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How in the hell does lsu score 34 points ?


LSU just had a game where their QB went 18/21, got to the redzone multiple times....and scored NINE points.

The entire offensive approach and execution is beyond bad. LSU has only scored more than 25 points once in 9 games...vs. a FCS school. As bad as Arkansas defense is, LSU's offense is probably worse.
If you are a HC with moderate success and at a school that currently likes you, NOW is the market to try to leverage a better contract.

Florida, LSU, Arkansas, Auburn, Penn St. are all in the market for a "championship coach" (well, maybe not Arkansas). Smart, Day, Deboer, Cignetti, Elko, Lanning, etc, etc, aren't leaving their current jobs. That means the pool of "acceptable" candidates for those schools is pretty small.
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Arkansas sucks, and our defense is solid.


Arkansas's defense is bad. But their offense is pretty good and they have a QB who can run. LSU's defense was able to stop Arkansas last season. But a lot of that had to do with turnovers. It was a 16-10 game late in the 3rd when Weeks made his great INT and set LSU up at the GL to go up 23-10.

LSU offense is MUCH worse than it was last season.

In SEC games the FEWEST points Ark has scored this season is 24. They've averaged 28 ppg. The most LSU has scored is 25 (with a garbage TD vs. A&M)

In a battle of the resistible force vs. the moveable object is it out of the question Arkansas can put up 28 and LSU can't get above that?

re: Picking up at the Bar

Posted by Alt26 on 11/12/25 at 3:25 pm to
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Dillingham and Jed Fisch are better coaches than 3/4 of those.


It's hard to see Fisch leaving a Washington for LSU when his alma mater, Florida, is also in the market. LSU would be a step up for Dillingham, but there's always that pull of "home" ASU will have over anyone else.
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they should have just paid Kelly his money and been done with it.


Presumably LSU intends to do that....one monthly payment at a time, per the contract.

LSU doesn't have to cut a single check for $54M

re: Here’s what I know 11-11

Posted by Alt26 on 11/12/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Lane has had a raise offer sitting on his desk for a while now.


And that offer only gets bigger the more desperate the other programs become.

Let it sit while showing interest in other jobs until you get the point Ole Miss says the offer is their best and final. At that point he will decide if he wants to take OM's best offer, or go elsewhere.

He may NEVER be as hot a commodity as he is now. That's why he should leverage this opportunity for all that it's worth. He'd be a fool not to.

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I understand what you’re saying but it’s almost makes his resume stronger. He gets more and is producing accordingly


Perhaps. Or you could say it's a bit like Gonzaga (though not quite to that extreme) in basketball in the WCC. They are getting far better players than everyone else in the rest of the conf., which gives them a competitive advantage.
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Every coach is benefitting from needing to spend to get players.


True.

But the discrepancy between what TTU is doing compared to the rest of the Big 12 is much, much greater than the discrepancy between SEC teams.

(Per 247) The No. 1 raked transfer class was LSU. No. 2 was Texas Tech.

The next highest ranked SEC transfer classes behind LSU were:

(4) Ole Miss
(7) Missouri
(8) Auburn
(10) Kentucky
(12) Oklahoma
(15) South Carolina
(16) Arkansas
(18) Miss. St.

The next highest ranked Big 12 class behind TTU was

(19) Colorado

If you look at it from a player rating average perspective, TTU was ranked 4th. The next highest Big 12 team: (29) Colorado.

TTU signed 7 of the top 100 rated transfers. No one else in the Big 12 singed more than 2

re: Eli Drinkwitz - PSA

Posted by Alt26 on 11/12/25 at 1:23 pm to
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What is Kiffin? He prob only has 2-3 wins if that. There is a clear divide between the upper echelon SEC teams.


Since 2020, Kiffin is 7-9 vs ranked teams (at the time the game was played)

Of those 7 wins (not counting 2 this season over LSU and Oklahoma)

1 was vs. Arkansas that finished 8-4
1 was vs. A&M that finished 8-4
1 was vs. Kentucky that finished 7-5
1 was vs. LSU that finished 9-3

And until this season (at OU) NONE of those wins were on the road.

