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If Milroe was the starting QB, based on his speed, would you modify or change the offense
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:07 pm
I know a lot people around here have their weird Milroe/Simpson thing and I have no dog in the fight, who wins the job after Bryce is who wins the job.
With that being said watching the 3rd down run from Milroe today was electric. Feel free to correct me if I'm overreacting or it was just Vandy, but that speed and acceleration he showed was different. I mean it felt Lamar, Vick, RGIII, Kyler Murray different. I know his accuracy will need to improve along the lines of the guys mentioned for him to win the starting job and unlock his entire game.
My question is this, if he does win the starting job, do you revamp the offense to take advantage of his legs cause he is next level? I just saw that run and it reminded me of the 80 yard run by Derrick Henry against Arkansas his freshman year. It didn't mean anything at the time but it gave an early glimpse at how different an animal Derrick was/would become.
With that being said watching the 3rd down run from Milroe today was electric. Feel free to correct me if I'm overreacting or it was just Vandy, but that speed and acceleration he showed was different. I mean it felt Lamar, Vick, RGIII, Kyler Murray different. I know his accuracy will need to improve along the lines of the guys mentioned for him to win the starting job and unlock his entire game.
My question is this, if he does win the starting job, do you revamp the offense to take advantage of his legs cause he is next level? I just saw that run and it reminded me of the 80 yard run by Derrick Henry against Arkansas his freshman year. It didn't mean anything at the time but it gave an early glimpse at how different an animal Derrick was/would become.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 2:34 pm
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Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:12 pm to Carlton
I don't think you overhaul things. Just run more RPO and call a handful of designed QB runs per game.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:13 pm to Carlton
If he were to win the job I think you see us return to the Jalen Hurts offenses.
Run heavy, RPO type plays where we rely on his athleticism to move the chains.
In this pass heavy phase of college football it may prove to be an unstoppable offense.
Run heavy, RPO type plays where we rely on his athleticism to move the chains.
In this pass heavy phase of college football it may prove to be an unstoppable offense.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:14 pm to Carlton
My mother and I were just talking about the eventual battle between Milroe and Simpson.
Milroe looks like he is the real deal, but Simpson is a real talent himself. Gotta think it will be Milroe but you just never know. We might be dealing with 2 elite dudes battling out. Would suck to lose one of them if they don't get the job, but that's likely what will happen, and you can't blame them.
As far as the offense with Milroe, nothing has led me to believe that Milroe can't make all the throws. He's got a live arm. But we'd definitely want to utilize his running/athleticism obviously.
Milroe looks like he is the real deal, but Simpson is a real talent himself. Gotta think it will be Milroe but you just never know. We might be dealing with 2 elite dudes battling out. Would suck to lose one of them if they don't get the job, but that's likely what will happen, and you can't blame them.
As far as the offense with Milroe, nothing has led me to believe that Milroe can't make all the throws. He's got a live arm. But we'd definitely want to utilize his running/athleticism obviously.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:18 pm to Funky Tide 8
Milroe’s release just looks to slow to me. He looked as good as I’ve seen him at picking up reads tonite and he made great decisions. If he can work on his release just a little, he could be really good.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:19 pm to Carlton
He’s got a LONG way to go as a passer before he can win the starting QB job. If he wins it I imagine the QB run will be a significant part of the offense. I don’t see a total revamp though. We’ve done this before when Hurts was the starter.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:22 pm to Bamachief
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Milroe’s release just looks to slow to me.
It is. That’s a big reason he probably has as many batted balls as Bryce this year despite having a small fraction of the attempts and being a good bit taller.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:22 pm to Bham Bammer
I just don’t have faith in his ability to throw well enough. I hope I’m wrong.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:24 pm to Carlton
The danger of an offensive overhaul is that when the rest of your QB room doesn’t play that way, you’re screwed if you get an injury or the starter lays an egg.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:25 pm to TideSaint
Saint what you said makes a lot of sense.
That is what I mean by revamp, I think people are taking it as overhaul, which I interpret as changing most of the playbook.
I feel like we have gotten further away from the RPOs after Tua and Locksley and we really don't have that inside read element that we had with Jalen.
But also so feel you have to add more boots, draws and variations of called QB runs to maximize his explosiveness.
That is what I mean by revamp, I think people are taking it as overhaul, which I interpret as changing most of the playbook.
I feel like we have gotten further away from the RPOs after Tua and Locksley and we really don't have that inside read element that we had with Jalen.
