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Much of the athletic department is still the same. The difference from 2022 is the BOS, President, and Governor. They were the ones who made this move and essentially told the department either get over it, or we’ll get you out. Just like they did with Woodward.

It’s not an overly popular move within the department. That’s why the political muscle brought in basically an AD for Wade alone. The only person in the department who has more power than Wade is Kiffin. And that’s only because he is the football coach. Wade has the top political support behind him.
NC State should be more angry with their AD for seemingly having ZERO clue of the landscape being Raleigh. This move was the most telegraphed coaching move I can ever remember at LSU. LSU has been laying the groundwork for this since July!

Tate out. Woodward out. Rouse in. Mallet to Chairman. Hell, it would only take a NC St fan reading this message board one time to see dominos falling into place. This isn't a Kiffin hire where LSU came in and offered a huge pile of money to a guy to come to a program with a better pedigree. It was LSU totally rearranging the school and athletic department administration to make it favorable to lure a guy back the fans/donors liked.

When Wade went to NC State he did so with the knowledge that the LSU job was closed without any chance of being available to him for the foreseeable future. Tate and Woodward made that very clear last year. He wasn't going to NC State to spend just one year and leave at the next best opportunity. Then things drastically changed. Not only did LSU remove the barriers (Tate/Woodward) they installed, in essence, Wade's "team" - Rousse, Mallet and, eventually, Schroyer.

Does it suck for NC State? Sure. But when a school changes the administration for YOU...you go
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By and large I have stayed out of the MBB discussions on this board, so the idea that you think I’m parroting talking points is laughable. I wouldn’t even know what the talking points are to be able to parrot them. The SEC is stronger now than during Wade’s first tenure. That’s not even debatable. More SEC teams are well-funded now than before. There’s no direct evidence of that since most cheating programs were better at hiding it, but the results on the court certainly suggest that is the case.


What has improved the SEC is not better funding. It's what ALWAYS improves programs. Better coaching. That goes for football too. Look at Indiana. Did they one day decide after 100 years of being one of the worst programs in America they were going to dump an unprecedented amount of money into building a championship football program? No. They hired the right HC....then EVERYTHING else flowed from that. Go back to the SEC in 2018-2019 in basketball. The same year LSU signed Ried, Smart, Williams, Days, Vanderbilt signed 3 top 40 players. LSU won the SEC. Vandy went 0-18 in the league. Why such a discrepancy? Coaching!

When Wade was last in the SEC the league had Pearl, Oats, Cal (Kentucky), Barnes, Buzz Williams, then a collection of mediocre guys. Now he returns to Oats, Golden, Byington, Cal (Arkansas), Barnes, Beard, Miller, etc

The improved coaching, overall, is going to make it a battle. But it won't be a funding discrepancy that determines the outcome. Otherwise, Kentucky would be playing today/tomorrow for a trip to the Final Four rather than being ridiculously lucky to make it out of the first round.

LSU will have a good enough roster to compete. But here's the reality. They've had a good enough roster to compete for FOUR years! No, that doesn't mean the roster was Final Four good, or anywhere close. But good enough to be far better than worst in the league. The reason it was worst in the league is because it had the worst coach in the league. Wade is not that.

For FOUR years we've had to listen to every excuse under the sun explaining why LSU has been so bad, all while ignoring the actual problem stoically staring you in the face on the sideline. LSU has finally stopped fruitlessly treating the "symptoms" and addressed the actual root cause. I'm not going to predict LSU is a Final Four team, or even a Sweet 16 team next year. But I am 100% confident the results will be VASTLY different from the last 4 seasons. Not because Wade is or is not a better "cheater". Not because Wade will generate more NIL. But because LSU has finally dropped the anchor that drug this program to the deep abyss of losing and irrelevance

re: NC ST commits and current roster

Posted by Alt26 on 3/28/26 at 8:49 am to
I wouldn't hate it if Thomas came back. He's a solid PG. I just wouldn't allocate a massive sum (relative to the rest of my roster) to make it happen.

It will be interesting to see what Wade does. Reading between the lines it looks like they had roster cohesion issues this year. I watched a few of their games in the second half of the season, and there were a lot of disinterested looks at times.

I bet you will see a more deliberate effort to fit the right pieces in the right place rather than just signing bigger star power.

re: Anti-Pears: Asking for logic

Posted by Alt26 on 3/28/26 at 8:45 am to
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Something more than dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble...... ISO, shoot, one and done, rinse and repeat.

A little ball movement would be nice.


