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re: Am I the only person not wanting Deion?
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:06 pm to lowspark12
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:06 pm to lowspark12
quote:what does that have to do with being a media darling? The guy said he didnt want deion bc he is a media "clown", which to me means the guy doesnt like Deions personality. Yet he is OK with Bruce, who by and large is a media "clown"
Basketball is a different animal, especially at a place like auburn.
i prefer using darling instead of clown bc I am not trying to shite on someone for being well liked by the media.
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Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:07 pm to metafour
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If he was some flash in the pan like Bryan Harsin
Harsin won the Sunbelt at Arky St in one year he was there as head coach. He had 10 win seasons 5 out of 7 years at Boise St. When he was OC at Boise their record was 61-5. Hardly a flash in the pan.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:15 pm to AuburnTigers
Bc you can get away with far more antics when you’re a basketball coach… that’s just the way it is.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:15 pm to i am dan
Deion would be the CEO and let his assistants do their jobs. Unlike Gus
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:21 pm to Poker Dough
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:22 pm to SingleMalt1973
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Harsin won the Sunbelt at Arky St in one year he was there as head coach. He had 10 win seasons 5 out of 7 years at Boise St. When he was OC at Boise their record was 61-5. Hardly a flash in the pan.
Bryan Harsin has never once built anything in his entire career. He went 7-5 at Arkansas State after he followed Freeze (who went 10-2) and Malzahn (who went 9-3). So he inherited a winning team and made them worse in his one season there. Then he went to Boise State, a program that was already long developed and winning, and managed to drive the bus.
When I state flash in the pan, I mean that all his "talk" is hollow and for show. It works with a team at a lower level that is already primed to win. If you have a team that is already winning, there isn't much work to be done to motivate because the roster is already used to winning and what it takes to achieve that.
Deion Sanders on the other hand inherited a team that was 4-8 in the season prior to him arriving at Jackson State. They were 5-5 in the season before that. They were 3-8 the season prior to that.
In his 2nd season on the job they went 11-2 and won the conference title. In his 3rd season they are currently 8-0.
What that strongly suggests is that his ability to motivate is for real: none of those kids had any exposure to winning before they got there. You saw what happened with Harsin trying to motivate from a position of weakness: nothing. He's all talk and no results.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:25 pm to metafour
Nailed it 
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:29 pm to metafour
He was at Boise 7 years. A football program doesn’t get set to cruise control for 7 years. I will give you year one maybe but after that it’s what the coach makes it. Don’t interject your emotions into the raw data.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:30 pm to lowspark12
quote:got any examples of this two tier system of treating coaches differently based on their respective sports?
Bc you can get away with far more antics when you’re a basketball coach… that’s just the way it is.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:44 pm to SingleMalt1973
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A football program doesn’t get set to cruise control for 7 years.
I'd argue that it does when you're by far the most successful program in conferences like the WAC/MWC, at least for the last ~20 years. They haven't gone through a lot of dramatic staffing changes, and when Boise St is your best offer as a player (especially if you're from the Pacific Islands or general western US), you generally go. Harsin also had Boise on a statistically downward trajectory, and a large portion of their most active fans were not sad to see him go.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:47 pm to i am dan
+1
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:51 pm to metafour
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I don't understand what some of you are watching.
He hasn't proven anything. He signed 4 recruits that are anywhere near the level Auburn needs due to selling changing the way HBC are viewed and a ridiculous NIL deal. He probably could recruit but there are no guarantees. Saying otherwise is an assumption. It's a stupid hire based on vibes and hype. Sorry but no amount of bullet points on what might happen is going to change that
Posted on 11/2/22 at 3:54 pm to marshallcotiger
I see Deion as a last ditch, kamikaze hire.
There's nothing to support even reading his resume, if he was applying for the job, outside of hype. I don't know if you list "hype" in skills or work experience.
There's nothing to support even reading his resume, if he was applying for the job, outside of hype. I don't know if you list "hype" in skills or work experience.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:04 pm to slacker130
Honestly I'd take 2 years of fantastic recruits win or losing season just to get back to a higher talent pool. We have the crumbs of a football team the past 2 years.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:04 pm to metafour
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Elite ability to build a coaching staff.
His OC came from Nevada and was an analyst and asst QB coach
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:11 pm to TemperdTiger
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Honestly I'd take 2 years of fantastic recruits win or losing season just to get back to a higher talent pool. We have the crumbs of a football team the past 2 years.
Oh the full circle of it all
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:12 pm to SingleMalt1973
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His OC came from Nevada and was an analyst and asst QB coach
Probably an upgrade to what we had this year.
ETA: To his credit he does have a DC with NFL DC experience at a HBCU.
This post was edited on 11/2/22 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:12 pm to metafour
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70% of the games in this conference (both at home and on the road) are won by the team with the superior talent.
I think it’s even higher than that
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:13 pm to i am dan
Anyone that doesn’t want Prime sucks.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 4:17 pm to slacker130
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There's nothing to support even reading his resume, if he was applying for the job, outside of hype. I don't know if you list "hype" in skills or work experience.
You probably loved the frick out of some Harsin too.
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