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If Adrio Bailey hadn't disappeared for the month of December
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:23 pm
We'd be 11-1 right now and in the top 25. Sucks when your most veteran player can't make a layup for three weeks, but hopefully he got his slump out of the way early.
Crazy that this team is 7 points from being undefeated right now.
Crazy that this team is 7 points from being undefeated right now.
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:36 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:40 pm to Stonehog
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:57 pm to Stonehog
You have a mind full of excuses for prolonged mediocrity.
Adrio Bailey is still what he’s always was going to be, a role player.
The four position, Mike’s most critical in system, yet again doesn’t have the talent.
Adrio Bailey is still what he’s always was going to be, a role player.
The four position, Mike’s most critical in system, yet again doesn’t have the talent.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:00 am
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:01 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
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Maytheporkbewithyou
He was averaging 11 ppg going into the Western Kentucky game. He scored ZERO against WKU and we lost by 1. He scored ZERO against Georgia Tech and we lost by 4. He gets half his average and we win both those games.
Now do you have anything worthwhile to add or are you just going to keep talking out of your arse?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:03 am to RazorHawg
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You have a mind full of excuses for prolonged mediocrity.
JFC. Our most veteran player getting zero total points in our two home losses is not an excuse, it's the reason we lost those games. Are you going to blame Mike for a junior not being able to make a layup?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:13 am to Stonehog
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Adrio Bailey
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Now do you have anything worthwhile to add or are you just going to keep talking out of your arse?
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Adrio Bailey??
Stonehog, I like you dude. I really do. I'm not looking for a fight. I never thought I'd see the day where someone felt the season was going off the tracks because of Adrio Bailey though.
At this point it just seems as though some of you will never find any fault in Mike. That's fine. I turned on Bert a season ahead of most Hog fans did. I caught shite for that too. What we have with Mike is mediocre and he has hit his ceiling. We need to head the program in a new direction. It would be easier if Mike was an arsehole like Petrino was. Mike is a good guy, though, and fana seem willing to put up with the mediocrity that Mike is delivering.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:15 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
Not sure how else to put it. A starter who is averaging 11 points a game scoring TWO POINTS OVER FOUR GAMES is not on Mike. Mike is an easy scapegoat but at some point you have to expect a player to make a layup.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:25 am to Stonehog
What if the coach recruited a better player, developed a better player... If he/she didn't, could they possibly share the blame?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:29 am to Razorback Reverend
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What if the coach recruited a better player, developed a better player...
Again, he was averaging 11 points a game before he disappeared. Is Mike responsible for every shot a player makes or misses? Hell of a standard you're trying to set. Are we going to hold Van Horn accountable for every ball and strike? Chad for every completion and interception? This is the double standard that Mike has to endure and you don't even realize you're doing it.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:57 am to Stonehog
Yeah he has been beyond bad as of late.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:45 am to Stonehog
This is an if/and/buts and if a cow had nuts argument. Who's to say if he averaged 11ppg in the loses that someone else wouldn't have been in a slump?
You're making a claim in a vacuum. I'd say that you're better than this, but you're not.
If you can't see that MA is mediocre by now I don't know what to tell you.
You're making a claim in a vacuum. I'd say that you're better than this, but you're not.
If you can't see that MA is mediocre by now I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:44 am to TheOtherWhiteMeat
Stone,
The main thing that bothers me a little, with how much you support coach MA is this...
When he came here, did you not have higher expectations than what has been achieved thus far? Do you believe he has been more than satisfactory in the time he has been here?
SO... according to how you answer. There are several programs without our history, facilities, fan support that have done much better than we have since MA has been at Arkansas. Why are you so supportive considering the above?
I would like nothing better than to win an NC, get to the final 4, etc with CMA.. but he has had enough time imho to achieve more than he has here.
To be honest, I was even getting a bit bummed on Van Horn prior to this season, and Bert was pathetic, needed canned along with Long.
CCM hasn't impressed me one bit, other than recruiting at this point. But deserves 3 years as well.
At what point, with not ending the season in the top 10, 15, 20... without going to a sweet 16.. do you jump off of the CMA bandwagon> Give us your standards, please.