You don't get extra credit for the amount of passes you make, nor an assist on a made basket. Ask Minnesota. They led the nation this year in highest rate of assists per made basket. They finished 15-17 with the 85th rank offense

Putting the ball in the basket and not turning it over are the two most important things. Until 2022, Wade's LSU teams did that better than 90% of the country. This year NC State was the 23rd most efficient offense.

Offense has RARELY been the issue for Wade. It's more often been the defense...which has generally made his team imbalanced...which is why there has been a cap on the success. Balance is the key to greatness. Look at the 8 teams still playing. They are ALL ranked in the top 40 on offense and defense.

To his credit, McMahon recognized balance was key. And his LSU teams were, in fact, often balanced. Unfortunately, that balance was they sucked equally on BOTH ends of the floor.
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If it's assumed that every team alternates home and away challenge games, both played on the road this past season: LSU at BC and NC State at Auburn.


Yep. That would likely take an LSU/NC State game out of the mix.

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Plus, LSU is more likely going to be paired with one of the ACC teams that finished at or near the bottom, think Pitt, Notre Dame, BC (not likely) or Georgia Tech. NC State will get somebody from the middle of the SEC, like Texas A&M, Georgia, Missouri or Texas.


It's a made for TV event, which means ESPN tries to set the matchups based upon the projections of each team...not where they finished the year before. That's why NC State, despite having a losing record last season and finishing 16th in the ACC was paired with Auburn, who was picked to finish 6th in the SEC.

It's also why LSU was paired with BC and played its game on the Home Shopping Network. ESPN projected both teams to be shite.

re: Anti-Pears: Asking for logic

Posted by Alt26 on 3/27/26 at 5:36 pm to
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I think we will be one of the top 3 programs in the sec, which puts us somewhere between a tournament team and final four team consistently. That’s not really opinion, either. Just look at the facts: Wade’s SEC teams were consistently elite, finishing with the second-most league wins (48) in his final four seasons (2019-2022).


I'm bullish on Wade, but that is a high bar right out of the gate. Looking at the last three years that would require LSU going 13-5 in SEC play.

That said, I do see the path. Right now Florida and Alabama appear to be the consistent standard, with Tennessee just a slight notch behind. After that, there are a few programs that seem to slot into the next group (Vandy, Kentucky, Arkansas). I don't see LSU in Florida and Alabama's class right out of the gate (though anything is possible with roster turnover). Tennessee has been consistently good, but Wade seemed to have Barnes' number (4-1 after 2018).

It would be nice to see UNC do LSU a favor and remove Golden or Oats from the SEC. Pearl is gone. Barnes may not be far behind. Cal is inconsistent. Kentucky wants to excommunicate it's Pope
Neither.

The choosing to make Joe Sloan the OC was the initial domino.

Kelly wasn't aware enough that money matters more than relationships in recruiting. That's why he chose Sloan over Denbrock. He thought it was the piece to get him Underwood. It's wasn't.

Sloan was horrible last season. With a better offense last season LSU likely beats Ole Miss and Vandy. Even with a less than 100% Nussmeier

re: Anti-Pears: Asking for logic

Posted by Alt26 on 3/27/26 at 4:09 pm to
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I just hope he brings a more structured offense this time.


What does this even mean?

These were LSU's offensive efficiency rankings under Wade NATIONALLY

2018 - 33rd
2019 - 12th
2020 - 4th
2021 - 5th
2022 - 89th

That's ONE season out of 5 his team wasn't in the top 10% of offenses in the entire nation. In 2019, 2020, and 2021, LSU was in the top 15 of the NATION in points per game.

That's why when anyone criticizes his offenses at LSU they IMMEDIATELY send out a signal they have ZERO clue what they are talking about. It was his team's lack of defense that kept them from reaching greater heights...except in 2022 when that flipped (LSU was top 5 in defensive efficiency)

So let me revise the statement for you:

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I just hope he brings as good an offense this time.

re: Anti-Pears: Asking for logic

Posted by Alt26 on 3/27/26 at 3:22 pm to
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This might the gayest thing I have ever written about another man


I concur

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Yes but also its due to many fans not mentally "breaking up" with Wade. He was the first love that moved to another town. Sure we tried to move on and dated someone else but we always kept our fondness for the one that got away. Now he's coming back to town so we dump the placeholder, who was a very nice guy, for the bad boy we loved all along.


