td01241
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Yup which is a shame. Total waste of supreme talent. Dude is fast as hell and has a great frame to play safety.
He just doesn’t look like he cares or wants to be out there
He just doesn’t look like he cares or wants to be out there
Oh okay thanks for the info.
It can be hard to identify at times exactly what position certain guys are playing at on defense for us because of the defense we run and amount of rotating we do :lol:
It can be hard to identify at times exactly what position certain guys are playing at on defense for us because of the defense we run and amount of rotating we do :lol:
Has Dinkins played much at FS at all this year? It’s my understanding most of his snaps have come at Star when spelling Barnes but I could be wrong.
Barnes played a lot of FS at Clemson so could role him into that spot and start Dink at star. Barnes has been crushing it at star so far though so idk if that’s a good idea
Barnes played a lot of FS at Clemson so could role him into that spot and start Dink at star. Barnes has been crushing it at star so far though so idk if that’s a good idea
Injury report: Nate Frazier starting at RB, Bolden doubtful
Posted by td01241 on 10/17/26 at 1:58 pm
Nate is back boys! He will be starting at RB today and is expected to be on a moderate snap/carry count
KJ has been downgraded from questionable to doubtful. He will not be in today’s game.
I wonder who we plug into that spot for the most snaps. My guess is either Kyron Jones or Zion Branch
KJ has been downgraded from questionable to doubtful. He will not be in today’s game.
I wonder who we plug into that spot for the most snaps. My guess is either Kyron Jones or Zion Branch
re: Which primadonna 5 star QB went 6 of 19 for 43 and 2 ints this weekend?
Posted by td01241 on 10/17/26 at 1:51 pm to lewis and herschel
Sometimes, but not always. It depends on the situation. JJ Mcarthy just got shipped away from the Vikings. Cam Ward might not make it to the end of the year he’s been so bad before he is benched or traded.
I’m not saying they’re just going to hand Stet the job over Simpson. They will hold an open competition for both guys to compete for it. What I am saying is I think Stet will enter that competition as the guy with the presumed edge and Ty will have to demonstrably take it from him.
It makes no sense for them to have kept him around in the system this long and kept him listed as QB2 if they don’t intend to give him the chance to start for them after Stafford. IMHO McVay didn’t want to draft Ty Simpson and the GM overrode him. They could have traded Stetson for a 4-5th round pick if they wanted to.
The only big thing that is going in Ty’s favor is he has been in the league less time meaning they could let him start for a lot longer before having to pay him big or pick up his 5th year option.
I’m not saying they’re just going to hand Stet the job over Simpson. They will hold an open competition for both guys to compete for it. What I am saying is I think Stet will enter that competition as the guy with the presumed edge and Ty will have to demonstrably take it from him.
It makes no sense for them to have kept him around in the system this long and kept him listed as QB2 if they don’t intend to give him the chance to start for them after Stafford. IMHO McVay didn’t want to draft Ty Simpson and the GM overrode him. They could have traded Stetson for a 4-5th round pick if they wanted to.
The only big thing that is going in Ty’s favor is he has been in the league less time meaning they could let him start for a lot longer before having to pay him big or pick up his 5th year option.
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And Stetson's career should continue next year and hopefully beyond
Stafford can’t play forever. I wouldn’t be shocked if he retired after this season. Stets time is coming imo and he will get his shot to be the Rams starter when Matt finally shuffles away.
I think the rams like him a lot and think he can play well in their offense under the guidance of McVay. People underestimate his arm strength to an insane degree, and while it’s probably not quite to the degree Staffords is, it is very close and Stafford has been one of the biggest arms in the NFL since he entered it. Stet also brings the mobility option, and they have invested quite a lot into him as a backup Qb that you wouldn’t think they would do unless they really liked him.
He will be given the reigns post Stafford imho and I hope he takes the opportunity and makes the most of it
When I went to UGA as a student, yes.
Me and my wife have only been going to one home game a year for a long time now though and we usually try to choose what we think will be big games. Last year was Ole Miss and this year was OU (which turned out to be not such an important game but a very fun one to be at) for example.
Auburn just havent been good enough to warrant choosing them when we play them at home, and I have no real desire to go to Jordan Hare tbh.
