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not sure about that...Florida had already lost a game, wasn't ranked and we stunk it up the prior week on offense against LA Tech.
At that time LSU fans were still riding high after the Clemson win and most dismissed the LA Tech performance as kind of a "hangover" or emotional let down after the level of emphasis placed on the Clemson game. Even after the Florida game when Kelly got pissed the media asked about the offense you had the majority of posters on here bristling at those who suggested there were some worrisome signs with the offense. The majority of fans saw LSU as the No. 3 team, national championship contender DURING the game...and the atmosphere reflected it (go back and listen to the crowd when Spears got a pick 6 when it was a 13-10 game in the 3rd).
It was only AFTER the game that some grumblings of concern started due to LSU having another bad offensive performance and Clemson losing to Georgia Tech that same day after struggling with Troy the week before.
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It is hard to top a Top 25 matchup to start the season at home..
I don't disagree. But I think a lot of the luster has faded off the Clemson program. Last offseason fans couldn't stop talking about Clemson given they were seen as a NC contender. Now, the only mention of Clemson is this thread. Most fans of college football see them as the poster child of refusing to adapt to the changing times and are surprised they are even ranked in the first place. Even though Florida did have a loss ahead of the LSU game last year the fact that (a) Florida is a long time rival (Clemson isn't) and (b) had beaten LSU the year before still stoked the fire of LSU fans at that time.
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Change it to be best September home game atmosphere and do we need to go back to VA Tech in 2007?
Even if you do that I still think you only go back to the Florida game last year (placed on Sept. 13th). You have to remember what the feeling was at that moment. Not what it is today in hindsight of how the season went. That win @ #4 Clemson was seen as a huge win for an LSU team with championship hopes. The LSU fanbase was fired up going into that Florida game.
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Even if LSU doesn’t press, they still have to prepare to handle pressure. If many players are not used to it, it will lead to many turnovers if we’re not prepared to face it.
Are you under the impression Wade is trying to bring in several 17-18 year old freshmen who have never played basketball beyond the HS level? As of now the "youngest" player in terms of experience he's bringing in is Divine Ugochukwu...who is a junior who has played in 50 games on an ACC and Big 10 team. The rest of the guys are either professionals and/or 5th year seniors. Call it a hunch, but I suspect they have enough experience at this point in their basketball careers to handle pressure.
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My concern is that the boosters have given Wade the benefit of the doubt, but I imagine they expect a return on their investment.
The boosters aren't just giving Wade the "benefit of the doubt". They helped remake the entire athletic department and the school's top position to, in part, get Wade back to LSU. They are sitting around right now thinking "Gee, I hope this guy knows what he's doing" :lol:
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Will they keep funding subsequent years if they believe their money isn’t being used wisely?
How does anyone know if the money is "being used wisely"? LSU hasn't played a single game yet this season!
Why don't we wait to worry about things until there is actually a basis for which to worry? Especially considering the same people who are now "worried" didn't seem to be worried when the prior coach completely crapped himself in year 1 and never got much better for 3 years after that. The same people who every offseason were convinced "THIS YEAR McMahon will get that illusive winning SEC record, or at least just not finish at the bottom of the league" are the same ones "worried" that a guy who has never had a losing season in his entire career has suddenly forgotten how to manage and coach a basketball team :lol:
re: LSU-Clemson will be the best atmosphere since _________ (insert game here)
Posted by Alt26 on 8/12/26 at 11:09 am to WaydownSouth
2025 vs Florida. If not that, then 2024 vs. Ole Miss.
People today are creatures of the moment and ridiculously prone to hyperbole where everything is the "best ever"....until the next "best ever" soon after.
Last year LSU was ranked No. 3 after having beaten Clemson when Florida came in. The preseason hopes of at least a CFP birth were still in full effect. It was a great atmosphere. It's just forgotten due to the way the rest of the season went. If not that, then the 2024 Ole Miss game was a great atmosphere.
The anticipation for the Clemson game with a new HC and new hope to improve from the prior 3 seasons may be higher. But the atmosphere won't be much, if any, different than those two games mentioned above.
People today are creatures of the moment and ridiculously prone to hyperbole where everything is the "best ever"....until the next "best ever" soon after.
Last year LSU was ranked No. 3 after having beaten Clemson when Florida came in. The preseason hopes of at least a CFP birth were still in full effect. It was a great atmosphere. It's just forgotten due to the way the rest of the season went. If not that, then the 2024 Ole Miss game was a great atmosphere.
The anticipation for the Clemson game with a new HC and new hope to improve from the prior 3 seasons may be higher. But the atmosphere won't be much, if any, different than those two games mentioned above.
re: If Winnie is hurt that’s not good?
