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Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm gonna chose to look at it from the glass half full approach - we almost literally cannot shoot any worse than we have, and we've lost 4 games over that stretch by a combined 13 points.
I like this approach. We're relying on our Guard play to carry the offense, if JQ can start to get it going off the bench like last year then maybe everything will come together right on time.
It's amazing to think this team won basically @ Gonzaga and took down Houston but can lose to Missouri and struggle against UT and LSU who were missing key players.
Either this team's shooting is just in a funk or there is some serious regression and last year's shooting performance was an anomaly.
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:00 am to Teague
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But, what was the word on Gary?
In the post game press conference, Coach Oats said “facial contusion”. X-ray equipment at Coleman didn’t show what they needed so he was getting a MRI today. Haven’t heard anything additional yet.
He was bleeding when he hit the floor (and pounding the floor with his fists). Hope he didn’t break his nose.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:17 am to Alabama_Fan
Damn. Gary plays so hard but he is a walking bruise . Feel for the kid
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:17 am to Alabama_Fan
I hope he wears a cool looking mask
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:55 am to mistaken4193
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I hope he wears a cool looking mask
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:57 am to Chadaristic
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Alabama has played 5 games against teams ranked Top 13 in NET and they’re 4-1 in those games.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:58 am to Chadaristic
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1/22/22 | Missouri | 6:00 EST | SECN
1/25/22 | @ Georgia | 6:30 EST | SECN
1/29/22 | Baylor | 4:00 EST | ESPN/2
2/1/22 | @ Auburn | 9:00 EST | ESPN/2
2/5/22 | Kentucky | 8:00 EST | ESPN/2
2/9/22 | @ Ole Miss | 8:30 EST | SECN
2/12/22 | Arkansas | 12:00 EST | ESPN/2
2/16/22 | Mississippi State | 7:00 ESPN2/U
2/19/22 | @ Kentucky | 1:00 EST | CBS
2/22/22 | @ Vanderbilt | 9:00 EST | SECN
2/26/22 | South Carolina | 6:00 EST | SECN
3/2/22 |Texas A&M | 7:00 EST | SECN
3/5/22 | @ LSU | 12:00 EST | CBS
frick it. Convince me that the 3-ball doesn’t work it’s way towards average and we take 9 of these 13, go into the SECT at 21-10 (11-7, 12-6), and are looking at a possible 3-Seed
Split Home Games against Baylor and Kentucky, win the remaining home games, and take 3 of 4 road games @UGA, Ole Miss, @Vandy, and @LSU
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:58 am to mistaken4193
Keon took a shot to the face, too. Is there some way to get JD to play more physical or does he not like contact? He cant shoot from outside, and to me he doesn't have the quickness to play point guard.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:04 pm to Chadaristic
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Introducing a new scoring metric: Tracking double digit scoring runs in games (10-0 or better) over the course of the season.
Here's the landscape of the top 75 teams in terms of runs scored and runs conceded
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Here’s the graph of scoring runs for all high major teams:
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Here's a table of the most double digit scoring runs per game for all D1 teams:
Gonzaga is flat out dominant, averaging 1.4 runs per game of 10-0 or better. They have had 23 double digit scoring runs this season.
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Here's a table of the least double digit scoring runs conceded per game for all D1 teams:
Gonzaga and Loyola-Chicago have each allowed only one scoring run of 10-0 or better against them this season.
All from Evan Miya.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Per EvanMiya, our most balanced lineup
Offensive PPP > 1.10
Defensive PPP < 0.90
PG - Quinerly
SG - Shackelford
SF - Ellis
PF - Miles
C - Bediako
- 63 offensive possessions - 1.17 PPP (1.20 Adjusted Efficiency)
- 62 defensive possessions - 0.89 PPP (0.80 Adjusted Efficiency)
I'm surprised that particular lineup is any good, but Miles also seems to be a fixture in pretty much every functional lineup we have. I honestly don't understand why he isn't getting starter minutes or close to it at this point.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:49 pm to Chadaristic
Returning Players 2021 versus 2022 3-Point Shooting Comparisons (min 21 attempts both years)
Keon Ellis:
2021: 21-54 (38.9%)
2022: 34-100 (34%)
Jaden Shackleford:
2021: 63-184 (34.2%)
2022: 55-152 (36.2%)
Jahvon Quinerly:
2021: 52-120 (43.3%)
2022: 26-104 (25%) (Damn)
Noah Gurley:
Furman Career: 94-265 (35.5%)
2021: 11-40 (27.5%)
OVERALL (ALL 3 PT ATTEMPTS):
2021 Bama: 348-989 (35.2%)
2022 Bama: 164-530 (31%)
I expected pretty much everyone across the board to be significanly worse. But the stats say that if Quin was shooting like he did last year, that we'd basically be just as effective behind the arc. So why does it feel like we are so much less lethal from 3 than last year?
Keon Ellis:
2021: 21-54 (38.9%)
2022: 34-100 (34%)
Jaden Shackleford:
2021: 63-184 (34.2%)
2022: 55-152 (36.2%)
Jahvon Quinerly:
2021: 52-120 (43.3%)
2022: 26-104 (25%) (Damn)
Noah Gurley:
Furman Career: 94-265 (35.5%)
2021: 11-40 (27.5%)
OVERALL (ALL 3 PT ATTEMPTS):
2021 Bama: 348-989 (35.2%)
2022 Bama: 164-530 (31%)
I expected pretty much everyone across the board to be significanly worse. But the stats say that if Quin was shooting like he did last year, that we'd basically be just as effective behind the arc. So why does it feel like we are so much less lethal from 3 than last year?
