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re: As SEC moves to 16 teams & 3 permanent rivals, who plays who?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:01 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:01 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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If they moved Missouri to the West and Alabama and Auburn to the East, they could do away with cross-division permanent rivalries.
Then we’d basically be playing in the Big 12 East? Hard pass.
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:02 pm to GeorgeWest
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1. I doubt the SEC will end up in pods. It is easier to simply keep 2, 8-team divisions, East and West.
2. Put Bama and Auburn in the SECE, Mizzou, Texas, and OU to the SECW. That division situation preserves the necessary historic rivalries, makes determining an SEC championship game participants less complicated.
If you play everyone in your division every year, even going to 9 SEC games, you are playing teams in the other division once every 4 years... visiting them once every 8. So we would go to the Swamp once every 8 years, Jourdan Hare once every 8 years, etc.
Not a huge fan of that.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:04 pm to Alt26
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Play 3 games against your division opponents; Rotate inter-divisional matchups each year (like the NFL); Play 1 (or 2) teams from the other division(s) you aren't matched up against that season based upon finish from the previous year (also like the NFL)
EDT: The only thing I MAY change would be to nix picking the 1 cross-division game based upon the prior year's division standings. The reason is because it is likely the same 1-2 teams are going to win the division each year.
3 games in your pod
4 games against another pod
2 games - one team in each of the other two pods, based on prior season standings
Guaranteed to play everyone every three years, some more often, and visit everyone every six years, some more often. Six years is too far apart but unless we go to 11-12 SEC games don't see how to avoid that if you want to play some teams every year.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:06 pm to Alt26
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SEC "North" - Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Poor Vandy if this happens lol!!
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:11 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Here's my radical idea.
No divisions
Play 10 SCHEDULED conference games, 1 non-conf
You are guaranteed to play every SEC team 2 out of every 3 years... visiting every SEC campus once every 3 years.
12th game weekend:
1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 - winners to SEC Champ game, higher seed home team
The other 12 teams - teams 5-10 host a team from 11-16, and the home teams ranked 5-9 gets to PICK their opponent out of the teams 11-16. Team 5 picks first, then team 6, down to team 9, and then team 10 gets the remaining team.
No divisions
Play 10 SCHEDULED conference games, 1 non-conf
You are guaranteed to play every SEC team 2 out of every 3 years... visiting every SEC campus once every 3 years.
12th game weekend:
1 vs 4, 2 vs 3 - winners to SEC Champ game, higher seed home team
The other 12 teams - teams 5-10 host a team from 11-16, and the home teams ranked 5-9 gets to PICK their opponent out of the teams 11-16. Team 5 picks first, then team 6, down to team 9, and then team 10 gets the remaining team.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:14 pm to TeddyPadillac
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what people are bitching about is how shitty Tennessee is every year for the last 15 years, and how Alabama gets an easy win most years while we have to play a top 20 team most years
Blame Tennessee for that.
When the conference was split in 1992 Tennessee was, historically, a stronger program than Florida. Florida was just starting to become a powerhouse. Over the next 3 decades LSU, Florida and Alabama would kind of maintain a position of power (at least starting in 2000) while Tennessee fell off. While it may seem unlikely now, who's to say Florida won't unexpectedly bottom out like Tennessee. Then you'd hear bitching from Alabama fans about how LSU gets an "easy" win by having to play Florida each season.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Then we’d basically be playing in the Big 12 East? Hard pass.
Oh, I agree with you 100% on that point. I said the same in my other post. Two divisions would essentially be two loosely connected conferences and LSU would be stuck in the one with almost no historical ties to the SEC. That would suck big time.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:21 pm to MikeTheTiger71
No I got it. Just think arky should have a bigger voice on what they want out of it.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:23 pm to Nado Jenkins83
For whatever reason, people didn't want to acknowledge A&M as a rival, but we've played them more times than we've played Auburn, and the hatred between the two schools is pretty intense. Sounds like a rivalry to me.
