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re: that was a season. | 27-7 (13-5)

Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:33 am to
If we’re losing a guy because we just aren’t the highest bidder then you just have to accept it for what it is.
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 9:44 am to
Agree Smoke. Bruce got us in the final 3 with a Kansas and duke, then it’s up to what the the financial package is that we can put together compared to theirs. In this case KU’s bag won out.

This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 10:26 am
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4596 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:06 am to
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What tha frick. What do you consider sustained success? You do remember this is Auburn basketball correct?


Auburn basketball has historically been bad because the school did not care about basketball or put any actual effort into it. It was not bad because Auburn has some inherent inability to compete in basketball. There is a BIG difference.

That is no longer the case. A lot of effort and resources are being put into basketball. Bruce Pearl is one of the highest paid coaches in the country. This means that expectations are rightfully different.

I don't understand this weak-arse deflection to revert to "remember this is Auburn basketball" as if Bruce Pearl in 2023 is trying to compete with a shoe-string budget. He isn't some underprivileged coach performing miracles in a no-win situation.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:21 am to
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I don't understand this weak-arse deflection to revert to "remember this is Auburn basketball" as if Bruce Pearl in 2023 is trying to compete with a shoe-string budget. He isn't some underprivileged coach performing miracles in a no-win situation.




Last year, the reteric was "We are just glad to be here" when talking about losing in the first round of the tournaments.

"But we never got here before"


I questioned that by saying we should be doing better than just getting there


Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24049 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:38 am to
Given the roster construct last season, I don’t think it was wrong to be happy with how far that team made it. I don’t think many thought we didn’t whiff on our guards. It looks like Bruce has taken steps to correct that. Losing Flory to a higher bid should be no reason to panic.
Posted by attalla
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 10:56 am to
I still believe that post season is about guard play. As you say Bruce is getting that corrected.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:24 am to
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If we’re losing a guy because we just aren’t the highest bidder then you just have to accept it for what it is.


With Kansas or Duke, we could be the highest bidder and still lose a player. Their programs are much more historic than ours.

Admitting we need a big bag is just a fact.

If we lost a football player to Kansas or Duke, I would agree that it had to be a big big big bag that dropped.

Kansas may have just gotten close to our offer and it was enough.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:27 am to
Meanwhile there was a 5* 6'8 PF in Augusta (Derrion Reid who I mentioned a few times, just moved to Cali to play on prolific prep though)that we have had basically no communication with outside of offering him over a year ago.

My issue isn't with Bruce.. its with the rest of the staff that isn't getting the job done who all just got promoted. I REALLY wish we would have brought more new blood instead. We haven't been recruiting HS to the level we should be and on top of that we're seen our shooting struggles the past few years. Some of these assistants are coasting.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5548 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:29 am to
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Given the roster construct last season,
This is the issue though. Why are we having such an problem with this the past couple of years?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:41 am to


Because no one wants to say it.

The logical answer is fire Bruce





















James the arena janitor. He’s bad luck.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70819 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:42 am to
Agree. Who is in charge of the roster?
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9942 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:52 am to
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With Kansas or Duke, we could be the highest bidder and still lose a player. Their programs are much more historic than ours.


Which is fine and I don't think is an issue in a vacuum. The issue is Bruce doesn't seem to be going after the next level of top prospects and developing them anymore.

Bruce seems to either want top level prospects or to go to the portal. The problem is we aren't getting either really, because we are missing on top transfer guys to other programs as well.

I just don't see how Bruce's strategy is viable long term. We are trying to recruit like Kentucky/Duke but not being able to. Losing Bidunga is whatever, but losing Ace Bailey to Rutgers was a pretty big WTF.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 8/13/23 at 11:58 am to
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I just don't see how Bruce's strategy is viable long term



Fire Bruce











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Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47645 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:15 pm to
This is a lot of fighting caused by a guy that a week ago was a long shot for us to land anyways
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:20 pm to
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its with the rest of the staff that isn't getting the job done who all just got promoted

Fyi the two roles that just got promoted are positions that aren’t allowed to recruit so no real reason to hire some ace recruiter for an X’s and O’s role.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9942 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Fire Bruce


Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
28447 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:31 pm to
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The problem is we aren't getting either really, because we are missing on top transfer guys to other programs as well.

If you guys are expecting him or any coach to bat 1.000 then you’re out of your mind. He’s not going to get everyone, but he’s shown he can get enough of the guys he wants.

You run the risk of the portal not having great talent when you rely on it heavily but so far every class has had really good players looking to go elsewhere. Also worth noting that portal guys have a much lower chance of transferring out, as opposed to the freshman who isn’t happy with their minutes.

Teams like Duke and Kansas are going to continue getting great rosters, but for the other 98% of teams coaches are earning their salaries more than ever with roster management.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52699 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:39 pm to
We are not at a level to question whether Bruce is capable.He will be our best ever.

We are caoable of speculating Bruce's actions.

We are not Duke and Kansas and we know Bruce put three years into that prospect. There is nothing else Bruce can do about that. I wouldnt want him to stop recruiting him just because we are competing against blue bloods .... Just dont put all your eggs into one basket. That would be the not viable aspect that's probably already affected our guard play for so long.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52699 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:43 pm to
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If you guys are expecting him or any coach to bat 1.000 then you’re out of your mind. He’s not going to get everyone, but he’s shown he can get enough of the guys he wants.

Nobody expects him to bat 100 percent but our misses are pretty damn big. Including two five star locks this year.

You could probably make an all star team out of them and that includes whitey snd Trae. He is the one putting effort into these recruitments, so he is more disappointed than we are. We have merely been on our couch and dedicated to our 34 dollar payment.
This post was edited on 8/13/23 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24049 posts
Posted on 8/13/23 at 12:47 pm to
I mean he bet on some guys that ended up getting us to the round of 32 and missed. He’s fixing it. Y’all are acting like the team was pathetic.
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