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re: If Adrio Bailey hadn't disappeared for the month of December

Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:51 pm to
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Anyone with eyes to see with can see the talent level on this team is upper echelon.
It's a damn shame the coaching isn't.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:54 pm to
Yes, and as I said, I value consistency.

How long has Dave Van Horn been here and why doesn't he have any titles?
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:57 pm to
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How long has Dave Van Horn been here and why doesn't he have any titles?
You do realize this argument only digs Mike's hole deeper right? If you want titles, DVH is universes closer to getting one than Mike.

This is also disingenuous. No one is calling for Mike to win a natty this year. People just want to get out of the opening weekend for once and he can't even deliver that one time in 8 years. In year 2 DVH was in the CWS.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:58 pm to
Seems I was correct when I said he had a losing season.

26-29

Anderson has never had that sort of blemish on his resume. EVER.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:00 pm to
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Anderson has never had that sort of blemish on his resume
He also hasn't been even remotely good enough to get a team anywhere near the Elite 8 (DVH has done this 5 times), let alone the Finals.


By the way that losing season came after his fourth CWS appearance.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:01 pm to
Also, I think it's wise to focus on winning a conference titles before tackling a National Title.

When you look down Van Horn's results in the SEC you see things like TIED FOR FIFTH in the Western division. 7th in the West! 4th in the West twice!

Anderson's team is sitting at #3 in the SEC overall. Not in the West, but out of the field of 14.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:02 pm to
One of many reasons why comparing across sports is dumb

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When you look down Van Horn's results in the SEC you see things like TIED FOR FIFTH in the Western division. 7th in the West! 4th in the West twice!

Anderson's team is sitting at #3 in the SEC overall. Not in the West, but out of the field of 14.


Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:04 pm to
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He also hasn't been even remotely good enough to get a team anywhere near the Elite 8


This is disengenous. He had a team that had the eventual National Champs beat in the 2nd round a couple years ago.

It isn't honest to say that team wasn't good enough to be an elite 8 team. Good try though.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:05 pm to
LSU is historically the best baseball program in the country. Since van horn has been at Arkansas 4 DIFFERENT sec teams have won the national title. How many titles has the sec brought home in basketball in Mike's tenure?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:06 pm to
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He had a team that had the eventual National Champs beat in the 2nd round a couple years ago.
but they didn't. We had the national championship won last year in baseball but we didnt. See how this works?

Like my grandpapppy use to say about if a frog had wings...
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:07 pm to
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Also, I think it's wise to focus on winning a conference titles before tackling a National Title.


Now I definitely know you don't watch college baseball at any more than a casual level. No one gives a shite about conference titles. DVH routinely saves arms during the tournament unless we need wins to bolster seeding like last year when national seeds were on the line.
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When you look down Van Horn's results in the SEC you see things like TIED FOR FIFTH in the Western division
He also won it 4 times. How long are you going to make yourself look like an idiot?
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:09 pm to
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This is disengenous. He had a team that had the eventual National Champs beat in the 2nd round a couple years ago.
No it isn't. They lost in the round of 32. That is not the round of 8.

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It isn't honest to say that team wasn't good enough to be an elite 8 team.
They lost in the round of 32.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:09 pm to
You followed one lie with a another. Van Horn has repeatedly stated he plays to win every game.

Also, earlier you said Mike hasn't had a team "remotely close to good enough to play in the elite 8".

That is patently false.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:10 pm to
I'm bored of this now. Just gonna leave these here as my closing statement. Pick who you'd rather have.



Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:11 pm to
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We had the national championship won last year in baseball but we didnt.


This line will go ignored
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:12 pm to
Oh, it's already been established that Dave got out coached when it counted. And that Dave fricked up by mind controlling our second baseman to try to steal a pop fly meant for a right fielder.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:13 pm to
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Van Horn has repeatedly stated he plays to win every game.
I don't care what he's said. We have pitched midweek guys in the SEC tournament many times. That is fact.
Posted by rockiee
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:15 pm to
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This is disengenous. He had a team that had the eventual National Champs beat in the 2nd round a couple years ago.

It isn't honest to say that team wasn't good enough to be an elite 8 team. Good try though.

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We had the national championship won last year in baseball but we didnt. See how this works?



Can't have it both ways. You backed yourself into that corner

Of course, this is another reason why you don't bring up other sports.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:18 pm to
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You followed one lie with a another. Van Horn has repeatedly stated he plays to win every game. Also, earlier you said Mike hasn't had a team "remotely close to good enough to play in the elite 8". That is patently false.


Good God, you have to be trolling now. MA at Arkansas, 0, Zilch, notta elite 8's or conference championships. Out in round one, over and over again, IF and When he makes it.

DVH, the equivalent of elite 8, again and again... Over and over, even in the finals.... Twice in his tenure.

Since we are comparing sports.

Recruiting DVH > CMA... Just look it up.

Coaching, Dude.. DVH loses coaches all the time to MLB yet consistently gets as good, if not better. CMA is mostly stayed with inconsistent coaches DVH>CMA


Results.. LMAO CVH >CMA on a consistent basis


Dress... Finally... CMA > DVH

Salary... I don't know why, but DMA>DVH which is a damn shame. Must be because of what exactly? Not results, Recruiting, Or Coaching... hmmmm
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 2:19 pm to
That isn't a corner. You see, I'm not trying to argue that that was any special feat by Anderson putting North Carolina on the ropes. It's just a simple fact that that team was good enough to play in the elite 8.

On the other hand Van Horn should have won a title. He had it won. But he didn't. And in the end, neither coach won.
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