Me and my wife have only been going to one home game a year for a long time now though and we usually try to choose what we think will be big games. Last year was Ole Miss and this year was OU (which turned out to be not such an important game but a very fun one to be at) for example.
Auburn just havent been good enough to warrant choosing them when we play them at home, and I have no real desire to go to Jordan Hare tbh.
re: Breaking: 24 team playoff is done. Starts in 27
Posted by td01241 on 10/16/26 at 11:33 pm to imjustafatkid
Idk why a tech fan even cares
They will never make a 24 team playoff
Oh and 10 in a row, bitch
They will never make a 24 team playoff
Oh and 10 in a row, bitch
re: Throw the Records Out When Washington Plays at Purdue on Friday Night!!!
Posted by td01241 on 10/16/26 at 11:31 pm to Rosco P Coltrane
Hasnt it been over 2 seasons since purdue won a p4 game? Man that conference is incredibly deep especially when you throw in maryland and Rutgers.
3 of the worst teams in all of football holding it down for the b10 :usa:
This is who Sankey let himself get made a bitch by?
3 of the worst teams in all of football holding it down for the b10 :usa:
This is who Sankey let himself get made a bitch by?
re: Michael Penix Jr
Posted by td01241 on 10/16/26 at 4:08 pm to Tigertown in ATL
He has shown flashes of being very talented but dude has 4 ACL tears.
Need to just eat the truth it was a horrible pick and try and draft a new franchise QB
Need to just eat the truth it was a horrible pick and try and draft a new franchise QB
I agree he is a douchebag but we are stuck with him.
Might as well see if he can get play at all before we DFA him
Might as well see if he can get play at all before we DFA him
re: Which primadonna 5 star QB went 6 of 19 for 43 and 2 ints this weekend?
Posted by td01241 on 10/16/26 at 3:32 pm to lewis and herschel
100%
He is, imo, the ultimate living embodiment of UGAs culture and the type of players they’re looking to bring in.
It’s also not like he was some scrub recruit coming out of HS like some people talk about him making it sound like he was. If I am remembering rightly he broke Trevor Lawerence’s hs passing TDs record in Georgia.
He is also a guy who has done something that seems to be extremely rare around the country these days. Show immense growth in his game every new season he gets more experience.
In the game he had to come in against Texas he wasn’t very good but used his natural talent to will us to the win and an SEC championship. Then against ND they absolutely lit him up with blitz after blitz after blitz’s and the game was still too fast for him at the point imo. He played admirably and as well as could be expected but just wasn’t ready to meet the moment.
Last season he was a very clearly improved QB over the one the year prior and was actually OUTSTANDING when throwing against the blitz. Showed he can be very clutch in games against Tennessee and Ole Miss where the offense had to go score for score with them until the 4th. In the playoffs he played well until it seemed like we totally shut the offense down with a lead which is never a good idea just like playing prevent defense is rarely a good idea and we lost in a classic. His biggest flaw last year was his ability to layer the ball in intermediate throws over Lbs or safety’s playing robber or in cover 2.
This season he has been, without exaggeration, the best QB in the country, and while having an extremely talented cast around him outside of Lucky, London, and the RB he was working with very very talented other skill guys but ones with minimal to no experience in SEC play yet. Thanks to his play it’s my opinion he has elevated everyone else in the offense allowing for guys like Taylor, Dandridge, Reddel, and others to emerge as legitimate weapons while getting their feet under them early.
What is most impressive is where I said he was bad last year he has totally flipped the script and become EXCELLENT at layered throws into intermediate passes in all areas of the field. The middle of the field or the seam, WR running deep outs or corners, he is delivering the ball with the perfect amount of touch to get it over the defense and into his guys hands.
Finally he is clearly in complete and total control of this offense and his years of experience in the system is paying off bigly. You can see him on nearly every play identifying the defense pre snap, changing or sliding the protection, and since he is so good at indentifying what the defense is running pre snap he almost always know where is going to be going with the ball before it is even snapped. Examples of this last game are Reddels big play up the seam, and Londons TD up the seam when we were running 4 verts and he identified bama was playing cover 3 and Humphries route would be the one in the vacated zone before the snap even comes. Even when he needs to go through his progressions he processes wayyyyy faster than his contemporaries like Arch.