Arkansas? Apparently the Hog fans think it's a rivalry, but I think, at least for us, it's merely a fabrication of the SEC trying to find a rival for Arkansas. Now they'll have an historical (and bitter) rival in Texas.
Arkansas? Apparently the Hog fans think it's a rivalry, but I think, at least for us, it's merely a fabrication of the SEC trying to find a rival for Arkansas. Now they'll have an historical (and bitter) rival in Texas.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 3:59 pm to BillF
I hate A&M more than any SEC school.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:03 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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No I got it. Just think arky should have a bigger voice on what they want out of it.
I don’t disagree with you about that. I just think they would choose to be with the Big 12 teams, but it should be their choice before A&M. I was only pointing out that A&M would also be happy with that arrangement, not that they should get to dictate it.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:08 pm to BillF
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Arkansas? Apparently the Hog fans think it's a rivalry, but I think, at least for us, it's merely a fabrication of the SEC trying to find a rival for Arkansas. Now they'll have an historical (and bitter) rival in Texas.
LSU-Arkansas was a thing back before most of us were born. They played every year from 1906 through 1936 (except 1918 due to WWI.) I agree they would prefer Texas though.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:16 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Texas and Texas A&M are not splitting up.
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Or swap Arkansas with Missouri. The four big 12 schools back together again.
Texas
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Arkansas
Or swap Arkansas with Missouri. The four big 12 schools back together again.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 4:21 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:17 pm to logansrun
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I hate A&M more than any SEC school.
Why??? They have 2 wins over LSU in football in the last 20 years.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:20 pm to CoyoteSong
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Texas and Texas A&M are not splitting up. Texas Texas A&M Oklahoma Arkansas
That’s not going to happen. There’d be no place to put Missouri. Either A&M or Arkansas has to go with LSU and the Mississippi schools. Arkansas wants to be with Texas and A&M doesn’t, so A&M would be in LSU’s pod.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:26 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Arkansas wants to be with Texas and A&M doesn’t,
A&M still afraid of big brother Texas???
Texas A&M vs Texas would be one of the oldest rivals in the sec and the schools are separated by 90 miles. They will 100% be in the same pod with each other. Book it.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:32 pm to logansrun
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Vandy, Ky, Ala and Tenn
They must be using the same Gump alum that gave us the bridge schedule and took GA off their schedule. This “storied rivalry” with Tenn where they get an extra scrimmage every year sucks.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:40 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
I would rather 9 conference games. 7 division games. No permanent cross division games. Rotate 2 cross divisions each season.
West
LSU
aTm
Tex
OU
Ark
Mizzou
Miss St
Ole Miss
East
Bama
Auburn
Tenn
Kentucky
Vandy
USCe
UGA
UF
West
LSU
aTm
Tex
OU
Ark
Mizzou
Miss St
Ole Miss
East
Bama
Auburn
Tenn
Kentucky
Vandy
USCe
UGA
UF
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The pod system is definitely the way to go. We need away games to cross division opponents on a more regular schedule besides once every 12 years. It would be the most fair scheduling for all.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:11 pm to ProjectP2294
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I don't think there should be "pods". I think there should be enough permanent opponents to keep traditional rivalries alive. But not really clustered. Like Alabama would have LSU and Tennessee in their permanent set, but LSU wouldn't have Tennessee. I don't know how many permanent opponents you would need to make it work and still play every team in a reasonable amount of time, but I feel like this would give the most chance of making everyone happy.
This would work. Basketball operates similarly. Everyone in basketball has 3 permanent opponents but they aren’t grouped in a pod. Football could be 3-6-6. Nine conference games. Three permanents every year, Six for two years home and away, then the other six for two years home and away.
Top two teams would play the SEC title game. I know the current rules state you have to have divisions in a 12 or more team league but that could easily be rectified.
All natural rivalries could be preserved and you see every team home and away within four years.
Only sticking point in this format that I see would be tiebreakers for the SEC title game in the event there was no head to head meeting.
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