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Texas reportedly offering transfer "“first-round draft pick-level NIL money".
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:21 pm
The guy in question is Quin Ewers of Ohio State, who was last year's #1 rated highschool quarterback.
The report comes from Texas insider Geoff Ketchum of Orangebloods.com.
Is this legal? How will we compete against that?
Why don't they just offer Bryce 20 million cash to transfer?
The report comes from Texas insider Geoff Ketchum of Orangebloods.com.
Is this legal? How will we compete against that?
Why don't they just offer Bryce 20 million cash to transfer?
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:34 pm to RiverCityTider
You can't use NIL to recruit nor should the school be involved. NILs only get reported to schools.
You could say that "our players get big NIL deals."
But you can't say "if you come here we'll give you $20 million."
You could say that "our players get big NIL deals."
But you can't say "if you come here we'll give you $20 million."
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:37 pm to RiverCityTider
you mean this?....
Geoff Ketchum
@gkketch
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Dec 7
Word on the street is that first round draft pick-level NIL money is on the table for Quinn Ewers if he chooses Texas as his transfer destination.
The weaponization on the NIL front is fully underway.
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You realize, of course, that the institutions can not do this. It's the supporters that find the loopholes that can do it. This wide open b.s. will be reeled in somehow in due time. Unfortunately, the end game may be NFL farm league. I wouldn't be surprised if, eventually, the Universities decided to de-emphsize sports. Actually enforcing entrance requirements and ceasing athletic scholorships would be 2 quick and easy routes to that. Austin, in particular, is full of far left socialists. Hell, they don't even like football.
Geoff Ketchum
@gkketch
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Dec 7
Word on the street is that first round draft pick-level NIL money is on the table for Quinn Ewers if he chooses Texas as his transfer destination.
The weaponization on the NIL front is fully underway.
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You realize, of course, that the institutions can not do this. It's the supporters that find the loopholes that can do it. This wide open b.s. will be reeled in somehow in due time. Unfortunately, the end game may be NFL farm league. I wouldn't be surprised if, eventually, the Universities decided to de-emphsize sports. Actually enforcing entrance requirements and ceasing athletic scholorships would be 2 quick and easy routes to that. Austin, in particular, is full of far left socialists. Hell, they don't even like football.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:00 pm to BLG
They're going to have to figure something out. I wonder what company would be dumb enough to offer a deal like that to a kid that hasn't played? Shouldn't some companies have learned from the Spencer Rattler situation?
You might end up paying 7 figures to a guy that rides the bench and may transfer out after a year.
Ketchum is a moron though, so I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.
You might end up paying 7 figures to a guy that rides the bench and may transfer out after a year.
Ketchum is a moron though, so I would take anything he says with a grain of salt.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:16 pm to Goombaw
So the bottom line is, if anything is "on the table" at this point, it is a major recruiting violation.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:17 pm to Goombaw
I don't know - but Milo's is giving Bo Pix a bunch. And Ukulele from Clemson is getting paid by D. Pepper. Companies are basically... stupid
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:20 pm to Pastor Mike
But this guy hasn't transfered yet. They are trying to get him to transfer to Texas.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:20 pm to Goombaw
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I wonder what company would be dumb enough to offer a deal like that to a kid that hasn't played? Shouldn't some companies have learned from the Spencer Rattler situation?
You might end up paying 7 figures to a guy that rides the bench and may transfer out after a year.
If Texas boosters waste $20 million in bogus endorsement deals they won't give a shite if the next $1 million gets them a guy like Bryce. The other $20 million is just the cost of doing business. This is the inherent flaw in the NIL arrangement. It assumes that all these deals are legitimate commercial contracts when they simply aren't. Boosters are just going to go crazy with it. Boosters have always paid kids who didn't pan out. Now it's just all being done out in the open.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:32 pm to Robot Santa
The deals reportedly are just boosters setting aside money (like the OL deal at UT) to keep kids on retainer so to speak, to appear or speak if needed . Going to get crazy
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:36 pm to Goombaw
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I wonder what company would be dumb enough to offer a deal like that to a kid that hasn't played? Shouldn't some companies have learned from the Spencer Rattler situation?
You might end up paying 7 figures to a guy that rides the bench and may transfer out after a year.
this same kid already received 1.4 million from some supposed outfit called GT Sports Marketing when he signed on at Ohio State and as far as I know never played a down.