The pass to ice the game where we came out in 13 personal (which is just an insanely awesome thing to do Bobo) Williams is actually his 3rd read on the play. With the 1st read running a 5 yard dig and the second read being the other TE running a 10 yard option route behind the dig. Williams running a deep corner course is the final read in the progression and gunner gets to him and makes the decision before Williams has even reached the top of his route.
He is so good
He is, imo, the ultimate living embodiment of UGAs culture and the type of players they’re looking to bring in.
It’s also not like he was some scrub recruit coming out of HS like some people talk about him making it sound like he was. If I am remembering rightly he broke Trevor Lawerence’s hs passing TDs record in Georgia.
He is also a guy who has done something that seems to be extremely rare around the country these days. Show immense growth in his game every new season he gets more experience.
In the game he had to come in against Texas he wasn’t very good but used his natural talent to will us to the win and an SEC championship. Then against ND they absolutely lit him up with blitz after blitz after blitz’s and the game was still too fast for him at the point imo. He played admirably and as well as could be expected but just wasn’t ready to meet the moment.
Last season he was a very clearly improved QB over the one the year prior and was actually OUTSTANDING when throwing against the blitz. Showed he can be very clutch in games against Tennessee and Ole Miss where the offense had to go score for score with them until the 4th. In the playoffs he played well until it seemed like we totally shut the offense down with a lead which is never a good idea just like playing prevent defense is rarely a good idea and we lost in a classic. His biggest flaw last year was his ability to layer the ball in intermediate throws over Lbs or safety’s playing robber or in cover 2.
This season he has been, without exaggeration, the best QB in the country, and while having an extremely talented cast around him outside of Lucky, London, and the RB he was working with very very talented other skill guys but ones with minimal to no experience in SEC play yet. Thanks to his play it’s my opinion he has elevated everyone else in the offense allowing for guys like Taylor, Dandridge, Reddel, and others to emerge as legitimate weapons while getting their feet under them early.
What is most impressive is where I said he was bad last year he has totally flipped the script and become EXCELLENT at layered throws into intermediate passes in all areas of the field. The middle of the field or the seam, WR running deep outs or corners, he is delivering the ball with the perfect amount of touch to get it over the defense and into his guys hands.
Finally he is clearly in complete and total control of this offense and his years of experience in the system is paying off bigly. You can see him on nearly every play identifying the defense pre snap, changing or sliding the protection, and since he is so good at indentifying what the defense is running pre snap he almost always know where is going to be going with the ball before it is even snapped. Examples of this last game are Reddels big play up the seam, and Londons TD up the seam when we were running 4 verts and he identified bama was playing cover 3 and Humphries route would be the one in the vacated zone before the snap even comes. Even when he needs to go through his progressions he processes wayyyyy faster than his contemporaries like Arch.
The pass to ice the game where we came out in 13 personal (which is just an insanely awesome thing to do Bobo) Williams is actually his 3rd read on the play. With the 1st read running a 5 yard dig and the second read being the other TE running a 10 yard option route behind the dig. Williams running a deep corner course is the final read in the progression and gunner gets to him and makes the decision before Williams has even reached the top of his route.
He is so good
re: Should Arch transfer next year?
Posted by td01241 on 10/16/26 at 3:13 pm to Diamondawg
:lol:
I was just messing with you. It was actually pretty funny. Not enough to earn a lol IRL but still a solid joke on your part.
Allow me to bestow upon you an upvote as compensation for my perhaps over aggressive posture in my initial reply
:cheers:
I was just messing with you. It was actually pretty funny. Not enough to earn a lol IRL but still a solid joke on your part.
Allow me to bestow upon you an upvote as compensation for my perhaps over aggressive posture in my initial reply
:cheers:
re: Should Arch transfer next year?
Posted by td01241 on 10/16/26 at 2:56 pm to Diamondawg
Nearly every single one his passes idiot, and I’m not a “coach” nor am I particularly overly well versed in these types of things
But I know the basics and a bit more beyond that. It’s very easy to diagnose what the issues with arch’s mechanics are, and it just so happens Stocktons play against Alabama demonstrates how footwork should look like as a QB when throwing so it was an easy example.
You sound a bit upset your team were hailed as world beaters with the next Lamar Jackson at QB until he faced a real defense then went full Mateer and played an absolutely horrible game proving him nor State are ready for prime time.
