)
Many interesting points raised in this thread, but FWIW and if you care for an Aggie's perspective...
1 - I would rather OU and UT not have been let in, but since we have no say...
2 - I am thinking the only solution that seems to make the most sense is pods. Not saying I like it, but it is what it is.
3 - I don't know why some of you think some backroom deal has been made, at the request of A&M, to keep us out of a pod/division/arrangement with Texas. You're crazy if you think A&M and Texas won't be put back together. Too much history and money involved. It's on the level of Bama / Auburn, OU / Texas, Tennessee / Florida, etc. Texas A&M is not at all scared of playing them. We split the series with them in the period after we became a co-ed, non-mandatory military school. And when we left the Big 12 stated we would keep the rivalry (they actually declined it). Crazy to think A&M cares about keeping it separate after Texas joins the SEC. We didn't want them to join the SEC, as it locks up recruiting for us. Once Texas was let in, we don't care anymore.
4 - Aggies do think of LSU as a "rival", but are indifferent if you think of us as one. As a Tiger pointed out, we actually have played 60 times, so had history before we even joined the SEC. As another Tiger friend of mine told me, you guys think of any SEC team on your schedule as a rival. Different viewpoints, but we aren't obsessed about it either.
5 - As much as I hate this, the pod that makes the most sense for us is Texas A&M, Texas, OU, Arkansas. I would rater LSU in it over Arkansas. Frankly, credit to you, better opponent and we have more of a sense of historical rivalry with you than Arkansas. We just think of them as the next team on the schedule (despite the attempt to make it a rivalry in Jerryworld). It would be even worse for me if they put us with Texas, OU and Missouri, as it would feel too much like we were in the BDF again. Missouri should be a B1G school.
Of course, just one man's guesses and ramblings as to what may happen. The above said... though totally unrealistic... If I could just pick the pod I want us to be in....
A&M, LSU, Bama, Auburn
(totally ignoring other rivalry match ups, realistic power balances, etc. and just focusing on the three games I want to see us play every year)
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 5/11/22 at 9:17 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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LSU 8&4 Ole Miss Miss State Texas OU Ark MO
Bama Auburn Tennessee Vandy
Florida Georgia Kentucky USCe
This makes a lot of sense and is mostly balanced.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 11:55 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
I think Mizzou, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M play each other. Best out of them plays the real SEC teams.
Same thing with USCe, Kentucky, Vandy, and Tennessee, except that they are actually SEC schools.
That leaves, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Bama, State, Ole Miss & LSU taking all comers.
Same thing with USCe, Kentucky, Vandy, and Tennessee, except that they are actually SEC schools.
That leaves, Florida, Georgia, Auburn, Bama, State, Ole Miss & LSU taking all comers.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:13 am to C2 Ag 93
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1 - I would rather OU and UT not have been let in, but since we have no say...
Cause your a typical Aggie Puss..... don’t act like y’all didn’t shite the bed when TEXAS joined. And don’t act like the majority of your fanbase absolutely doesn’t want TX in their pod. If y’all are the super power y’all believe don’t be SCARED!
That ONE conference title back in 1998 means something......even though the Big 12 sucks...... which y’all constantly say..... y’all won that shitty conference ONE TIME......
Think about that...... LOL
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 12:16 am
Posted on 5/12/22 at 1:44 am to Alt26
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SEC "North"
As others have subsequently stated, “SEC North” can’t happen. That’s sacrilege.
Your setup and pods are otherwise good. Just call them SEC Mid or SEC Central instead.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 2:31 am to skullhawk
quote:This.
It makes more sense to swap A&M and Arkansas but it's been speculated the SEC may throw A&M a bone and keep them away from Texas every year.
And the rest would shite if we got Ark/Ms/MsSt.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 8:37 am to Fast Times @ LSU
That looks awful
I want to play these teams every year:
Bama
UF
AU
Historically these have been the most entertaining games to watch and the most anticipated game when the season starts. Also these are the 3 road games you want to travel to…..
I also want to play UGA, Tenn more then we do now. A four year player should get to play home and away with every SEC team
I want to play these teams every year:
Bama
UF
AU
Historically these have been the most entertaining games to watch and the most anticipated game when the season starts. Also these are the 3 road games you want to travel to…..
I also want to play UGA, Tenn more then we do now. A four year player should get to play home and away with every SEC team
Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:11 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Us 8&4 Ole Miss Miss State
Texas OU Ark MO
Bama Auburn Tennessee Vandy
Florida Georgia Kentucky USCe
Kentucky looks odd there. If I was going to Region it I would do
KY, MO, OU, Ark
Tx, AM, LSU, Ole MS
Ms St, Bamma, Tenn, Auburn
FLa, GA, SCe, Vandy
Posted on 5/12/22 at 11:24 am to Fast Times @ LSU
I don’t give a frick about Texas A&M.
I want to play Auburn and Florida.
I want to play Auburn and Florida.
Posted on 5/12/22 at 12:29 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You can keep rivalries alive
Pods should be
Ark.
LSU.
Florida
Ole Miss
Bama
Auburn
Ms State
South Carolina
Kentucky
Georgia
Vanderbilt
Tenn
Texas
Texas A&M
Missouri
Oklahoma
Some games outside of pod are rivalry games and you keep them
You rotate everything else beyond that and you only play 1 non conference game a year
This scenario Georgia has an obvious easier Pod but they can’t escape the fact they have to play 6-7 SEC teams outside of their Pod.You play 9 SEC teams a year you are gonna play some competition for sure
Pods should be
Ark.
LSU.
Florida
Ole Miss
Bama
Auburn
Ms State
South Carolina
Kentucky
Georgia
Vanderbilt
Tenn
Texas
Texas A&M
Missouri
Oklahoma
Some games outside of pod are rivalry games and you keep them
You rotate everything else beyond that and you only play 1 non conference game a year
This scenario Georgia has an obvious easier Pod but they can’t escape the fact they have to play 6-7 SEC teams outside of their Pod.You play 9 SEC teams a year you are gonna play some competition for sure
This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 5:48 am
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