It's really simple. Every new hire, everywhere, is compared to the previous coaches. It's human nature. In this instance the previous HC (Wade) was well liked and successful. Thus, the new HC (McMahon) had to at least reach that level to win approval. Fans just want a winner. They don't care where he/she comes from, or even how they do it. Just win. LSU fans were willing to support McMahon. Anyone who was at his very first SEC game vs. Arkansas can attest. But when you lose 14 straight games and finish last in the conference after (what would have been) 4 years of NCAA Tournament appearances, people aren't eager to support you. Not because of a personal love for the former coach. But because they simply loved watching their team win and don't like watching them lose.

Win and people like you. Lose and they don't. It's a very simple equation.

At the end of the day, sports are entertainment for fans and supposed to be fun.

LSU fans have now gone from butthole Brian Kelly and the most boring guy in the world in McMahon to two guys with personality and attitude
What are these imaginary rules LSU, apparently, has to play by while no one else does?

What does LSU owe NC State? A heads up they are going to take their coach? How about NC State's AD do his job and be aware of the marketplace...at all times. LSU could not have been more transparent a run at Wade was forthcoming. Be prepared, moron?

And why would Wade discuss LSU until he decided he was going to take the job? What if LSU made a run and he declined? Why disrupt your team by saying you inquired about the LSU job if it turns out to be nothing?

Then they dovetail this BS into the Lane Kiffin hire. Why is it LSU's responsibility to wait to try to hire Ole Miss's coach until the CFP is over? It's not LSU's job to look out for Ole Miss to make sure Ole Miss has success. Quite the opposition actually.

None of these coaches are FORCED to go to LSU. They could all say no and end things immediately. LSU may have talked to Kiffin and Wade before the end of their respective seasons. But LSU didn't come out and say so publicly, nor did they demand each coach to accept the job before their school's season ended. Ole Miss told Kiffin to decide...so he did...he chose LSU. LSU gave Wade the offer...and he took it. Maybe Boo should have been aware of things in his athletic department before this week.

re: Wade in Tiger Stadium

Posted by Alt26 on 3/27/26 at 1:48 pm to
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When Wade's team makes it past the first round of the SEC tournament and into the first round of the NCAA tournament, without violating University or NCAA rules, come back. Until then, go away.


What about when he takes a team from the Southland conference and beats an ACC team that went 18-2 in ACC play in the NCAA Tournament



The Wade haters are a pretty sad bunch. Imagine your only argument being that "he hasn't made it past the second round" when (A) he was only allowed to coach in one NCAA Tournament and (b) even his one NCAA Tournament win matched the total of NCAA tournament wins by Johnson, Jones, and McMahon...COMBINED!

re: Does this guy come with Will Wade?

Posted by Alt26 on 3/27/26 at 1:40 pm to
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Hard pass. This is LSU, not some mid-tier small conference BS.


LSU had some goober dressed as a crawfish sitting in a pot banging the side with a stirring paddle while the opponent shot FTs when Wade was last here. I don't think we are in any position to play the "we're LSU. We're above that card".

If the players like the manager pretending to be Flava Flav leading out the team with a boombox then do it!

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What is the NIL budget? I have not seen a number yet.


There is no budget. There's no limit on what donors can give in NIL deals. That's the falsehood that the bozos who constantly claimed poor ole McMahon never had any money constantly missed. It wasn't "LSU" sole job to shake the money tree. It was McMahon's...and he didn't want to do it.

Wade will. Wade did it immediately the first time he was here. He did it immediately in LC when he got the McNeese job. There are a lot of LC people who never supported McNeese sports in great numbers before who started given more because Wade made and cultivated those relationships.

The good thing is that LSU and McNeese are so far apart on the level of competition that you have a lot of people in SW Louisiana who are both McNeese AND LSU fans. People who may have gone to McNeese, but have football season tickets for LSU and donate to both schools.

Wade will unlock the revenue streams. McMahon passed out donuts once a year.

re: The great thing about Wade

Posted by Alt26 on 3/27/26 at 1:23 pm to
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The biggest reason why McMahon wasn't successful was lack of talent and talent evaluation. This wont be a problem for WW


Iowa is one win away from the Final Four with a first year HC and a roster of guys who had never played a minute of major conf. basketball before this year. Is that because they've just gotten remarkably lucky? Or is it because their new HC can flat out coach and he's proven it across multiple levels of competition.

LSU didn't have Arizona, Duke, or Michigan level talent under McMahon. But they sure as hell didn't have one-of-the-worst-major-conference programs in America talent either. Good coaches take mid-teir talent and get the sum of the parts to produce results well above the level of the individual pieces. Bad coaches take mid-tier talent and win 24% of their games against major conf. opponents.