Haven’t gone back and watched that absurdly putrid performance by him against bama but if I do I assume I would see glaringly obvious mechanical breakdowns by Taylor in that game too.
But I know the basics and a bit more beyond that. It’s very easy to diagnose what the issues with arch’s mechanics are, and it just so happens Stocktons play against Alabama demonstrates how footwork should look like as a QB when throwing so it was an easy example.
You sound a bit upset your team were hailed as world beaters with the next Lamar Jackson at QB until he faced a real defense then went full Mateer and played an absolutely horrible game proving him nor State are ready for prime time.
Haven’t gone back and watched that absurdly putrid performance by him against bama but if I do I assume I would see glaringly obvious mechanical breakdowns by Taylor in that game too.
You mean the black guy who started at UF then went to AZ state then came here as the 4th stringer for one year and left?
Cant remember his name
Cant remember his name
Imo Sark isnt running an offense that is conducive to getting the most out of Arch and playing to his strengths. The side arm stuff is bad but mechanically by far his worst issue imo is his feet. When a QB throws the ball he should have his feet firmly planted on the ground, not on the balls of his feet, not drifting back, etc, and facing in the direction of where he is about to deliver the ball. This is how QBs get accuracy, whereas arm strength comes from a different part of your throwing mechanics.
One of the best examples ive seen of how this is done correctly recently is last weekend Gunner against Alabama. If you go back and watch all 22 passes he threw, nearly ever single one his feet are absolutely perfectly placed for how QBs are taught to play the position and for delivering the ball with total accuracy. It is why he threw some incredible dimes into some insanely tight windows.
But again why isnt Sark designing his offense to play to Archs strengths as a player, and his offensive roster as a whole. Where are the designed QB runs. They should be doing 8-10 of these a game especially since theyre struggling so bad running the ball traditionally.
Why are there SO MANY extremely long developing plays that are usually not blocked well enough to give him the time he needs for these kind of routes to get to where they can break open so he always gets destroyed if he gets the ball out with bad mechanics because he is panicking, or he just gets sacked.
Coleman and Wingo are incredibly talented players. Where is the quick and intermediate stuff with those guys to give Arch easy throws to guys who are more than likely always going to beat their defender on things like slants, hooks, mesh, deep outs.
Everything is attempting to push the ball deep down the field, and while Arch throws an incredible deep ball at times, their offense would be a lot better if they did the 2 things I described above way more, Arch would improve his confidence, and its easier to maintain your mechanics on quicker developing passing concepts where you might have an alert receiver on one side of the field, then Coleman on the other as the far wideout and Wingo beside him in the slot where the progession is just 1, Colemen 2. Wingo instead of designing plays with 4 guys in the progression + a hot route and a check down with someone running idk a flare or whatever the frick out of the RB spot or as a TE
One of the best examples ive seen of how this is done correctly recently is last weekend Gunner against Alabama. If you go back and watch all 22 passes he threw, nearly ever single one his feet are absolutely perfectly placed for how QBs are taught to play the position and for delivering the ball with total accuracy. It is why he threw some incredible dimes into some insanely tight windows.
But again why isnt Sark designing his offense to play to Archs strengths as a player, and his offensive roster as a whole. Where are the designed QB runs. They should be doing 8-10 of these a game especially since theyre struggling so bad running the ball traditionally.
Why are there SO MANY extremely long developing plays that are usually not blocked well enough to give him the time he needs for these kind of routes to get to where they can break open so he always gets destroyed if he gets the ball out with bad mechanics because he is panicking, or he just gets sacked.
Coleman and Wingo are incredibly talented players. Where is the quick and intermediate stuff with those guys to give Arch easy throws to guys who are more than likely always going to beat their defender on things like slants, hooks, mesh, deep outs.
Everything is attempting to push the ball deep down the field, and while Arch throws an incredible deep ball at times, their offense would be a lot better if they did the 2 things I described above way more, Arch would improve his confidence, and its easier to maintain your mechanics on quicker developing passing concepts where you might have an alert receiver on one side of the field, then Coleman on the other as the far wideout and Wingo beside him in the slot where the progession is just 1, Colemen 2. Wingo instead of designing plays with 4 guys in the progression + a hot route and a check down with someone running idk a flare or whatever the frick out of the RB spot or as a TE
I mean youre free to think this way but I can guarantee you that recruits who do are filtered out almost immediately by UGAs staff.