But also so feel you have to add more boots, draws and variations of called QB runs to maximize his explosiveness.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:28 pm to Carlton
We're also going to have a new OC to work into the situation. Should be interesting.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:31 pm to Carlton
I feel like he can run the same offense that Young runs... but we'll see little more RPO wrinkles here and there.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:35 pm to Panthers4life
I think he could run it if his accuracy improves but my question is would that really be maximizing his threat as a runner.
Let me kind of reframe what initiated this. Milroe looks like he has that rare ability that he could be a homerun threat with his legs anytime he touches the ball. Not chain movers like Jalen or Tebow but I mean those rare guys like Vick, Lamar, Murray where you have to worry about house calls as a defense if you are schemed right and disciplined.
Let me kind of reframe what initiated this. Milroe looks like he has that rare ability that he could be a homerun threat with his legs anytime he touches the ball. Not chain movers like Jalen or Tebow but I mean those rare guys like Vick, Lamar, Murray where you have to worry about house calls as a defense if you are schemed right and disciplined.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:41 pm to Bamachief
Milroe's throws are comparable to JH. Strong arm but his accuracy is just not good enough (yet??).
Tight windows and hitting the WR so he does not have to reach back or break his stride are his issues. Can that improve? Yes. Will it improve? Hell if I know.
Tight windows and hitting the WR so he does not have to reach back or break his stride are his issues. Can that improve? Yes. Will it improve? Hell if I know.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:43 pm to Carlton
In my opinion, Milroe will not be the permanent starter. He is an elite athlete, and has a live arm, but I don’t really see him being accurate enough to be “the guy”. Ever time he throws, I almost held my breath. He has a whole year, but it would surprise me if he beats out Ty. I think Ty is the next one up in what’s proving to be a string of elite QBs.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:46 pm to Carlton
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Let me kind of reframe what initiated this. Milroe looks like he has that rare ability that he could be a homerun threat with his legs anytime he touches the ball. Not chain movers like Jalen or Tebow but I mean those rare guys like Vick, Lamar, Murray where you have
No doubt he is a talented runner, and fast. He seems out of control, even reckless, sometimes with his runs to me, though. He slams head on into tacklers, which could cause turnovers or get himself injured. Unless he tones that back, I don't think he would get through a season without getting really banged up. Maybe he's just trying a little too hard now to make the most of his limited playing time.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:51 pm to footstepsfalco
I know these things are connected but a few people are focused on whether you think he can win the job which is not the point of this.
Assume Milroe gets the job. Pretend Ty Simpson decides to quit football to travel the country with 3 other teens and a dog to solve crimes. We don't go into transfer portal.
Pretend that Milroe improves his passing and made a blood oath with Saban to be the starter or moon pies vanish from the planet.
I think Milroe has the potential to be game changing with his legs from the QB position. I don't have a problem with someone disagreeing with me on that, but if you do see that potential what would you do with the O to maximize that? I don't believe what we do or ask of Bryce, or what we did with Mac or Tua would play to that.
Assume Milroe gets the job. Pretend Ty Simpson decides to quit football to travel the country with 3 other teens and a dog to solve crimes. We don't go into transfer portal.
Pretend that Milroe improves his passing and made a blood oath with Saban to be the starter or moon pies vanish from the planet.
I think Milroe has the potential to be game changing with his legs from the QB position. I don't have a problem with someone disagreeing with me on that, but if you do see that potential what would you do with the O to maximize that? I don't believe what we do or ask of Bryce, or what we did with Mac or Tua would play to that.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 10:57 pm to Carlton
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do you revamp the offense to take advantage of his legs
Yeah, good luck recruiting any top receivers if you do that.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 11:02 pm to BamaGradinTn
Huh, we had our best WR class ever when Jalen was our starting QB?
And again if you have an offense that forces defenses to account for an elite running QB that leads to more one on one match-ups for WR.
Lincoln Riley's Oklahoma offenses were actually pretty run heavy and they had no problems recruiting elite receivers.
And honestly elite WR recruits go to downright mediocre offensive programs all the time. LSU has been wasting elite wide receivers for a generation.
And again if you have an offense that forces defenses to account for an elite running QB that leads to more one on one match-ups for WR.
Lincoln Riley's Oklahoma offenses were actually pretty run heavy and they had no problems recruiting elite receivers.
And honestly elite WR recruits go to downright mediocre offensive programs all the time. LSU has been wasting elite wide receivers for a generation.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 11:30 pm to Carlton
Dont know if I can take another running qb who can't complete a forward pass. I know Jalen eventually developed into an awesome passer, but when he played for us it was brutal. He won a lot of games for us, but he was also a liability in big games when the other team could sell out to stop the run. I'd rather go with the passer that can move than the runner who sometimes throws it
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