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I was about to blow a gasket and say the same things you did in a much less kind way. 
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Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:20 pm to rockiee
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. In the same way I accuse you of being racist against white people
Well, go ahead and call it if you'd like. But I'm a white guy myself and I already explained why I think Van Horn should feel some heat.
He isn't as consistent as Anderson and hasn't won anything important.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:22 pm to BoarEd
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I already explained why I think Van Horn should feel some heat.
He calls our basketball fans idiots but wants a coach that was an out away from a Natty a few months ago to get heat.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:24 pm to BoarEd
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Well, go ahead and call it if you'd like.
Huh? I said that would be stupid. Why would I do that?
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I already explained why I think Van Horn should feel some heat.
Right and posters have explained why Mike needs some heat. Doesn't really matter to me either way as long as we keep the ignorant racist argument out.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:25 pm to Drewbie
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He calls our basketball fans idiots but wants a coach that was an out away from a Natty a few months ago to get heat.
Hey, as someone else already pointed out, it was Van Horns fault that Shaddy injected himself in that play and fricked the whole thing up to begin with.
It's called Extreme Leadership. Read a frickin book, would ya? Geezus.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:26 pm to Razorback Reverend
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I was about to blow a gasket and say the same things you did in a much less kind way.
Thanks for saving me from making an arse out of myself again
These arguments force people into these strange places to try to prove points. It pushes posters to certain extremes. It is sad that it happens but it does.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:27 pm to BoarEd
Van horn has never had a listing season the season your talking about is the only season we havent made the ncaa tournament under van horn but we still won more than we lost. Just dont ever talk about baseball is you dont care about it because you clearly no very little about the sport. No van horn should not feel heat because
the season your talking about is the only season we havent made the ncaa tournament under van horn but we still won more than we lost. Just dont ever talk about baseball is you dont care about it because you clearly no very little about the sport. No van horn should not feel heat because quote:that's all o ask of mike and he hasn't done it! Theres only so many teams that win championships. You dont fire a coach just because he hasn't won a title. Dvh has been way closer than mike ever has at any school. You can combine Mike's time here and mizzou and he has never sniffed a season like van horns. So if you don't like baseball fine, just leave it out of your argument. If you think basketball is a crap shoot then you have no idea how bad it is in baseball
The only reason Van Horn is any better is he has made a couple tournament runs.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:27 pm to BoarEd
So it was also his fault they were playing in the National Championship to begin with right?
Yeah let's fire a coach with consistent top 10 recruiting classes that's nearly doubled the amount of times our program has been to the CWS by himself.
Yeah let's fire a coach with consistent top 10 recruiting classes that's nearly doubled the amount of times our program has been to the CWS by himself.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:31 pm to rockiee
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These arguments force people into these strange places to try to prove points.
Exactly. It's not like I am calling for Van Horn's head. He's a great coach. I'm just saying that he hasn't won anything. Just like Mike. It's something to consider when railing against Anderson. Anderson hasn't done anything that would warrant being fired. And the idea of getting rid of him is folly.
But for the record, I think Van Horn is great.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:33 pm to rockiee
Comparing coaches across sports is also very naive. I understand why posters like to do it, trying to provide a "gotcha moment".
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:36 pm to BoarEd
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Exactly. It's not like I am calling for Van Horn's head. He's a great coach. I'm just saying that he hasn't won anything. Just like Mike. It's something to consider when railing against Anderson. Anderson hasn't done anything that would warrant being fired. And the idea of getting rid of him is folly.
But for the record, I think Van Horn is great.
Why bring him up then? Maybe you weren't not the first to bring up his name.
It turns the discussion about Mike into something else. I understand you are trying to show some hypocrisy in posters by pointing to Van Horn but it doesn't really help Mike's case. It just morphs this into a Van Horn thread.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:36 pm to BoarEd
quote:Van Horn's success is equal to if Mike consistently made runs into the elite 8, in which case no one would want Mike gone. They aren't even remotely comparable. Van Horn loses assistants and players to the pros, reloads, and doesn't miss a beat. The success is clearly of his own creation. He both locks down in-state recruiting and goes as far as California to bring in other top recruits.
Exactly. It's not like I am calling for Van Horn's head. He's a great coach. I'm just saying that he hasn't won anything. Just like Mike.
Mike is at the complete and utter mercy of whatever happens to come out of JUCO that year to fill the hole in the lineup he had the year prior. So he fills that hole only to have another hole open up from a player graduating/getting drafted that he'll wait another year to fill with another JUCO because he couldn't recruit the top in-state talent to stay.
When have we ever been a preseason top 5 National Title contender and then played to those expectations all year under Mike? We've done that under DVH.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:38 pm to Drewbie
You clearly haven't been paying attention.
Isaiah Joe is the top in state talent. In fact, this recruiting class we see on the court this year destroys your entire post.
ETA: Despite Van Horn's team "living up to expectations" he didn't win any titles.
Maybe we have different expectations?
Isaiah Joe is the top in state talent. In fact, this recruiting class we see on the court this year destroys your entire post.
ETA: Despite Van Horn's team "living up to expectations" he didn't win any titles.
Maybe we have different expectations?
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:42 pm to BoarEd
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In fact, this recruiting class we see on the court this year destroys your entire post.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:42 pm to Drewbie
It's true.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:42 pm to BoarEd
quote:Clearly. You're ok with flaming out in the opening rounds every year for a decade and not making the tournament the other half of the time. Based on that you should think DVH is a god.
Maybe we have different expectations?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:44 pm to BoarEd
quote:Yeah the 38th ranked recruiting class in the nation full of nothing but 3 stars and 3 star JUCOs and transfers blows my post out of the water.
It's true
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:46 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Van horn has never had a listing season
What is a "listing" season? Is that a season that gets sideways on ya? Because I remember one year not too long ago when we got frickin swept by half the teams in the SEC.
Maybe they ended up better than .500 on the season, but they were frickin shite-tastic in league play.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:50 pm to Drewbie
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Yeah the 38th ranked recruiting class in the nation full of nothing but 3 stars
Is this like a passive aggressive swipe at our players?
Anyone with eyes to see with can see the talent level on this team is upper echelon. I don't give even one frick what rivals has to say about it.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:50 pm to BoarEd
You're thinking of 2016. It was one year removed from his FOURTH CWS appearance.
Funny, you said DVH wasn't consistent but those records seem pretty damn consistent to me.
Funny, you said DVH wasn't consistent but those records seem pretty damn consistent to me.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 1:52 pm
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