Posted by Alt26 on 8/12/26 at 9:08 am to JiminyCricket
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This isn't neccesarily directed at Winnie but I absolutely hate NMU. It's one of the dumbest terms in all of sports. If the next man was as good as the first man, he probably would've been the first man and not the next man. If you're relying on the next man, odds are you're not as good as you were with the first man.
I think you are missing the point. It's not said in the context of the next man is just as good. It's that whining and complaining about a guy getting hurt doesn't do anything to change the situation. The next man just has to step up for the benefit of the team.
re: What Was the Toughest Football Drill You Participated In?
Posted by Alt26 on 8/12/26 at 8:56 am to CatfishJohn
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110 bear crawl
This.
It was pointless and punitive.
You have to be able to sprint in football and you have to have endurance. So sprinting 40, 50, 110 yards is applicable. You have to tackle, block, and run through contact. So the Oklahoma drill is applicable.
I NEVER one had to "bear crawl" 10 yards, let alone 110 yards, in a football game. Unless the coach was trying to punish you for something, it was a total waste of time an energy
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so we don't know how much of a difference their participation would have made.
I think we do...very little. That's not sour grapes. That's an opinion drawn from 120+ games of data for four years
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For comparison sake do you beleive the four transfers signed by Wade are better than Nwoko, Mckinnon, Sutton and Thomas.
It is entirely possible they are not. But I don't think either group could have had any success under McMahon. If it isn't abundantly clear by now, I'm firmly of the opinion that all of the blame for the last 4 years of awful results were because of McMahon. No collection of players could have had success under him under no circumstances. That's because 4 largely different rosters tried and 4 different rosters failed. There was only one common denominator (maybe 2, but I don't think Kent Lowe had anything to do with the struggles). Which is ultimately while I find the "concern" silly.
The same ones expressing concern didn't seem to have any when LSU was losing more game than anyone else in the SEC for four years. But now there is concern, three months before a single game has been played, that LSU may struggle? If so, then that would just put the program in the same place it left off and would be if McMahon was kept for another year. Given the apparent choice was either year 5 of McMahon or Wade, I'll take the latter. Hell, I'd take the latter with a D-3 roster. THAT is how bad McMahon was.
What Wade is doing is unorthodox. No one is arguing otherwise. But when you are already at the bottom what do you have to lose? And considering Wade's 12 year history as a HC it seems highly unlikely he all of a sudden forgot how to recruit, structure rosters, and coach a team to a point of at LEAST making the NCAA tournament. That's the reason for the lack of concern.
That's why I think the "concern" is really just faux "concern" raised as an anti-Wade talking point by the same ones who vehemently argued against LSU rehiring Wade, or for reasons unknown to any LSU basketball fan, wanted to bring McMahon back for another year. The people who for some reason hate that LSU basketball fans are excited that Wade is back moreso than they actually like LSU basketball. It's a search for any negative to latch on to in the moment for those who spent the last 4 year ridiculed for trying to illogically defend what everyone with a shred of honestly saw...that McMahon was a bad coach and the program was awful because of it.
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Every program I've been around has a strict regimen of what they want for players based on what they plan on doing during the year.
Do those programs have multiple 22-24 professional basketball players joining the team? If this were 2018 and Wade only had a handful of 18-21 year old college players with no way to add to those ranks at this point in the process I'd be more concerned. But it's not. College basketball has become more "professional" than ever before so the context in which it is view changes as well.
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So no, majority of these guys will not be in the shape to run and gun or press.
That's great! Wade doesn't "run and gun or consistently press either. He will utilize it intermittently to increase the tempo, or when the end of game situation calls for it. NC State played at essentially the same tempo as Wisconsin last season. His McNeese teams played much slower. Even his LSU teams generally ranked in the 70s-80s nationally in terms of tempo. Compare that to Alabama who, under Oats, has always been in the top 15.
I guess that's just another hallucination of what people think is "streetball". Wade's been willing to adapt his style (at least offensively) to his personnel.
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Did you not hear the story of how much of a difference there was for Florida football when Sumrall got there? It was a complete overhaul of philosophy.
That's 85+ players in a sport where professionals aren't transferring in. It may take more time to overhaul a philosophy with that many players. Adding 2, 3, 4 vets to the mix doesn't take as much time to "overhaul"
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Wade has whiffed since he's been here.
His team hasn't played a single game since he's returned as HC. So how can anyone judged whether he has "whiffed" or not? For 4 years we had to "celebrate" how great McMahon did in the offseason in signing players....only to watch him actually whiff when the games were played. Forgive me if I'm not all that enamored if a coach "wins" in May or June. I'll wait to see the results of the actual games to decide if he's "whiffed" or not.
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he's missed on a few recruits, and has upset another.
HS recruits? Who cares? That's not primarily how great teams are built anymore and there is no guarantee any stay beyond one season. Plus, of the current top 50 ranked HS prospect for next season, only 11 have committed. Only 4 SEC schools have a HS player committed for next season at the moment....and each only have 1. He has time.
