re: Jermaine Burton enters transfer portal

Maybe he is leaving because he wants to go to a school that runs a different offense and he gets more targets. What I find intriguing is the cünty way some deliver that message. Like we fricked up this year. Get the frick out of here.

I’m not shitting on Stet. You can check my history to see if I’ve done that. But you absolutely did say that Burton transferring has nothing to do with Stet, which is the QB position. And he’s transferring because he doesn’t believe he’ll get the targets to get to the league. History says he’s right. It “appears” that Stet had his favorite receivers and they got the majority of the targets. And I really don’t give 2 shits who played what level of football. I understand the game a lot better now than I did when I played. I don’t need for you to “explain “ to me how the game works. All of that is irrelevant to the conversation. You keep mentioning the guy on the other site and what he’s alluded to. Go read what he posted tonight and then decide why Burton left….on the same day Stet said he’s coming back.

Don't sleep on Jackson Meeks

These stats were shared over in another thread on the other board, but for context:

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Receptions this year:
Jameson Williams - 79
John Metchie - 96
Chris Olave - 65
Garrett Wilson - 70
Jaxon Smith-Njigba - 95
Jermaine Burton - 26

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Jermaine played in 14 of 15 games, starting in eight...finished with 26 catches (32 targets) for 497 yards and five TDs. Yes he missed time during camp due to injury, but playing in 14/15 games there's no real reason why he should be not just behind this group of receivers but not even in the same ballpark with regards to total receptions.

Again, I don't fault Kirby for making the choices he did... the results are exactly what we all wanted! That doesn't mean that they don't have impacts that aren't entirely positive either. Frankly, the reality likely is that every year we're going to see at least one or two somewhat "surprising" or at least disappointing exits... I think Bama has 14 or 15 in the portal already.

The shock and surprise crowd is just baffling though... If you're JB, pretty simple question. Can I get roughly 2-3x the number of targets on average that I got in 2021... because he's catching better than 80% of balls thrown his way. If he doubles his targets and keeps up that production, it's a ~1k receiving season. But you'd have to have confidence that you're going to get fed, and whether that's offensive scheme, QB, greener pastures, something else entirely, or some combination of those things, it's not unreasonable or irrational for him to look elsewhere either.

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But you absolutely did say that Burton transferring has nothing to do with Stet, which is the QB position.

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It has t do with what the QB is asked to do. Stetson Bennett does nto call the plays, they come from the sideline. Stetson Bennett did everything the coaches asked him to do.

Jermaine Burton has been rumored to be leaving weeks ago....long before Stetson Bennett announced he was coming back. So, no. Burton's decision did not have anything to do with Bennett's returning. To try to frame it that way is wrong.

Again. Here is what I said:Has nothing to do with Stetson. It has been rumored for awhile that Burton was thinking of leaving.
Here was your takeaway: You really believe that Burton leaving has nothing to do with the QB position and his number of targets?

Notice I said it had nothing to do with Stetson Bennett
and you came back with "QB position"? There is a big difference.

I also explained that play calling has more to do with it. I don't know how much more clearer I can make it.

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It “appears” that Stet had his favorite receivers and they got the majority of the targets.

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I can see where you might get that impression....but let me put another spin on it. I am not saying I am right and you are wrong...just trying to get you to look at it differently.

Burton was 5th on the team in receptions, but 2nd on the team in receiving yards. With Smith and Pickens out, Burton became the de facto deep threat. His 19.1 yards per catch seems to support this. Note that in the very limited time Pickens got he averaged 21.4 yards a catch.(Only 5 catches) Possession receivers typically get more receptions than deep threats....and deep threats typically get more yards than possession receivers.

Add to that that Burton was at least hobbled in a couple of games and missed one. I might also add that James Cook was 4th in receptions and Brock Bowers was first....that is a play calling thing. Had Burton not been hobbled and had not missed any games and caught just 3 more passes he would have been third in receptions.

