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re: Jermaine Burton enters transfer portal

Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:10 am to
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:10 am to
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Maybe it is true, but what is odd is it seems way too many people are being cünty about it and blaming Bennett for a dude quitting our team a week after winning the Natty. We are a strange bunch.


Not sure if you think that's what I'm doing or you're referencing others. If this is directed at me, kindly reread any of my posts.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14022 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:14 am to
It is some sort of strange validation grab our cünt fans are grasping at to somehow confirm what they knew all along. We are broken.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:41 am to
Sounds to me like this is more a Burton issue than a Bennett issue. When Pickens went down there was a prime opportunity for somebody to step up. That somebody(ies) were Ladd and Bowers and Mitchell.

Also, did he think we were going to game plan for 70% passes at UGA? Especially with a back up QB starting and having to rely on true freshmen to build out our receiving core?

Bigger picture though……isn’t this just a recurring trend here of players that would rather transfer than actually compete for playing time? It seems like the ones getting on the field are busting their arse and earning it vs the ones that just expect to play.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14022 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:44 am to
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Not sure if you think that's what I'm doing or you're referencing others. If this is directed at me, kindly reread any of my posts.


No sir, you are not being anything other than logical and factual. My comment was directed at the stuff I have been seeing out on the internets. Apologies for not being clearer.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89749 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:46 am to
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isn’t this just a recurring trend here of players that would rather transfer than actually compete for playing time? I


that happens a lot but definitely not the case for burton. He played quite a bit as a TFr and played all the time (when healthy) this past year. Unquestioned starter and #1 WR going into next year. Playign time had nothing to do with this.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14022 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:55 am to
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Sounds to me like this is more a Burton issue than a Bennett issue. When Pickens went down there was a prime opportunity for somebody to step up. That somebody(ies) were Ladd and Bowers and Mitchell. Also, did he think we were going to game plan for 70% passes at UGA? Especially with a back up QB starting and having to rely on true freshmen to build out our receiving core? Bigger picture though……isn’t this just a recurring trend here of players that would rather transfer than actually compete for playing time? It seems like the ones getting on the field are busting their arse and earning it vs the ones that just expect to play.


There are lots of reasons people leave. Most times, there are more than one reason. Burton may not like our offensive staff or players or that 19 got a lot of targets. Maybe Bennett staying was his final straw. Maybe he was already mentally checked out. Yet, what this proves is you can’t make everyone happy. Even when winning a Natty. This is nothing more than the natural ebb and flow of the current football landscape.

The issue I see in this is, as I have stated, the amount of people I have seen on the interwebs using this as some sort of clear indication that they were right about Bennett and that we “can’t bring in above 3* receivers because of him. Like AD Mitchell, or Chandler Smith, or Morissette
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73735 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:57 am to
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Playign time had nothing to do with this.


Sort of.

Layer One:
More TE's on the field means less receivers. Targets to WR's limited right off the bat.

Layer Two:
Throwing the ball only 50% of the snaps (which I think is reasonable and balanced) also limits targets to WR's.

Layer Three:
Brock Bowers is likely to be the #1 target again, not good for a WR getting maximum targets.

Superimpose all those layers on top of each other, and the picture is revealed, to me at least.

He wants to play somewhere he can be the feature guy, get more targets, and hopefully convert those targets into yards and TD's and more highlights, so he can have a better shot at the NFL.

So, my point is that you are right, it's not about playing time per se`, but it is about opportunities when you are on the field.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14022 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 11:59 am to
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that happens a lot but definitely not the case for burton. He played quite a bit as a TFr and played all the time (when healthy) this past year. Unquestioned starter and #1 WR going into next year. Playign time had nothing to do with this.


We rotate receivers a lot, ask them to block a lot, and have 2 and 3 Te formations , all that takes snaps away.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:08 pm to
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He wants to play somewhere he can be the feature guy, get more targets, and hopefully convert those targets into yards and TD's and more highlights, so he can have a better shot at the NFL.


Burton needs a BIG XII or PAC team that slings it all over the yard.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:13 pm to
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No sir, you are not being anything other than logical and factual. My comment was directed at the stuff I have been seeing out on the internets. Apologies for not being clearer.


All good Was just timing and placement of a couple of the responses.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 12:45 pm to
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here were also games where I felt he disappeared, particularly on 3rd down plays.

I used to watch the WRs a ot because I knew what they are doing....but I didn't enjoy the games as much. I find my self watching the QB's and pass rush now then following the ball, so I don't see open receivers unless on replays.

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Stet did a lot of great things for us, and ultimately got us to the promised land. What he didn't do was complete a lot of throws to outside receivers. Who is to say whether that's him or Monken making the calls... I dunno.
Just guessing? All of the above and would include the defense talking it away from us so we couldn't beat them deep as much.

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It's for good reason... Look at what this board does to almost anyone who says anything remotely approaching negative about the kid... Whether it's well reasoned or not. Look at the social space right now and the people tripping over their micropeens to say ultra negative shite about a guy that they would happily chat up and say how proud of him they are if they met him in person. There's no good that comes of being specific there..
I understand why he does it....I fully get it. I am just saying there are times where people will misread a vague post and interpret it differently. The problem he is trying to avoid can then be focused on an incorrect player.

When reading the other board (pretty much every day) I have seen time after time after time where he will lay out a post clearly and concisely. Then somebody will repeat it all jumbled up and incorrectly. That's not on him. But when they do that with clear, concise posts you can imagine how his more cryptic hints go.

Again. What I said was not meant to criticize or question his methods at all. I shouldn't have even said it, because 99.9% of the time I think he handles things very, very well.