Saying something like this will be one of the best LSU teams ever and a Final Four contender at this point is silly. But so is presuming a coach that has never had a losing season in his 12 years career, at 5 different schools, and has (or would have) been to the NCAA Tournament 9 of those 12 seasons suddenly forgot how to recruit, build a roster, and get them ready for a season.
re: I’ve seen two major collisions on Siegen this year. Is Drivers Ed not mandatory?
Posted by Alt26 on 8/11/26 at 4:15 pm to Camp Randall
Siegen is a terribly designed road between Rieger Rd and almost to Airline. A 6 lane heavily trafficked area with lots of businesses on each side and essentially one continuous middle turning lane. It's a minor miracle you've only seen two major collisions there
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I don't hate anyone, but I have the right to be concerned about the risk and amount of money our program is spending on guys who can't play together yet, and there's other teams ahead of us. If some of you are really wanting LSU basketball back to prominence, this should frustrate you. Even if every player is given the green light today, there are rival teams that have been conditioning since July 29th, and playing multiple games together. We are behind the eight ball.
As a fan there really isn't any financial concern because the only money the average fan puts in is the cost of a ticket and a TAF fee (if applicable). But that also didn't seem to be much of a concern when LSU was wasting money paying for last place finishes as there were MANY (not specifically on this board) who wanted to bring McMahon back for this season.
As far as bringing LSU back to prominence, the question is what exactly is "prominence"? LSU has never been a consistent championship contender, so no one is expecting that this season. In Wade's last season at LSU his team was a 6-seed in the NCAA Tournament. Most fans would be content with that after having to suffer through the last 4 years and I don't think that is an unrealistic bar.
Your concern is also based upon what is an unlikely supposition...that none of these guys are conditioning/working out. The college transfers have been on campus for a while now and the pros are pros. Pro players don't move into dorms 6 months before the season and have organized team workouts for months on end. They generally handle their own conditioning. Sometimes at the team facilities, but not always. And not always in an organized team fashion. Pro and veteran players don't need as much "ramp up" time. We are still three months away from the start of the season.
Regardless, I'm fine with Wade taking a novel approach this season. What is the downside risk? That LSU is not a championship contender and that they are the worst program in the SEC? They ALREADY are/were that. As has been discussed, including by Wade himself, the opportunity to add experienced pro players to a college roster may be over after this season. So why not take advantage while you have the opportunity?
Again, the only fans voicing "concern" are coincidentally those who spent the last 4 years bending themselves in pretzels trying to explain the dreadful results on ANYTHING but the HC being awful. Wade gets the full benefit of the doubt. Why? Because (a) we've seen him win at LSU and everywhere he's been for 12 years and (b) things can't be any worse than they were the last four years.
re: Explanation for “Piped-In Music”
Posted by Alt26 on 8/11/26 at 1:51 pm to Yeti_Chaser
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the bad doesn't play the explicit language either. The fans add it to both
the crowd doesn't chant "bitch" unison to the point that it can be heard throughout the stadium over the music. That's EXACTLY what happens when neck, and now other band songs, are played.
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Hes a hybrid but hes still a tight end. I would guess in 12 regular season games 50-60 catches. For between 600-700 yds and 8-10 tds. He is going to be a huge redzone target for us and with that hes not going to be putting up 15-20 yds/catch. Would not surprise me if he leads the team in receptions, targets, and touchdowns but not yards.
I think your numbers are a pretty good target for 12 games.
Last season Wright (OM TE) was their 5th leading receiver with 39 catches, 635 yards, and 5 TDs over 15 games. That comes out to about 31 catches, 500 yards, 4 TDs in 12 games.
Green is a much better talent and bigger mismatch than Wright. Even when Green is technically "covered" he isn't because of his size. LSU was so bad offensively last season they essentially told the defense they were throwing the ball to Green 1-on-1 and it didn't matter. Kiffin/Weise are going to find ways to get him the ball...a lot
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There’s also word that Boerne along with the Umps and ESPN broadcast has already left Waco
Probably a good thing. There was close to a 0% chance there would not be some degree of physical altercation between at least a few parents. Particularly if the OK team won.
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Its Derek Carr
IMO, it is this.
Draft picks always come with a degree of uncertainty and no GM bats .1000. Plus, it's easy to judge in hindsight while the initial decision was made without the benefit of hindsight.
The big FA signings in the Brees era at least had some rationale behind them. The Saints were trying to win championships while they had a HOF QB at his peak. But for an awful call in 2018 the Saints likely get that 2nd championship.
The Carr signing though was dumb without the need for hindsight. The Saints realistic championship window had closed, Payton had left, and the Saints didn't really have the "liquidity" to sign an expensive QB who one of the worst franchises in football had given up on. The likelihood of that plan having success was low from day 1.