Also, if you just focus on THIS season, Kiffin's wins are against

Kentucky (2-5)
Arkansas (0-5)
LSU (2-4)
S. Carolina (1-6)
Oklahoma (3-2)







I'm not saying Drinkwitz should be LSU's next coach. But it's ironic for the OP to make this case against Drink...while in the same breath have many LSU fans wanting to make Kiffin the highest paid HC in college football.

re: ESPN and ABC gone from Youtube TV

Posted by Alt26 on 11/12/25 at 12:31 pm to
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ill I be able to get the games that come on ABC through the ESPN app?


ABC is free over the air. You can watch it on your TV with a $15-$20 antenna.
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you can argue saban was a very averge big ten coach up until his last year where mich st went 9-2.

mcguire's win % much higher than nick's at mich st. I seem some parallels in personality.


The difference is Texas Tech has a former player/booster who is giving a TON of money to the program, allowing TTU to sign players they ordinarily couldn't sign. Without that competitive advantage, McGuire was just an average HC. That booster isn't going to move with McGuire to a new school and there wouldn't be a huge spending gap between SEC schools as there is in the Big 12 with TTU outspending everyone by a somewhat significant margin.

Nick, at least, had been a HC prior to Mich. State and coached in the NFL for multiple years before taking the LSU job. McGuire was a HS coach before Aranda hired him
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Wouldn't suprise me to see more coaches leave the college game for professional (all sports)


Of course. Pro sports provides a better quality of life. In the professional ranks, the coach doesn't have to constantly travel to recruit his roster 365 days a year. He also doesn't have to recruit is current players to stay beyond one season. He doesn't have to deal with his players constantly trying to leverage him for a new "contract". Sometimes on a weekly basis.

As a pro coach you get an actual offseason. In college you win a championship and have to turn around the next day to recruit new players. And the job security is no better than in the pro leagues

Most coaches just want to coach. The pros allows them to do that more than in college where they are forced to be HC, recruiter, fundraiser, and GM,

re: LSU fans - serious question

Posted by Alt26 on 11/12/25 at 9:16 am to
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He can’t recruit well.


I'd argue this isn't as important as it used to be. Previously a HC had to build relationships and constantly cater to players, parents, HS coaches, etc. Now, it's more of a business negotiation. LSU worked their arse off to recruit Bryce Underwood. They developed a relationship with him over the course of multiple years. He was "committed" to LSU for a year. Hell, LSU let their OC walk, after having the #1 offense in the nation, in order to keep the QB coach that was seen as critical for landing Underwood. In the end, Underwood just did what most pro players do. He took the best salary offer.

One may argue LSU and Kelly paid dearly by choosing a perceived recruiting advantage over coaching ability in choosing Sloan as OC. So in this era of college football is it more important to have the better strategic/technical HC than a great "recruiter"?
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and like the rest of the season, we are going to squander it on Nuss


LSU may have no choice but to go with Nuss.

Nothing has been said, and I doubt he would say so publicly, but there is a possibility that Van Buren could chose to "opt out" of the next two games. He's played in 3 games. He can only play in one more without losing his ability to RS. That extra year of eligibility is bigger now, more than ever. Not because it gives him another year to "develop". But because it gives him another year to earn money as a college player. If you aren't a likely NFL draft pick, college is your window to maximize your earnings playing football.

I'm sure MVB got decent money to come to LSU to the backup when he likely could have gone elsewhere and started given his experience at MSU. LSU is not going to be a playoff team. So there is probably a thought of why burn this year when, if I sit vs Arkansas and WKU, I can still play vs. OU (if needed) and the bowl game and still have 3 more years to get paid....be it at LSU or another school.
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Haven’t we learned from the BK experience? LSU needs to hire someone hungry who is ASCENDING and not another older coach who may or may not have something left in the tank.
No to Dibbo Dabo Doo.


