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re: The “They just need time” excuse does not fly today…”

Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by wareaglepete
Siberia
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Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:12 pm to
Bottom line, not calling for Golesh firing. He has to have a chance next year. He has an uphill climb. Lots to fix. But he deserves a chance to get it working. That said, I don't like what I see so far.

But, here is the question. Point me to the very successful college coaches out there that came in and took 2-3 years to get the program built and then started to be at the top of their conference, competing for conference championships, and being a threat for a national championship?

I'll wait.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:23 pm to
I got nothing else. This makes me feel better.
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
4059 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:27 pm to
It’s game planning and execution that is the problem. The process he keeps talking about is dumb, build a winning culture. Losing has to suck for the players and the coaches and can’t be tolerated. Brown shouldn’t get to roll out there and suck without getting benched, goes for all the players. This Saban process bs was about getting the best players and booting their arse when they sucked. He couldn’t win in today’s environment because now you gotta out X and O teams and you can’t miss on talent. Offensive game plans and execution have been shite all year except UGA. Golesh should say less in his pressers. Talks to much. Just say we got beat, i didn’t have them ready and they didn’t execute. Nobody trusts you for year 2, 3 etc when you put that product on the field. Just fix it now
Posted by wareaglepete
Siberia
Member since Dec 2012
20388 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:30 pm to
I know I saw a National Championship coach today bench his QB at the half because he wasn't getting it done. Did the backup play like Peyton Manning? No. Did they end up winning? Yes.

A winning coach will do whatever they have to do. A loser will stick by and make excuses for his guy. That is G5 level bullshite.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
46119 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:32 pm to
The good ones coach like they are a week away from being fired.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
10290 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:32 pm to
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Point me to the very successful college coaches out there that came in and took 2-3 years to get the program built 


There are a crap ton of elite CFB coaches that took 2 years to have success, are you high?

Saban and Pat Dye just for two off the top of my head. Now there are very few good coaches that don't at least have solid 8 win seasons in year two. Though Saban would of course be an example since he was super mediocre his first three years at Michigan St.
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
816 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:32 pm to
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Im sure all of you could have built a much better roster being hired 4 days before early signing and having already worked the entire year scouting for lower tier talent for a lower tier team.



I would like to think I would have at least thought twice about bringing in Brown or paying him so much - after seeing his throwing motion. It's horrible.

I know I would have at least brought in a competitor at QB or someone at least capable of playing a few series.

I would have emphasized raw talent or star power over "culture." so I wouldn't have automatically brought in the whole USF OL.

There is such naivety around "culture" with Kirby Smart, Nick Saban, Bobby Bowden, Pat Dye etc. All about talent - you're gonna have a few problems.
Posted by wareaglepete
Siberia
Member since Dec 2012
20388 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:37 pm to
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There are a crap ton of elite CFB coaches that took 2 years to have success, are you high?


Crap ton? Where are they retard? You call me an idiot. Give me some examples that aren't from fricking Knute Rockne times idiot. We are talking about now.

Saban (do you really want to argue when he was at bama or lsu?), Pat Dye? Are you slow? Do you really think we are dealing with the same game in this time? You want to be right so bad you make a fool of yourself. Do you have missing chromosomes?
This post was edited on 10/31/26 at 6:40 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
46119 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:38 pm to
Northwestern, UCLA and UK are all showing signs of improvement
Posted by wareaglepete
Siberia
Member since Dec 2012
20388 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 6:40 pm to
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Northwestern, UCLA and UK are all showing signs of improvement


Year 1 even. But I'm fricking high. So many fricknuts on this board.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
10290 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 7:03 pm to
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You call me an idiot. 


I didn't call you an idiot, but you certainly act like one on this message board with responses like you just made.

Joey McGuire went 8-5 and 7-6 at Texas Tech his first two years with a 10-8 big 12 record, and he has them as a playoff team.

Cristobal went 5-7 and 7-6 his first two years at Miami, and was in the championship game last year and has them rolling.

Those are both coaches hired in 2022, that recent enough for you dumbass?

I personally wanted us to hire Stein if we went with an offensive coach, and Chesney if we went with a defensive coach. And while I'm not remotely sold on Golesh and not happy with our roster, acting like he's a complete failure because he didn't immediately turn us around is just silly.

Golesh will have good chance to go 7-5 this year unless we completely fall apart. And while that won't give us warm fuzzies, it doesn't mean he can't be successful here. He will have to show some massive improvement in year two though.



Posted by SupperClubDrunkBus
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Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/31/26 at 7:11 pm to
quote:



does not fly today…




You WANT so badly to fly

You STRIVE so hard to fly

You may actually BELIEVE you can fly

Turns out?…

…You can’t “FLY” for jack-$h!t



Posted by NewYrkTiger
New York City
Member since Jul 2023
433 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 8:19 pm to
We are all grasping at straws…
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
25072 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 8:24 pm to
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Those are both coaches hired in 2022, that recent enough for you dumbass?

Charles Kelly, which everyone laughed at, has his squad at 6-2 and 4-0 in conference.

But he was too old.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
46119 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 8:53 pm to
There is no reason for us to be this bad. We had enough talent on the roster to beat OM.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
21561 posts
Posted on 10/31/26 at 8:58 pm to
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Point me to the very successful college coaches out there that came in and took 2-3 years to get the program built and then started to be at the top of their conference, competing for conference championships, and being a threat for a national championship?


Kirby was 6-6 year 1. Should’ve been 5-7 but you know, GusShortBus crapped his pants.
This post was edited on 10/31/26 at 8:59 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Gulf of America / Sarasota FL
Member since Sep 2010
72455 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 8:05 am to
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Golesh has a lot of work to do in the offseason. Lots and lots of work.



It will be a marker for him. I honestly think he was put in a bad position this year. Bringing his own crew aboard with him was probably a safety net for him. It didnt work. Or maybe it did who knows. Not sure what Auburn would have been like had we counted on what we had and what we could recruit instead of him bringing USF with him


But what he does next year is a massive marker for him and I would bet he absolutely knows it



Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
23725 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 11:49 am to
I think we make it to a bowl game this year. That alone is an improvement but also shows how down we are.

Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4685 posts
Posted on 11/1/26 at 2:04 pm to
Pretty much. Expecting more than 6-6 or maybe 7-5 this year was pretty much guaranteed to be a pipedream. The UGA win have us some wiggle room on that at least.

I would like to see the team play a little better but that's obviously going to require time and more recruiting.
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