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He got saved by Carr retiring
This. If Carr doesn't retire the "note" on him is still somewhat large, thus deferring the opportunity to try to rebuild. Instead of going into this season with some optimism and what appears to be a healthy salary cap outlook next season for the first time in years, the Saints would likely be one of the worst teams in the league and still a few years away from a good financial/cap picture.
re: Explanation for “Piped-In Music”
Posted by Alt26 on 8/11/26 at 10:21 am to Yeti_Chaser
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If that were true they wouldn't have been piping in bitch I'm from Louisiana the last 20 years
Technically the explicit language is edited out.
While I don't think the desire of the students (and other trashy people) to yell out the "neck" chant is the sole reason for the increase in music, it's certainly a consideration. Whether you agree with it or not, LSU doesn't want the chant in the stadium. Given that the student have taken it upon themselves to chant in connection with other band songs besides "neck", it further increases the piped in music. In part, the fans who love the "neck" chant are to blame for the increase in the piped in music.
On the whole, students and players like the "piped in music"...even if I don't. They haven't grown up with the tradition of the band. That is your future customers, so the business caters to them. Not unlike the most emphasize advertising demographic is late teens/early adults.
That is the nature of the entertainment business. It always changes to meet the evolving norms of society.
re: Little League Baseball!!!
Posted by Alt26 on 8/11/26 at 9:55 am to ProjectP2294
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This just seems more egregious than that though for some reason I can't really quantify or explain.
Probably because it feels more like a Sorsby situation than other eligibility challenges. Here, my appreciation was the OK team was essentially disqualified for breaking league rules...similar to Sorsby who was initially eligible to play before breaking rules. That's unlike guys like Pavia and Chambliss who were out of eligibility but petitioned for more.
While both may be distasteful, in general people find someone who was punished for breaking a rule yet took efforts to avoid accountability for their actions to be more egregious. That's why you saw the near universal backlash against Sorsby/Texas Tech.
If it turns out the OK gets got a raw deal and were improperly disqualified, that's one thing. But given another team from the same city/league/district was accused of similar behavior, it seems a "coincidence" is unlikely
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Pretty sure if you asked this same reporter about Chambliss last year at this time, he's not saying "Guy isn't the level Ole Miss is used to in recent year"
Of course. But it is not unreasonable to suggest a guy is not at the level of best player in the country like Burrow and Daniels were at their peak when he (Leavitt) has never been that.
Personally, I think Leavitt will be good because EVERY starting QB under Lane has been good. Now, I think that is probably more in line with Jaxson Dart good rather than 2019 Burrow or 2023 Daniels good, but still good.
If we are being honest, Leavitt did play a SEC team last season. One of the worst in the league. And he wasn't good. 10/22, 82 yards, 2 INTs.
It's ok to take an optimistic but wait and see approach.
On its own the WNBA doesn't exist. No matter how much ESPN and the other sports media want to push it or pretend there is demand for it, the demand just isn't there. So they are taking the "shock value" approach of creating/exaggerating "drama" in hopes of drawing attention. The media LOVES to create/exaggerate race based drama. While there is zero doubt some of the leagues players, based solely on race, do not like the fact that some other players are getting a lot of attention, it is probably not that widespread. However, the media wants it to be and creates the image of "high volume" because it draws attention and the league doesn't care because it needs all of the attention it can get.
Rest easy though. The shelf life left on 2026 WNBA is about two weeks. The football sucks all of the air out of the room
Rest easy though. The shelf life left on 2026 WNBA is about two weeks. The football sucks all of the air out of the room
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There’s not really anything wrong with these comments. I don’t think it’s crazy to say he won’t be what LSU has had at QB recently (Burrow & Daniels). He can still be very good and not come close to that level.
Then the Pavia comment sounds bad because he’s turned into a huge douche, but on the field Pavia was a baller
This.
It's not unreasonable to opine he's not at the level of Burrow or Daniels when they were at their best at LSU. Now, if the opinion is he's not as good as guys like Nussmier, Johnson, Etling, etc, then that is a different discussion.
Pavia also created a lot of issues with his off-script play making ability. I mean Vandy went 10-2 last season. That doesn't happen without Pavia.
Some (many) fans see ANY opinion that isn't expressly glowing about LSU and reflexive bristle with anger without actually evaluating that the statement might be somewhat reasonable.
re: Anonymous SEC coach on Trinidad Chambliss
Posted by Alt26 on 8/10/26 at 7:36 pm to SulphursFinest
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Lane should get credit for Chambliss.
Also, Chambliss is a dude.
Every QB who played under Kiffin was a “dude”. This will be everyone’s chance to see if one can be a “dude” without Kiffin (or his OC orchestrating).
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