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re: If Adrio Bailey hadn't disappeared for the month of December

Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Porcine Human
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:21 pm to
You want a guy who was an out away from winning a national championship last season to feel some heat?

It’s not as easy as saying “well neither have won anything of note”. Dave has actually put his teams in position to win (multiple CWS trips and one trip to the natty), while Mike hasn’t done shite in the postseason.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:22 pm to
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On the other hand Van Horn should have won a title.
I don't agree with this. We were lucky to win game 1 and were playing with house money in game 2. Without that meltdown OSU had in game 1 we'd have gotten swept. They were definitely better than us that weekend. We couldn't hit the ball at all. Obviously I would have taken the W no questions asked, but we would have "escaped" with one IMO.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:24 pm to
It would have been a frickin sweep. That isn't escaping.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:25 pm to
You need to go rewatch the games.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:26 pm to
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You want a guy who was an out away from winning a national championship last season to feel some heat?



No. I support him for the exact same reasons I support Mike. I'm just pointing out why others should support Mike for the same reasons they support Van Horn.

I value consistency.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:27 pm to
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I'm just pointing out why others should support Mike for the same reasons they support Van Horn.


Except Mike doesn't give you the same reasons to support him that Van Horn does. Van Horn has results. Mike doesn't. You aren't comparing apples to apples.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:29 pm to
How long has Van Horn been here and why doesn't he have any titles?
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:29 pm to


Eh, you have continued to be very generous to Mike and on the other hand critical of Horn. Horn doesn't get much credit for having a team that should have won the National Championship but it is noteworthy that Mike almost knocked off the National Champs.

Anyway, I've gotten sucked into this silly across sports debate. I would be a fool to continue to participate after talking about how pointless it is. Everyone have a good holidays
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:31 pm to
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How long has Van Horn been here and why doesn't he have any titles?
How long has Mike been here and why can't he win two damn games in March?
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:35 pm to
Dave Van Horn's Conference Titles: 0

Mike Anderson's Conference Titles: 0

DVH National Titles: 0

Mike Anderson's National Titles: 0

One is praised. One is derided. Only in Arkansas.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:41 pm to
I don't have to say anything. You know you're being stupid.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:44 pm to
Then why did you? I thought you were done discussing this anyways. Nobody is forcing you to click the "reply" button down there.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16011 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:50 pm to
So let me get this straight you only have 1 criteria for coaches. Championship or bust? How long until you fire someone then if they dont win a championship?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:52 pm to
Because so far your argument has been Mike's never had a losing season so he shouldn't be fired. Dave van horn has never won a championship so he and mike are on the same level. You know you actually hold a coach to a standard in between championship or bust and just being ok with a .500 record right?
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:54 pm to
No. I have two main criteria and a couple other, less important, ones as well.

#1. Give me a consistent product. Something I can count on every time out.

#2. Keep your program moving in an upward trend.

If you do those two things it is only a matter of time before the titles follow.

Van Horn is close. So is Anderson. I'm happy with both of them. Too early to judge on Morris
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16011 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:03 pm to
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upward trend
that's where never getting out of the fi4st round is a problem.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
38862 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 3:06 pm to
The basketball tournament is a crapshoot. This has been explained dozens of times. But an agenda driven detractor fails to recognize it because, well, they're biased.

Arkansas has come from the depths of hell to being in the top 3 in the entire SEC consistently. Yes, Anderson's program is trending upward. To argue otherwise is ridiculous
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6541 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 4:00 pm to
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Arkansas always gets the short end of the stick. I was flabbergasted when one of Mike's teams won MORE GAMES than our championship team one year and still didn't finish ranked. It makes no sense

It makes perfect sense. More games are played in a season now AND the SEC was a garbage basketball conference a couple of years ago, and still is.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 4:26 pm to
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One, I don't really care about baseball to begin with.
Just putting this out there since we're here trying to judge DVH.

quote:

The only reason Van Horn is any better is he has made a couple tournament runs.
"A couple". Try 5 trips to the CWS. Again, that's more than 7 teams in this conference have in their entire program's history.


Go back to momma bearing for Gafford and stop talking about baseball.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22732 posts
Posted on 12/29/18 at 4:57 pm to
Boar.. Damn man.

DVH 5 College World Series in 15 years, equals Elite 8 in Basketball

MA, 0 elite 8's in his time at Arkansas, Heck...0 Sweet 16's in his time at Arkansas. 0 Tied for conference Championships.


You are very right man, I apologize. MA has definitely been consistent.
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