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re: AI Data centers

Posted by tigeraddict on 3/28/26 at 4:53 pm to
According to a quick search. A data center uses about 1 ton of cooling per every 200-300 sq for

A 7,000,000 sq ft facility would use about 23,333 tons of cooling (at 300 sq ft/ton)

To put that into perspective, that is in the range of peak cooling for the entire LSU campus, which is over 200 buildings…. (Campus load fed from the CHW plant by Tiger stadium and the one by the Parker coliseum).
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Feels like Trump should have waited on this until after the midterms


The reports that were released stated that Iran was building rockets faster then the west was building interceptors. The longer that the US/Israel waited the more the ratio would be going negative in our favor

Waiting till after midterms was over would have been too late. The Middle East and Israel would have been seeing slit more getting through.
Any Universities getting any federal money, even if research grants, should accept Americans first

Despite the Obama and Biden years….we still have the best military in the world….and it is on full display right now.
Almost 34 years with same company. Couldn’t imagine searching for a job today. But thankfully I am AI replacement immune.

Just need company to stay a company till retirement age….. and compensate me accordingly.
“And the amphibious invasion of Kuwait in Gulf War I is imminent….”


More misdirection to our enemy…..
I’ll take some more gear. The shirt I won in the past was nice
The people have a means to replace their leader with the vote…..

Iranian people have to do it with their blood…..
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They also may want to be careful of US influence on the Caspian Sea.


A friendly Iran puts pressure on Russias southern exposure…….
Iran wants compensation


Do they take payment in RDX, TNT, and aluminum powder……
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Not quite that straight forward because of the way the ITC is monetized. It would be closer to 10MM going to 12.5MM if you pulled it straight back through to cost of construction but its really a cost of capital.


i tried to simplify it without having to get into Net Present value and avoided capital costs. also i am on the engineering side and not the financing (bean counter) side

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Safe harbor can extend far past 7/3/26 as long as you meet the 5% PWT. My fund is projecting SH sales into 2029. Pretty much everyone is buying up equipment to qualify.


this is true, but if you miss getting the 5% safe harbor "costs incurred" by 7/3/26 then you have until december 31, 2027 to put the solar farm into service or you lose the ITC credit. if this is an "in front of the meter" farm, IE "selling back" to the utility company, then that is highly unlikely to occur with construction and the utility companies interconnect. if behind the meter then that can be done but still a lot of work. needs to be done in a short amount of time on big projects.

This school system has an "in front of the meter" farm that sells the production back to the grid. my point was, that come 7/3/26 these construction project will be less affordable without the ITC.
At a minimum, this link is misrepresenting the costs/payback. or they are just out right makign it up.


found an article on the size and "savings" for the solar array:

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so the 5MWac solar array is "making" $500k year.

The article says that the site is also grandfather in to the 1 to 1 Net metering credit that is no longer in place.


What the article fails to show is the cost to construct the solar farm.is that solar farm will cost north of $10m to build and interconnect to the utility grid. And that is with the ITC credit that is gone shortly. so even with the old rules with ITC, that is a 20 year payback

so the article is stating the savings without factoring in the capitol upfront cost to built it. and this money was likely borrowed by the school district through bonds so there is an interest factor. also, there is a maintenance cost associated with maintaining a solar farm as well that will go against the savings.

Typically solar farms will last 25-30 years (barring a severe weather event) and the output will degrade about 0.5% per year.

But yea, if you make the initial cost of construction $0, and you are grandfathered into a 1 to 1 net metering deal that is no longer available you "make money"

However, with the ITC saf Harbor date of July 3, 2026 coming soon and no more ITC credits given for projects started after that date.

So once the ITC goes away, that $10m cost of construction goes to $15m and the simple payback goes from 20yer to 30year, which is the life of the panel. but the panels degrade 0.5% per year.......


THis is why solar is not sustainable without ITC subsidies....



If the 25th wasn’t used on Biden, the threshold would be a president in a coma now to debate using it….
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Looks like the plan now is back out, declare victory, and just cross our fingers for regime change?


you must have missed his reply to a question shortly after this question about if they negotiations fail.... Trump said "then we will just keep bombing pur little hearts out"

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He says if the postponement of strikes goes well "we're going to end up with settling this - otherwise, we'll just keep bombing our little hearts out"
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The Kharg thing almost feels like a distraction to me. My gut tells me we're planning an operation elsewhere and we want their attention on Kharg. I could be 100% wrong though


Kinda reminds me of the focus on gulf war 1 on an amphibious invasion of Kuwait. Sadam moved a lot of forces to stop an attack that never happened…..

Focus your enemy away from where you plan to attack…..
Hypothesis #2

He is the greatest president in my lifetime because he is not a member of the uni-party and is not an insider. He also learned from his 1st term and from the attacks in between terms that he does not need to give a frick on feelings and trying to work with the establishment.

He just needs to go “hard in the paint”
Glad I opted for the 6:00 am flight out of BTR vs 10:45 at MSY.

12hr plus travel day but I will arrive at destination at same time but get no line at TSA precheck and don’t have to stress.

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2 sundays ago TSA had a sick out to protest no pay. Would like they did it again. As lines were just as long then.
Electorate has a short news cycle memory.

Come November, if this is still ongoing, it would be an issue. But if it’s over before then it will be a faded memory with respect to voting.

7+ months is an eternity in a voting cycle……


Exactly. A flat map is most accurate at the equator but most distribution at the poles.
I like how he is not trying to fight a war with one hand tied behind our backs.

And thankfully we are now mostly energy independent.