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re: If Adrio Bailey hadn't disappeared for the month of December
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:47 am to Stonehog
Posted on 12/29/18 at 10:47 am to Stonehog
Free throws also played a role. And the free throw shooting percentage will continue to climb as these players become more and more comfortable playing at this level.
Having a team that is 7 points away from being undefeated at this point is outstanding. it is literally amazing to me that people can't see that for what it is... a damn good basketball team.
Also, I predicted earlier in the season that we would end non conference play with a 9-3 or 10-2 record.
Right on track. I guess people think it sounds cooler or something to pretend the sky is falling.
Having a team that is 7 points away from being undefeated at this point is outstanding. it is literally amazing to me that people can't see that for what it is... a damn good basketball team.
Also, I predicted earlier in the season that we would end non conference play with a 9-3 or 10-2 record.
Right on track. I guess people think it sounds cooler or something to pretend the sky is falling.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:49 am to BoarEd
Someone needs to read Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willik. Mike is the coach of the team. He owns the successes and failures of the team. It’s on him. Bailey not scoring is on him. That’s the way leadership works. Geezus.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 11:59 am to hogfly
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Bailey not scoring is on him. That’s the way leadership works.
Oh boy. What a ridiculous argument.
I guess we found our answer, Mike is responsible for every shot a player makes or misses. That means Shaddy missing the pop foul is on Dave then huh? We lost because Dave got out coached on that play?
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:02 pm to Stonehog
Don't forget having the most least talented football team since 1992 is also on chad.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:02 pm to BoarEd
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Also, I predicted earlier in the season that we would end non conference play with a 9-3 or 10-2 record.
So, what are your SEC predictions?
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Having a team that is 7 points away from being undefeated at this point is outstanding
You guys have to be trolling with this shite.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:04 pm to Maytheporkbewithyou
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So, what are your SEC predictions?
We will be better than .500 in league play.
ETA: I try not to think about predicting individual games in basketball (unless I'm talking shite on the main board anyways). I've found its more accurate to look at a block of games (say the entire non conference schedule), consider how good the team is, and make predictions for a block of games.
Basketball is far too unpredictable to be successful picking each game. That's why anyone who can correctly guess the 64 team tournament at the end of the season wins like 1,000,000,000 dollars. It's good publicity for whoever puts up the money, because it's damn near impossible to predict the games.
Regular season games are the same way. You have to consider analytical trends and say, "team x is good enough to win it's next 8 out of 10. Don't know who the two teams are they'll lose to, but they'll lose two." Etc
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:20 pm to BoarEd
Well theres alot more blame at Mike's feet than Chad's because these are his players but back to mike. As you said stonehog it's a crapshoot. But the idea is if you make it 5 out of 6 times you get past the first round. So if he doesnt get past it this year or next he will have had many many trys to get past it and hasn't been able to do so. If he would have made even 1 set 16 up until this point he would be nowhere near the hot seat. And the reason people love dvh is because he has reached these goalposts that boared has called arbitrary. He has made it well past the first round of the ncaa baseball playoffs, he has made multiple trips to the baseball equivelant to the sweet 16 and elite 8 and has played for a national championship. Bringing race into this equation is being either ignorant or intentionally obtuse. If mike Anderson had done as much as dvh at the same point in their tenure we would be getting ready to build a statue of him out front of bud walton.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:23 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
None of those things you listed put trophies in the trophy case.
They are EXACTLY arbitrary goal posts.
You guys can chase those things until you're dog tired. I look for titles. I want consistency first and foremost. I expect upward movement. As long as those conditions are being met, the titles will come.
They are EXACTLY arbitrary goal posts.
You guys can chase those things until you're dog tired. I look for titles. I want consistency first and foremost. I expect upward movement. As long as those conditions are being met, the titles will come.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:33 pm to BoarEd
One more thing I would add is that yeah, Anderson's tenure started off slowly here. But in the second half of his tenure we are CLEARLY trending upwards. And fast. He has moved us into #3 in the SEC and has just signed the best recruiting class we have had since the Championship teams of the mid 90s. And has taken us to 3 of 4 and soon to be 4 of 5 tournaments.
His stock is actually rising. But there's a large portion of our fanbase that literally can't see what's right in front of their faces.