This is almost demonstrably false and we have innumerable examples of why it is in the NIL era. If your goal is to actually make it to the NFL and be good when you get there instead of total garbage it absolutely matters a ton where you choose to play in college, give or take to what degree depending on position. For QBs it might be more important than for any other. If all you care about is making as much money as possible right now, then sure your perspective is fine. You just wont be doing it for UGA, nor do we want you here.
Extremely unlikely. He has never been anything more than meh-average in college and just played one of the worst games ive ever seen a high profile QB play for Oregon against UCLA. Ewers was also just as highly rated and a MUCH BETTER qb in college and was a 7th round pick.
This is pretty much in direct contradiction with all you have said to this point. Do they care about the NFL and solely the NFL, and how well a school can develop them, prepare them, and improve their draft position? Or do they care about making as much money in NIL while in college as possible? You have declared it is somehow both when that isnt really possible.
That is certainly a choice. Again, we dont want these type of people anywhere near our football program even if theyre the next coming of Peyton Manning or Larry Fitzgerald.
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In the long run it really doesn't matter what school you go to. Any team can produce a first round draft pick.
This is almost demonstrably false and we have innumerable examples of why it is in the NIL era. If your goal is to actually make it to the NFL and be good when you get there instead of total garbage it absolutely matters a ton where you choose to play in college, give or take to what degree depending on position. For QBs it might be more important than for any other. If all you care about is making as much money as possible right now, then sure your perspective is fine. You just wont be doing it for UGA, nor do we want you here.
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I'm sure Raiola is crying all the way to the bank and will still be an early round draft pick.
Extremely unlikely. He has never been anything more than meh-average in college and just played one of the worst games ive ever seen a high profile QB play for Oregon against UCLA. Ewers was also just as highly rated and a MUCH BETTER qb in college and was a 7th round pick.
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These guys are only thinking about the NFL
This is pretty much in direct contradiction with all you have said to this point. Do they care about the NFL and solely the NFL, and how well a school can develop them, prepare them, and improve their draft position? Or do they care about making as much money in NIL while in college as possible? You have declared it is somehow both when that isnt really possible.
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If a not so good team makes the best offer...take the money and just enjoy the ride.
That is certainly a choice. Again, we dont want these type of people anywhere near our football program even if theyre the next coming of Peyton Manning or Larry Fitzgerald.
re: America, Bud Light, Cracker Barrel, etc, etc
Posted by td01241 on 10/16/26 at 1:34 pm to Jefferson Dawg
CFB isnt something that can easily be taken down in a fairly quick amount of time relatively speaking like Bud Light and Cracker Barrel was.
They are going to be dismantled over a much longer period of time through the slowly bleeding out from their terrible decisions and the slow erosion over time of the support/money first of the type of people who are most likely to post on places like this, the biggest fans who are most invested. Then that slowly but surely matriculates outward and down to every subset of fans until it will eventually reach what will be the kill shot, normies tuning out.
They are going to be dismantled over a much longer period of time through the slowly bleeding out from their terrible decisions and the slow erosion over time of the support/money first of the type of people who are most likely to post on places like this, the biggest fans who are most invested. Then that slowly but surely matriculates outward and down to every subset of fans until it will eventually reach what will be the kill shot, normies tuning out.
I think UGA prioritizes guys it already has on its roster who they recruit out of HS when it comes to who theyre most willing to be NIL flexible on. Nate Frazier this past off season is a good example, if he was coming out of HS and made demands about money UGA would just drop him from their recruiting board, but since he is coming into his third year starting and has shown to be a great RB at this level they were more willing to work with him.
This is why we arent very active in the transfer portal every year. They are supremely confident in their ability to identify talent out of HS and cultivate it once it gets on campus. Then those guys are the priority for paying them well and making sure they arent poached. The transfer portal is more used by us as a way to plug holes here and there with guys we think are better than the consensus on them is or see potential we can unlock for a player who is having a falling out with his current school. This is what happened with Khalil Barnes and Clemson, who was a pretty good player as a freshmen then his soph and junior seasons regressed and lost playing time. We bring him in and he has been absolutely killing it at Star.