People call a receiver a favorite receiver, and I get that. but most QBs don't care who gets the ball. They are going to throw the ball to the receiver that is open. It's more a matter of which receivers are best at creating separation, so the QB goes to them and announcers declare them as a favorite. (To the degree that the receiver gets thrown to more I guess it is a legitimate way to put it.) I would also say that if a receiver gets open more the QB MIGHT be more inclined to look for that receiver quicker when pressure is closing in.

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I don’t need for you to “explain “ to me how the game works. All of that is irrelevant to the conversation.

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I apologize for sounding condescending. but no, it isn't irrelevant to the conversation. how plays are called....which plays are called and how a QB makes a split decision on how and where to deliver the football is exactly what this particular conversation is about.

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You keep mentioning the guy on the other site and what he’s alluded to. Go read what he posted tonight and then decide why Burton left….on the same day Stet said he’s coming back.

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I'll do it.

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I know all this is fluid but can you give us some kind of idea what changed in the last week cause you hinted he was staying for now.

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SoFl responding to the above question

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It’s obvious. Nothing for me to say without tearing down a player that helped us win one. We won a natty.

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Read it how you will bud. I've seen enough commentary from enough sources to at least feel pretty good with the read. As I said, I don't think it's ever all one thing. But to say that Bennett isn't at least one of the factors is seemingly ignoring the obvious.

Frankly, to College Football Nerds' point on twitter, Burton owns at least some of the responsibility for his own production though as well. While there were plenty of times I saw him streaking open and ignored, there were also games where I felt he disappeared, particularly on 3rd down plays. Could be play calls or defense taking him away, but by late in the year when pretty much everyone knew that Bowers was our #1 target, I still didn't see him popping off the screen and demanding targets in games.

Stet did a lot of great things for us, and ultimately got us to the promised land. What he didn't do was complete a lot of throws to outside receivers. Who is to say whether that's him or Monken making the calls... I dunno. I can't easily get at the numbers either, but I can say that in 2021, roughly 70% of our receptions were thrown to the TE/RB/Slot receiver position.



End of the day, if you told me I had to pick one returning I'd probably still keep Bennett. Not because I think he's the better player, but simply put, I believe that we can replace what Burton was able to produce for us in Athens... As of yet, I'm not confident enough in our QB development to say we have a guy who can take over the spot in 2022 and put us in a position to win more consistently than Stet. He's going to have to grow and develop this offseason, and hold off the young guns, but at the very least we do know that there is a formula or path to victory... With that said, he's not going to have the experienced all world defense to lean on, so going to need to see some dudes step up on that side of the ball this year too if we want to continue forward with the same formula.


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Too cryptic for me. That's my main nit about SoFl. (Not meaining to criticize because he does a great job and provides good information) Sometimes being cryptic an lead to misunderstandings. Is he talking about Bennett? maybe. You can even argue probably.

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It's for good reason... Look at what this board does to almost anyone who says anything remotely approaching negative about the kid... Whether it's well reasoned or not. Look at the social space right now and the people tripping over their micropeens to say ultra negative shite about a guy that they would happily chat up and say how proud of him they are if they met him in person. There's no good that comes of being specific there...

Let's play devil's advocate though... what other player on the roster could be said to have "helped us win a natty" that would be torn down that *ALSO* would have a direct impact on Burton's outlook on the 2022 season. This isn't like some "that could be anyone" comment... Especially when you factor in that there's literally only one dawg player being torn down across the interwebs at the moment. It's only cryptic if you don't want to hear it.

Maybe it is true, but what is odd is it seems way too many people are being cünty about it and blaming Bennett for a dude quitting our team a week after winning the Natty. We are a strange bunch.

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Maybe it is true, but what is odd is it seems way too many people are being cünty about it and blaming Bennett for a dude quitting our team a week after winning the Natty. We are a strange bunch.

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I don't see how it couldn't be true. I also don't see how anyone could blame anybody OTHER than burton. I mean it's his decision regardless of what it's based on