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:50 pm to Robot Santa
To me that’s the lineup (JQ, Shack, Keon, Miles, Bediako) that makes the most sense.
4 out surrounding Bediako, who helps with rebounding and rim protection.
I would have those 5 with Gary, JD, and Rojas as the first options off the bench. Then Gurley, KAH, and Holt depending on need.
4 out surrounding Bediako, who helps with rebounding and rim protection.
I would have those 5 with Gary, JD, and Rojas as the first options off the bench. Then Gurley, KAH, and Holt depending on need.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:52 pm to Robot Santa
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Miles
He’s got something up with his hand - I’m sure everyone saw the wrap he had on it last night. Every time he went to the bench (and sometimes when he was on the court) he was holding that hand like it hurt. And on the bench he had some round mechanical device he would hold in that hand - when Oats abruptly put him in one time, he ran toward the scorers table with it and ran back to the bench to hand it to someone before checking in. Not sure if that’s impacting his playing time or not.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:02 pm to Crede15
Offensively yeah I'd expect that to be one of our best lineups. The fact that it's pretty good defensively is what surprised me.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:16 pm to Robot Santa
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I'm surprised that particular lineup is any good, but Miles also seems to be a fixture in pretty much every functional lineup we have. I honestly don't understand why he isn't getting starter minutes or close to it at this point.
He sat the bench all night against Tennessee.
Games since then:
13
19
29
19
25
So he’s averaging about 21 minutes a night in January. I’m not doing the math for all players in that same period, but Miles is probably 5th or 6th I would guess. I agree that he needs to be more in that 25+ range than the <20 range.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:29 pm to Glorious
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I expected pretty much everyone across the board to be significanly worse. But the stats say that if Quin was shooting like he did last year, that we'd basically be just as effective behind the arc. So why does it feel like we are so much less lethal from 3 than last year?
Recency bias? Feels like the 3 point shooting has been particularly bad in the last few games, particularly when we hit the SEC schedule.
Also your comparison is only of returning players. It doesn't really account for a guy like Petty who made more (and shot more but was still 37%) than anyone on the team last year. His production has not been replaced at all really. Primo to a lesser extent (43/113 at 38.1%). Guys like Davidson and Miles are playing those minutes I guess this year. Miles is starting to carry the load a bit more from 3 in some increased minutes, which is nice. But we have basically not replaced Petty's 2.4 3s a game. And Q has fallen off a cliff with 3 point shooting. Those two factors alone are huge drop offs.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:53 pm to Glorious
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So why does it feel like we are so much less lethal from 3 than last year?
Part of it is we always remember the makes, not the misses.
We'll remember Reese forever for that incredible 3 to send it to OT against UCLA.
We'll quickly forget that he was an atrocious shooter for basically his entire career.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:59 pm to elposter
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Also your comparison is only of returning players. It doesn't really account for a guy like Petty who made more (and shot more but was still 37%) than anyone on the team last year. His production has not been replaced at all really. Primo to a lesser extent (43/113 at 38.1%). Guys like Davidson and Miles are playing those minutes I guess this year. Miles is starting to carry the load a bit more from 3 in some increased minutes, which is nice. But we have basically not replaced Petty's 2.4 3s a game. And Q has fallen off a cliff with 3 point shooting. Those two factors alone are huge drop offs.
That's kinda what I thought too but the weird thing is the numbers suggest otherwise. If 19 of Quin's misses were makes (which would roughly bring him up to his 2021 %) then the team average would be 34.5%. Which is not a huge difference from 2021's 35.2%.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:04 pm to Glorious
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Returning Players 2021 versus 2022 3-Point Shooting Comparisons (min 21 attempts both years)
Keon Ellis:
2021: 21-54 (38.9%)
2022: 34-100 (34%)
Jaden Shackleford:
2021: 63-184 (34.2%)
2022: 55-152 (36.2%)
Jahvon Quinerly:
2021: 52-120 (43.3%)
2022: 26-104 (25%) (Damn)
Noah Gurley:
Furman Career: 94-265 (35.5%)
2021: 11-40 (27.5%)
OVERALL (ALL 3 PT ATTEMPTS):
2021 Bama: 348-989 (35.2%)
2022 Bama: 164-530 (31%)
I expected pretty much everyone across the board to be significanly worse. But the stats say that if Quin was shooting like he did last year, that we'd basically be just as effective behind the arc. So why does it feel like we are so much less lethal from 3 than last year?
Because we actually shot it well in the first half of this season and people didn't think our shooting was that much of a concern.
Through the 1st 9 games, as a team, we were 35% (89/254). Right on par with last season.
Through the 2nd 9 games, as a team, we are 27.5% (77/280).
Our most lethal stretch of the year by far, Miami > @ Gonzaga > Houston, we were 43.9% (36/82). When we soared into the Top 10 after those 3 games, we actually were lethal.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:47 pm to DLev45
Looks like Shaedon Sharpe won’t ever play for Kentucky. He is eligible for this years draft
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