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:39 pm to RiverCityTider
I mean, this was literally the first thing I said would happen when this NIL stuff started.
Of course the schools won't be involved. It'll all be perfectly legal and on the up and up with local businesses contacting recruits and saying, hey IF you go to schoolX, we'd like to pay you.
Of course that will happen.
Of course the schools won't be involved. It'll all be perfectly legal and on the up and up with local businesses contacting recruits and saying, hey IF you go to schoolX, we'd like to pay you.
Of course that will happen.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:44 pm to RiverCityTider
God I hope they over pay for Ewers. This is going to kill their salary cap space.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:53 pm to RiverCityTider
Remember when people got mad at Saban for “bumping” into a player? My goodness that seems like such a non-issue compared to stuff like this.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:55 pm to RiverCityTider
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Texas reportedly offering transfer "“first-round draft pick-level NIL money".
I worry we're going to lose ground in this new world. Because we have passionate boosters with a lot of money..
...but not Texas, Texas A&M, Oregon money.
If it does become a bidding war--fair/by the rules or not--we're going to lose out to a few of those teams.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:03 pm to RiverCityTider
What we're seeing now with this and the news about the $50,000 per year NIL deals for Texas offensive linemen are companies who support whatever school saying, "If you go to X school, we'll give you this big NIL deal. But this big NIL deal is only open to you if you go to X school." So essentially, though the schools aren't themselves doing the paying, these guys are getting paid to go to that particular school, because that particular NIL deal is only open to them if they go to that school.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:14 pm to Grievous Angel
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I worry we're going to lose ground in this new world. Because we have passionate boosters with a lot of money..
...but not Texas, Texas A&M, Oregon money.
If it does become a bidding war--fair/by the rules or not--we're going to lose out to a few of those teams.
Alabama will play the game better than about any team, with the exception of the 3 programs you mention.
It won't be the ncaa, but some organization will be mutually agreed on to make this equitable, for lack of a better term. Naturally, 3 or 4 dominant teams, decided by money, won't work. So maybe a union or something like that, that all programs agree to. I am not sure, but I think that a contract type agreement would be legal, whereby the athlete agrees to the terms of that organization. A salary cap, if you will. If that student does not agree to the terms, he is free to pursue other avenues. That other avenue may be a NFL minor league.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:16 pm to Bear88
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The deals reportedly are just boosters setting aside money (like the OL deal at UT) to keep kids on retainer so to speak, to appear or speak if needed . Going to get crazy
Exactly. Those aren't legitimate business deals. It's literally no different than a booster 10 years ago hiring a player to "work" at his car dealership and paying him a $75,000 salary despite not showing up a single day all year. It's not at all surprising that big money boosters immediately figured out the loopholes in this nonsense.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:28 pm to RiverCityTider
There is reason A&M is landing all those top 20 recruits.
It is what it is. Until something changes, look for A&M and Texas to land the top 2 recruiting classes from now on.
It is what it is. Until something changes, look for A&M and Texas to land the top 2 recruiting classes from now on.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:31 pm to BLG
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you mean this?....
Geoff Ketchum
@gkketch
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Dec 7
Word on the street is that first round draft pick-level NIL money is on the table for Quinn Ewers if he chooses Texas as his transfer destination.
The weaponization on the NIL front is fully underway.
---------------------------------------------------------
You realize, of course, that the institutions can not do this. It's the supporters that find the loopholes that can do it. This wide open b.s. will be reeled in somehow in due time. Unfortunately, the end game may be NFL farm league. I wouldn't be surprised if, eventually, the Universities decided to de-emphsize sports. Actually enforcing entrance requirements and ceasing athletic scholorships would be 2 quick and easy routes to that. Austin, in particular, is full of far left socialists. Hell, they don't even like football.
The final iteration will be some sort of NFL farm league, maybe loosely associated with universities but where the expanded playoff money goes to the players in some capacity, NIL, the whole 9 yards in the next few decades.
I will certainly be disappointed in the changing landscape but especially once expanded playoff and super conference money starts hitting - it should be shared with the players putting their bodies on the line.
I don't really see a way of doing that outside of making some sort of NFL lite for the high quality prospects super conferences type look and just assume that will be associated with universities in some way just because of the legacy of college football.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:32 pm to RiverCityTider
This is the perfect way to build team chemistry. Do you put your head on the line catching a bad pass over the middle for an arrogant QB making $1,000,000 while you get nothing? I don’t like it.
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