The main thing that bothers me a little, with how much you support coach MA is this...
When he came here, did you not have higher expectations than what has been achieved thus far? Do you believe he has been more than satisfactory in the time he has been here?
SO... according to how you answer. There are several programs without our history, facilities, fan support that have done much better than we have since MA has been at Arkansas. Why are you so supportive considering the above?
I would like nothing better than to win an NC, get to the final 4, etc with CMA.. but he has had enough time imho to achieve more than he has here.
To be honest, I was even getting a bit bummed on Van Horn prior to this season, and Bert was pathetic, needed canned along with Long.
CCM hasn't impressed me one bit, other than recruiting at this point. But deserves 3 years as well.
At what point, with not ending the season in the top 10, 15, 20... without going to a sweet 16.. do you jump off of the CMA bandwagon> Give us your standards, please.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 6:45 am to Razorback Reverend
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Give us your standards, please.
I can answer this. Look at Mike's record over the last 8 years. Stone has the same standards as the GOBN, graduate players and get to the tourney every other year.
Mike will retire here.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 8:26 am to ArHog
The fact that we have to rely so heavily on a player like Adrio is pathetic. Mike needs to be fired for that alone.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 8:52 am to Pygthagorean Theorem
Maybe morris can recruit for the basketball team too 
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:23 am to Razorback Reverend
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At what point, with not ending the season in the top 10, 15, 20..
You see, this doesn't matter to me personally. Why? Two reasons. One, what good is a top 10 finish if you don't win any titles? And two, there is a lot of bias that goes into these rankings. Arkansas always gets the short end of the stick. I was flabbergasted when one of Mike's teams won MORE GAMES than our championship team one year and still didn't finish ranked. It makes no sense.
So again, just give me a team that makes the tournament and is capable of beating anyone. Keep doing that and I'll remain happy.
You guys are assigning arbitrary goal posts when you say stuff like "didn't finish in the top ten" or "didn't make the sweet sixteen".
Those things don't fricking matter. What matters is titles. And Mike is clearly the best coach we have had here in the last TWENTY YEARS.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:30 am to Razorback Reverend
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Give us your standards, please.
Make the tournament every year. After that it's a crapshoot due to the format. All the folks saying we should have made the Sweet 16 by now are kind of interesting because it's just one more game. We can have a good season and not do well in the tournament, like last year. That was a good team, anyone arguing otherwise is a moron.
And if history is any indicator, the folks complaining about the tournament would just move the goalposts like they always do. If Mike had made three sweet 16's the same exact people would be calling for his head for not making the elite 8.
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SO... according to how you answer. There are several programs without our history, facilities, fan support that have done much better than we have since MA has been at Arkansas. Why are you so supportive considering the above?
I would like nothing better than to win an NC, get to the final 4, etc with CMA.. but he has had enough time imho to achieve more than he has here.
Why not apply this line of thinking to baseball? Look at some of the teams that have won it all since Dave has been here. Fresno? Coastal Carolina? Van Horn has had twice as much time as Mike and has what to show for it? Biggest choke job in school history. Yet people trip over themselves to suck his balls while blaming Mike when a player misses a shot. It's a double standard.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:38 am to Stonehog
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It's a double standard.
Damn straight it is. And that double standard is souring me against Dave Van Horn. He hasn't won a frickin thing since he's been here. He's had some good teams no doubt, but he isn't winning conference titles or national titles. He's considered like a legend or something to Razorback fans for being just barely better than Anderson and half these guys want Anderson out of town on a rail.
It's mind boggling to me and I seriously do wonder if racism plays a role. Of course nobody here is going to admit that they don't like Mike because he's black, but I just can't see any other way people can justify their hatred of the guy
He wins a lot of damn games. And after this season it will be 4 out of the last 5 seasons he's made tNCAA tournament. Its sheer insanity.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:43 am to TheOtherWhiteMeat
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Who's to say if he averaged 11ppg in the loses that someone else wouldn't have been in a slump?
Bailey was 0-4 in the Western Kentucky game and we lost by 1. If he makes a single shot we win the game. It's not rocket surgery.
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