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re: If Milroe was the starting QB, based on his speed, would you modify or change the offense

Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:53 am to
Posted by mrbroker
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:53 am to
4 just does not look comfy in the pocket yet for me and will need to improve significantly to get Bama where they want to be next year.
Posted by C W
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 9:54 am to
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, I haven't seen enough of him to be able to venture an opinion.


Since he’s a true freshman i think we have to go some on practice reports. I have been on an invitation only forum that at least one poster has been to practices. Apparently Simpson’s all around talent looks promising. As another poster in this tread indicated , he’s pretty mobile too but reads the field well for a true freshman and can make all the passes
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:03 am to
I saw we just let Milroe play and progress. Just relax and let things happen. Right now we don't have to worry about it.

I think Saban has him 2nd string because his abilities give us a better chance of winning if something were to happen.
Posted by C W
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:08 am to
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think Saban has him 2nd string because his abilities give us a better chance of winning if something were to happen.


Which is what I said earlier in this thread. I think it’s prudent to note that apparently Saban has no plan to redshirt Simpson but is getting him some live game time. Hopefully that will include some more of the playbook by the end of the year but even just taking snaps in a live game will help, same as it did Mac Jones in 2019.
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:29 am to
Both can be successful QBs . I will say I like the way Simpson spins it. Milroe is as athletic as you will find. Wished they were farther apart in eligibility but it is a good problem to have right now . I would assume the coaching staff knows it is likely the loser in the spring could leave since we are taking two QBs this cycle
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:32 am to
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Milroe is similar to what Lamar Jackson was when he first started at Louisville.

And Lamar would’ve won a championship at Bama.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:36 am to
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Lol i can't tell if you're joking or not. Every deep ball in that clip is severely underthrown, and it's from high school..


Did you watch the clip? He threw a ball from the 20 to the 20, on a rope, while moving to avoid the rush. He has a rocket.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:40 am to
Going all-in with Milroe as a running QB only works when you have a backup that can reasonably do the same things. I don’t think we have that in Simpson or either of the ‘23 guys. So if he wins the job I could see some designed runs for sure but I don’t see us going full read option RPO stuff.
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:40 am to
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I think the best analogy to Milroe in recent years is Blake Sims. From an offensive standpoint, if we could find a savant like Kiffin, or even someone in that neighborhood, who could scheme a running back split wide against a middle linebacker (see the 2014 Florida game as an example), I think we'd be a very dangerous offensive team.


Reading your post and Ystar's comment about Dan Mullins (and I think someone mentioned the OC hire earlier), that really is what it comes down to now that I think about it. You wouldn't need to change much if you have some one who can scheme it up within the playbook and we have complimentary personnel which at least at RB we already have, and I think we potentially have at WR with Bond, Anderson , Prentice etc. I can't believe I am saying this but if Milroe were to ever start, getting another TE who can be an elite vertical threat would be a priority for me.

In regards to modifications regarding Simpson, the only reason I brought this up on Milroe is because I think his run threat/ability has to potential to be defensive game plan altering with his legs that would be a unique problem for defensive coordinators especially cause I think he is a home run hitter, not just a move the sticks guy.

For Simpson I don't see any need to modify anything cause he doesn't have a distinctly unique talent like that. He looks to be a plus guy across the board with desirable QB traits based on HS reports and what I have seen from hudl and his most unique trait to me is throwing on the run accurately so moving the pocket, sprint outs, boots - the kind of stuff they do with Josh Allen is the only wrinkles I would add for him.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 10:50 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:46 am to
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Huh, we had our best WR class ever when Jalen was our starting QB?




You just made my point for me. Who else was in that class? Those guys knew who was gonna be running that offense soon enough, and it wasn't Jalen Hurts. It was the other guy in that class you mentioned. No way they come if the QB in their class is a run first QB.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:52 am to
No I didn't. They had no idea how long Jalen was going to be the QB, nothing was promised to them about Tua ever winning the job. Jalen was a freshman so the expectation should have been for them that he would be their QB for 2-3 years.

I also made 3 other points about WR recruiting, and again this has nothing to do with how you scheme the offense if Milroe was QB based on his unique speed and acceleration.
This post was edited on 9/25/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:53 am to
Milroe is no QB.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:56 am to
Fair enough, Eli Goldfinger wants to run wing T with Milroe. Little archaic but I feel you.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 10:59 am to
Everyone will be disappointed if he’s ever full time QB.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:03 am to
I disagree everyone will be disappointed by I think Ty Simpson and Drew Sanders at least will not be happy about the decision and to me they are basically everyone.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:19 am to
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No I didn't. They had no idea how long Jalen was going to be the QB, nothing was promised to them about Tua ever winning the job. Jalen was a freshman so the expectation should have been for them that he would be their QB for 2-3 years.



Maybe they saw the same Jalen everyone...except apparently you...also saw.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11659 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:21 am to
Jalen Hurts showed up at Bama with an I5 processor while Milroe has and I3.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
1771 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:22 am to
I don’t expect Milroe to start next year. Arm’s not good enough.

To answer the title Q, no. We’d see more running wrinkles (BoB hates it for some reason) but I prefer the Tua, Mac style offense where we utilize the passing game where applicable. I’d rather not become run dependent in a shoot out era of football
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
15174 posts
Posted on 9/25/22 at 11:33 am to
Yeah kid has a canon, but what he needs to show is accuracy and control of that Canon.

That and a deep understanding of reading defense before snap and processing adoptions after the snap.
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 9/25/22 at 12:44 pm to
If you believe they saw a freshman named SEC newcomer and offensive player of the year and went he is going to get beat out then more power to you. It makes no sense to me but live and let live. And revamping an offense to take advantage of his speed does not make it an offense that doesn't have an explosive passing game or appeal to WR. And even by your logic we would just recruit a QB that those elite receivers like in their class at it wouldn't be an issue. And it still doesn't negate the 3 other points I made bout WR recruiting and is still off subject.

But anyway let us assume that for some reason now we are never able to recruit top WR again because of Milroe hypothetically being the QB and Jalen Hurts, how would you if, you would at all, revamp the offense to take advantage of his possibly game changing running ability or would you leave as is?
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