LSU, well really any school, needs to hire a HC that is adaptable. There is no real continuity in the sport now. The previous manner of recruiting blue chip HS prospects and developing them over the course of 2-3 years is over. Give me the guy who can bring in a new roster, adapt his approach to fit the strengths/weakness of that roster, then turn around and do it all over again the next season, maybe with a significantly different approach. Guys that are stubborn and want to do things THEIR way in accordance with THEIR "culture" will get left behind. The players have leverage and mobility. Accept it. Fit their strengths. Don't demand square pegs fit into round holes.
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42 here... this is probably the first one that caught my eye


Good lord, you would have been roughly 11 years old in 94. There wasn’t ANY notable event you were aware of prior to that?

For me it’s the Challenger explosion and, for whatever reason, baby Jessica

re: Here’s what I know 11-11

Posted by Alt26 on 11/11/25 at 7:14 pm to
1. Sexton is not a fool. Nor does he only have two clients. He also knows he has a desperate LSU with no “list” beyond Saban and Kiffin. That means he’s going continue to dangle Saban’s name to LSU to get information on how much money LSU has to spend on realistic candidates. There’s no realistic negotiations taking place. It’s just a fact finding mission for Sexton.

2. Kiffin is the “belle of the ball”. That means he’s going to make everyone think they have a shot with the SINGULAR purpose of getting is price as high as possible. At that point he will decide what to do…which is likely stay Ole Miss as the highest paid HC.

Sexton will then use the information he’s learned about LSU and apply it to the negotiations with other clients. LSU will still need a HC. But now Sexton will know how much money LSU actually has to spend.

LSU is foolish for even getting sucked in to the faux interest from Saban and Kiffin because all its doing is hurting their negotiating leverage
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So, is this the Louisiana that they want LSU to look more like?


The bozos penning this article would advocate for a return of Ed Orgeron. No coach "looks" more like Louisiana than Orgeron. Plus (because no other major program in any other state would consider hiring him as an HC) he would accept a "fiscally conservative" contract the "taxpayer" purportedly demand.

I'm not saying O is the first choice, or even the 7th choice. But with people with some degree of power sharing the mindset set forth in these articles, he's not a non-consideration. A fact that would make LSU look like Louisiana more than any of these ding-dongs could imagine.
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To hire the best coaches


You have to in order to hire the most "in demand" coaches. "Best" is relative. The in demand coaches hold all of the negotiating leverage. BK didn't NEED to leave ND. He was winning and ND wasn't looking to get rid of him. LSU NEEDED a HC, and the fans/donors demanded "only the best".

4 years ago LSU fans would have been furious if LSU hired Georgia's DC who had never been a HC. Now, because of the BK failure, LSU fans will be more open to other options. That opens up the market to where there is less need to give a big money guaranteed contract because the supply of potential coaches is much greater.
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Lol that was written by a Landry simp. For example this never happened:


Donors were already fed up with Alleva because of the 2015 - 2016 Miles circus, combined with the fact that despite all of the posturing, LSU ended up hiring a HC (Orgeron) no one else in America would have hired.

Then, in March of 2019, Alleva suspended Wade at the end of LSU's best regular season in nearly 40 years. The crowd at the season finale vs. Vanderbilt was brutal towards Alleva. The donors sided with Wade and pushed Alleva out. F. King soon followed

Flash forward to spring of 2025. Wade is kicking arse at McNeese while LSU basketball sucks. A group of SW La. "money people" and Landry donors decided they had the muscle to get Wade back to LSU. Landry supported the push because he could look like the hero for bringing Wade back to LSU. Tate and Woodward shut the push down quickly. That defiance of the governor's wishes was a mortal sin and Tate was told to go elsewhere. Once the football season collapsed, the Governor's supporters saw an opportunity to throw Woodward out with the bathwater because everyone agreed BK needed to go.

In short, Will Wade may be one of the most influential people in LSU sports history. He was at the center of pushes to get rid of two presidents and two ADs