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Let's play devil's advocate though... what other player on the roster could be said to have "helped us win a natty" that would be torn down that *ALSO* would have a direct impact on Burton's outlook on the 2022 season. This isn't like some "that could be anyone" comment... Especially when you factor in that there's literally only one dawg player being torn down across the interwebs at the moment. It's only cryptic if you don't want to hear it.
Fair point. I will put it from a personal experience. I played WR and was not a primary receiver, but loved our QB. I still see him from time to time. However, there are other players on the team that hated to be around with every fiber of my being, and couldn't wit to get away from.

Again. Yes. He was probably talking about Stetson. I guess before I assume something I have learned to be certain about what/who I was talking about. I have been embarrassed in the past by getting something wrong.

I am just doing more of a backlash to the ones calling Bennett garbage and Kirby Smart a moron for playing him. And that's NOT you.

There are 3-4 posters on the board that I have a lot of respect for. They always stay even handed with critiques and opinions. I listen carefully when they post and consider anything that is said, even if I don't necessarily agree with it initially.

You are one of those.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34651 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 1:17 pm to
I dont claim to know why he’s transferring, but I do know this…

The WR position in football attracts the single most selfish narcissistic pre-Madonnas in all of sports. Hell, the corporate football league just had one of them quit a playoff team mid game.

Again, i dont claim to know why Burton is transferring,, but I know 100% that there are many players entering the portal because they want the attention of being re-recruited again and seeing their name in headlines and getting some attention

Guess im just not shocked like so many other people seem to be that in the new age of unregulated free agency that retarded shite is happening. These are the consequences you weren’t worried about before, but here we are
Posted by Chainsaw Massaquoi
Chattanooga
Member since Jun 2010
716 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:32 pm to
His position coach also left. With the new world with everyone going to the portal I bet a lot of guys transfer due to position coaches leaving. Not saying it was his main reason but it could have been the last straw.
Posted by miledawg
athens ga
Member since Sep 2005
2123 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:41 pm to
Well regardless of what the underlying causation is, one thing is certain- this move by Burton has stirred up a hornet's nest here.

It has also revealed that there are still fault lines and tensions despite the afterglow of that natty.

Probably would have been better for everyone if Stet had decided to ride off into the sunset. He could have stood forever atop the pantheon of UGa QB lore. Now he risks being made into a bum again.

Well the O will be at least more of the same next year regardless. The D will be in transition but obviously with big upside.

We just have to hope that we don't ask too much of Stetson while the D develops and that we don't manage to run off our QB future. This story (the word 'narrative' is way overused) that Kirby can't manage QBs may have receded, but not far.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28311 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:30 pm to
Wtf is this guy thinking? We rotate a lot but not THAT much when everyone is healthy. 1, the dude doesn’t fricking block. When is the last time he was in on a run play as opposed to white lightning putting his guy on skates for bowers in the orange bowl. 2) how many years has he been at UGA now? He’s what he was when he came in a boundary receiver who is excellent at double moves and going deep. We have 6 guys who can do that just as good. I think burton is a fine player and got wayyyy more looks and TDS this year than someone like AD who probably deserved them more as freshmen he’s a more complete player. But man, work on your block, build your route tree, he could’ve easily been our best double move and intermediate guy next year and had the year I imagine he thinks will get him to the nfl as if stats do playing opposite bowers and Ad
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:35 pm to
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Well the O will be at least more of the same next year regardless. The D will be in transition but obviously with big upside.

I expect it to be very different, honestly.
We have been wanting to move to a more wide open ffense for two years now....and have, but only on a limited basis. Why?

Limited experience at QB last year, and then all of our WRs were injured this year. People don't realize there are a lot of reasons playbooks become limited. We had:

1 Freshman TE Bowers
1 Freshman WRs Mitchell
1 WR with little to no playing experience McConkey

all three were forced into pretty large roles this past season. That makes a difference.

Think about this. None of our WRs were the focus of the offense therefore none got big numbers. But if any one of them went down with injury, it did not kill us.
Remember what happened to Alabama when their top two WRs went down? Dropped balls. Receivers on different pages with their QB.

With a bit more experience at WR (Mitchell, McConkey. Jack-Saint, Blaylock) we should have a bit more of the playbook to work from. Not only that, but even if our WRs are not up to speed we have some good RBs to lean on and we could lean more heavily on them. We are loaded across the board and when you are loaded you have options.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:40 pm to
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Probably would have been better for everyone if Stet had decided to ride off into the sunset.


Yes, but riding off to play arena football in Birmingham or being a high school coach or starting a grind like law school were not fun alternatives. Plus, NIL cash.

Thanks to COVID we may have the oldest QB in college football next season. Maybe there's some really obscure loophole that will let him come back yet again...I think he would stay two or three more years if he could.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:28 am to
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Yes, but riding off to play arena football in Birmingham or being a high school coach or starting a grind like law school were not fun alternatives. Plus, NIL cash.


Exactly this. I think Stetson said something along the lines of...."Average lifespan in the US is 80+, so he figures he has 60 years to work after football."

Logical thinking you typically don't get from someone young. Have fun while you have the opportunity.

That said....I hope we have a spirited competition from our QBs this Spring and the QB that gives us the best chance to win gets his shot...no matter who it is. BVG, Stockton or Bennett.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14022 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:33 am to
With the NIL in play, it makes no sense for him to do anything other than be a Dawg. the next year. He stands to make a lot of $$ off it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:18 am to
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With the NIL in play, it makes no sense for him to do anything other than be a Dawg. the next year. He stands to make a lot of $$ off it.


I saw an LSU fan say that after the title game he could make as much as $300,000+. I don't know where he got his figures from or if he just pulled them out of thin air, but if so, it's more money than he would make going to law school or even practicing law for one year, I would think.
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