His stock is actually rising. But there's a large portion of our fanbase that literally can't see what's right in front of their faces.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 12:55 pm to BoarEd
Why would you be soures on van horn though? If titles is what you desire hes the one who's got us closest to that put of any coach on campus even before last year. He is also the coach who brings in more talent than anyone else year in and year out. It really brings your entire argument and stances on everything in general into question when you say stupid shite like i was starting to sour onthe most successful baseball coach in our teams entire history before he took us all the way to the championship and im still on the fence about him really because we missed a pop up. Like who the hell would you think would do better? He puts us in a position to win titles. That's more than mike has ever done honestly. Even with qualls and Portis that team did not feel like a serious threat. That's also why people liked petrino. He may not have beaten bama or LSU in 2011 but damn it if we didnt feel like we could! That's all I ask of mike. Give me a chance to feel like we can beat anyone. But as of right now if we played Kentucky or Duke or Kansas or Gonzaga or UNC I still go into those games expecting to lose
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:00 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
Why would it sour me on Van Horn? Couple reasons. One, I don't really care about baseball to begin with. Two, as I said, he is only marginally better than Anderson. Neither has won anything. The only reason Van Horn is any better is he has made a couple tournament runs. But at the end of the day, neither are winning any titles.
So I feel like if Anderson should get heat, so should Van Horn. Van Horn has been here longer too. So he's had more chances to win something and he has failed every time.
Also, didn't Van Horn recently have a losing season? That sucks. Anderson has never done that. And as I said before, I value consistency. It's the best judge of a good coach I can think of.
I'm anxious to see what happens with this baseball team this year. They, like the basketball hogs, are very young. Wonder which team has the better year.
One thing you can count on though. Even if Van Horn has a losing season a lot of these same people that hate Mike will be lining up to polish Van Horn's nob.
So I feel like if Anderson should get heat, so should Van Horn. Van Horn has been here longer too. So he's had more chances to win something and he has failed every time.
Also, didn't Van Horn recently have a losing season? That sucks. Anderson has never done that. And as I said before, I value consistency. It's the best judge of a good coach I can think of.
I'm anxious to see what happens with this baseball team this year. They, like the basketball hogs, are very young. Wonder which team has the better year.
One thing you can count on though. Even if Van Horn has a losing season a lot of these same people that hate Mike will be lining up to polish Van Horn's nob.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:03 pm to BoarEd
Van horn will win a national title by the time mike is let go. Recruiting rankings say so. He is the only coach recruiting at an elite level. In the end it will be Mike's downfall here. This is his best class coming in, but it is not a blue blood level class.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:04 pm to Stonehog
quote:You could make the same hypothetical for free throws. The fact is we lost.
He was averaging 11 ppg going into the Western Kentucky game. He scored ZERO against WKU and we lost by 1. He scored ZERO against Georgia Tech and we lost by 4. He gets half his average and we win both those games.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:05 pm to BoarEd
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I want consistency first and foremost.
And being consistently in the mix as one of those teams with a legit shot at a title is better than being consistently not.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:05 pm to BoarEd
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It's mind boggling to me and I seriously do wonder if racism plays a role. Of course nobody here is going to admit that they don't like Mike because he's black, but I just can't see any other way people can justify their hatred of the guy
Please don't go down this route. It is a very lazy argument and only does a disservice to Mike. I hope you are better than trying to make this argument.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:07 pm to LittleRockHog501
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And being consistently in the mix as one of those teams with a legit shot at a title is better than being consistently not.
Van Horn just recently had a losing season.
That isn't consistency.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:09 pm to rockiee
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Please don't go down this route. It is a very lazy argument and only does a disservice to Mike. I hope you are better than trying to make this argument.
I won't make the argument. But I can't say I haven't considered it a time or two.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:12 pm to BoarEd
Good because it gets us no where. In the same way I accuse you of being racist against white people because you support Mike and criticize Horn. It’s stupid. Are there racists in the South? Of course but I don’t think you are arguing with them in here.
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:14 pm to Stonehog
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Why not apply this line of thinking to baseball? Look at some of the teams that have won it all since Dave has been here. Fresno? Coastal Carolina? Van Horn has had twice as much time as Mike and has what to show for it? Biggest choke job in school history. Yet people trip over themselves to suck his balls while blaming Mike when a player misses a shot. It's a double standard.
Talking about changing the subject, moving the goal posts.. etc. Cmon man. Stick with CMA and Basketball. I asked this question about CMA and Basketball. Adrio Bailey doesn't play Baseball. Perhaps he would be better suited for it though?
At what point do you give in, up, out on CMA? He hasn't made the tournament every year. So, you done?
Posted on 12/29/18 at 1:19 pm to BoarEd
quote:By himself he has more CWS appearances than 7 teams in this conference have in their entire existence. Shut up.
Van Horn just recently had a losing season.
That isn't consistency.
This post was edited on 12/29/18 at 4:35 pm
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