It's total uninformed groupthink BS that McMahon was this great, or even good, coach who just couldn't recruit. Just like it's uninformed groupthink BS that Wade isn't a good coach. In reality, McMahon was a better recruiter than coach. LSU routinely had signing classes ranked in the top 25. Yet, they finished in the bottom 25 in results.

Against all odds Scott Woodward was able to find a guy with the charisma of Trent Johnson and the coaching ability of Johnny Jones.
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As usual they’re wrong. He was told the situation Sunday


I suspect he was probably told on Sunday it appeared Wade was going to accept the offer. However, I'm willing to bet he was informed of LSU's plan to pursue Wade well before Sunday and that McMahon's future at LSU was contingent on Wade's decision. Why wouldn't LSU tell him? McMahon has no leverage. What was he going to do? Get angry and go seek the major conf. offer that doesn't exist or the mid-major job that would pay him FAR less than if he just got fired by LSU? LSU would have been thrilled if McMahon left on his own account. In that sense the refrigerator would have fixed itself and LSU wouldn't have to pay a buyout to a guy they didn't want to be their coach anyway.

Is it a good feeling knowing your employer is active looking to replace you? Probably not. Though it helps knowing that if they did they would owe you ~$10M. But if you don't want that feeling, create value. You don't do that by going 60-70 (17-55).

In the end it works out well for everyone except the diligent few on here who believed McMahon was on the cusp of greatness...despite not even being able to see greatness for 4 years. Matt gets to leave a place where he wasn't wanted anymore and had little chance to succeed with a huge sum of money in his pocket. Wade gets to come back to a place he never wanted to leave to work in a new environment with a friendly administration. The fans get the guy back who they didn't want to leave and can now feel optimistic for the first time in 4 years after a period of irrelevance.

re: "Messy" and "Clumsy" hire

Posted by Alt26 on 3/27/26 at 11:34 am to
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I get we should have announced firing McMahon first but honestly I cant imagine he didn’t know.


MM's firing was contingent upon Wade's acceptance. End of story. McMahon knew that well before this week. With that knowledge, he could have left for another job. But here's the thing, when you are 60-70 (17-55) there aren't a lot of "other jobs" out there, and there are NONE willing to pay you $2.4M (what MM will receive annually in his buyout payments).

LSU understood the leverage and the fact McMahon had none. That's why LSU could leave him in the corner looking on while it tried to hire Wade. There was ZERO concern of McMahon preemptively leaving on his own because LSU would have LOVED for him to do so and save them the cost of a buyout.

re: Warning for the athletic programs

Posted by Alt26 on 3/27/26 at 11:25 am to
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LSU fans are the worse and downvote me away but nothing I said is false


This is every major college with a passionate fanbase.

Step out of your bubble
LSU is not in the business of pleasing its competition or the virtue signaling media.

LSU wanted to hire Ole Miss's coach. That coach was under no requirement to accept the LSU job offer. He could have quickly said "No thanks", and nothing more would have come from it. He didn't...because he wanted the job. That the timing was on the eve of a CFP run for Ole Miss was not any of LSU's concern. Ole Miss is a direct competitor, and rival. NO ONE should expect Ole Miss to provide courtesies to LSU when it comes to competition. Again, Kiffin could have said no and remained with Ole Miss. He didn't. Despite no obligation to do so, LSU WAS going to provide Ole Miss the courtesy of having Kiffin coach the CFP. In fact, LSU let assistant coaches who were now LSU coaches continue to coach Ole Miss. It's not LSU's job to make sure Ole Miss is good at football.

NO ONE in the media seems willing to acknowledge the cataclysmic shift in college sports from 2018 (when Wade purportedly made the strong arse offers) and 2026...where strong as offers are both "legal" and mandatory. Why should LSU have to refrain from hiring a HC it fired for illegal conduct that is no longer illegal? McNeese didn't. Neither did NC State.

It's also not LSU's job to prevent NC State from losing a coach. Just like Kiffin, Wade could have said no to the offer. He didn't.

Bottom line, if you don't like it make sure (A) you keep your HC happy enough that he doesn't want to take an LSU offer or (B) become like LSU.
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We aren’t in the business of pleasing our competition


This is ALL that needs to be said.

It wasn't LSU's responsibility to accommodate their competitor, Ole Miss by not being a distraction during a CFP run...even though LSU was actually willing to accommodate Ole Miss.

It wasn't LSU's responsibility to avoid forcing NC State back into a coaching search a year later.

And it isn't LSU's responsibility to make Alabama, or NC State, or Ole Miss fans like LSU. The only responsibility LSU owes is to IT'S customers (fans)