There are a ton of benefits that come with operating your team and roster like this and they mostly are in line with the UGA ethos under Kirby. You get what you earn, the best player will start no matter seniority, etc. It also keeps continuity and collective experience together on your roster as best you can in this era of CFB.
For high school recruits imho we go and make our pitch about why coming to UGA is the best option for them, etc. If theyre a 5 star everyone is after explain we arent going to meet the top spending NIL schools for their pay as a freshman but this reason and this reason, etc is why you should choose UGA for a little less money over them. Then they either accept it or dont and we move on. This is the filter.
This is why we arent very active in the transfer portal every year. They are supremely confident in their ability to identify talent out of HS and cultivate it once it gets on campus. Then those guys are the priority for paying them well and making sure they arent poached. The transfer portal is more used by us as a way to plug holes here and there with guys we think are better than the consensus on them is or see potential we can unlock for a player who is having a falling out with his current school. This is what happened with Khalil Barnes and Clemson, who was a pretty good player as a freshmen then his soph and junior seasons regressed and lost playing time. We bring him in and he has been absolutely killing it at Star.
There are a ton of benefits that come with operating your team and roster like this and they mostly are in line with the UGA ethos under Kirby. You get what you earn, the best player will start no matter seniority, etc. It also keeps continuity and collective experience together on your roster as best you can in this era of CFB.
For high school recruits imho we go and make our pitch about why coming to UGA is the best option for them, etc. If theyre a 5 star everyone is after explain we arent going to meet the top spending NIL schools for their pay as a freshman but this reason and this reason, etc is why you should choose UGA for a little less money over them. Then they either accept it or dont and we move on. This is the filter.
He wont transfer unless he is basically made to transfer because I do not think he will declare for the NFL draft this year, nor should he. He is no where near ready to be an NFL QB, and these days teams have little patience for QBs taken high in the draft that fricking suck.
Just look at Cam Ward. He is absolutely fricking terrible in the NFL but has only played like 20 games total. There are already many many people who either are titans fans and want him gone so after they likely go 0-17 can try again at drafting a QB or commentators/talking heads who think he will be traded. Im not defending Cam Ward he has been absolutely fricking dreadful since day 1, but he shares a lot of the problems Manning is displaying at Texas. He cannot get through his progressions fast enough, and his mechanics are atrocious when made to play inside the pocket. I wouldnt say Mannings mechanics are atrocious but theyre very very inconsistent and at times look horrible.
He should 100% come back for another year of college, but Sark is going to need to be a lot less stubborn and change his offense to fit the people he has and put Manning in the best position to succeed. If he wont do that I dont see him getting much more development out of Arch even with another year so that is the only situation I think a transfer would make sense but only to somewhere youre absolutely positive the staff will ensure you are as ready as you possibly can be for the NFL
Just look at Cam Ward. He is absolutely fricking terrible in the NFL but has only played like 20 games total. There are already many many people who either are titans fans and want him gone so after they likely go 0-17 can try again at drafting a QB or commentators/talking heads who think he will be traded. Im not defending Cam Ward he has been absolutely fricking dreadful since day 1, but he shares a lot of the problems Manning is displaying at Texas. He cannot get through his progressions fast enough, and his mechanics are atrocious when made to play inside the pocket. I wouldnt say Mannings mechanics are atrocious but theyre very very inconsistent and at times look horrible.
He should 100% come back for another year of college, but Sark is going to need to be a lot less stubborn and change his offense to fit the people he has and put Manning in the best position to succeed. If he wont do that I dont see him getting much more development out of Arch even with another year so that is the only situation I think a transfer would make sense but only to somewhere youre absolutely positive the staff will ensure you are as ready as you possibly can be for the NFL
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I'm not saying that our staff didn't think that he displayed potential, and could be a good fit. I'm saying they refuse to get into a bidding war when he started to act like a punk.
:bow: this 100%
They intentionally filter out people who may be top recruits or very talented if they dont think theyll be an excellent culture fit at UGA. Part of that is yeah, youll get paid and all, but thats not really what youre here to do and shouldnt be your primary focus
At the same time they are probably the best in the country at evaluating undervalued high school recruits in the 3 star range, and those guys who we take are always good culture fits as well. One or more of them show up every single season and some become massive stars sometimes while others, very solid contributors. Jordan Davis and Ladd are just two examples of the former, Sacovie this year is an example of the latter.
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